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Oath Keepers: We Urge President Trump to Deploy Active Duty Troops, En Masse, on Mexico Border

Photo: Illegal Alien Caravan of Predominantly Military Aged Males
Flies the Honduran Flag as it Heads To U.S. 

 

We the military and law enforcement of Oath Keepers call on President Trump to deploy infantry and other combat arms troops to the border with Mexico in large enough numbers to secure the full length of the border against all illegal foreign invaders.

The just-announced joint CBP/DOD operation, which will supply military mobility, engineering, medical, and planning support for the Customs and Border Protection (CBP), is a step in the right direction, and may be sufficient to handle the specific mass caravans of illegals, including MS-13 gang members and criminals from the Middle East, that are currently in the news, but it falls far short of what is actually needed to secure the border against the ongoing daily invasion by illegal aliens.  Watch the press conference held on Monday, October 29, here:

We call on President Trump to take decisive action, as the Commander-in-Chief, and deploy not just support personnel, but also active duty combat arms troops, en mass, on our Southern border with Mexico in order to actually seal and secure the entire border and stop the ongoing illegal invasion.

Specifically, we ask President Trump to deploy active duty infantry from both the U.S. Army and Marine Corps; mechanized infantry units; light infantry,  such as the 82nd Airborne, 10th Mountain Division, or USMC FAST Companies; air-mobile light infantry, such as the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault); and our larger special warfare units, such as the 75th Ranger Regiment.

That is what it will take – skilled combat arms boots on the ground – to actually put a stop to the daily infiltration/invasion all along our border by the Mexican drug cartels – many of whom have military training (such as Los Zetas). Those cartels smuggle in tons of drugs in heavily armed “mule trains” (see below video) as well as smuggling in women and children pressed into the cartels’ illicit sex industry slavery, along with all of the other illegal aliens they smuggle in, at a current rate far in excess of the approximately 1,900 who are apprehended by CBP each day. For every one caught, hundreds get through. These violent, militarized cartels are also now taking over small border towns and entire border regions on the U.S. side of the border, just as they did in Mexico (with their infamous offer of “Plata O Plomo” – silver or lead – take their bribe money, or get their bullets).

We are also being invaded by a foreign military force in the form of paramilitary gangs such as Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), who likewise have military training and work hand-in-hand with the cartels, and by jihadist terrorists, including ISIS, who infiltrate through South America, Central America, and then through Mexico.

The current mass caravan heading toward the U.S. does, indeed, contain a large number of young military age males, as is clear from this interview with Jorge Ramos (and note the masked, hooded, MS-13 member throwing gang signs as he walks past):


But that is not some recent phenomena.  Massive numbers of young, fit, military aged males have been infiltrating across our border with Mexico for years, as this video from the Chilton Ranch in Arizona shows:

We need infantry boots on the ground to put a stop to this ongoing mass invasion of predominantly military aged males.  The Border Patrol simply lacks the man-power, the equipment, and the training needed to stop what really amounts to a military invasion of the United States, and has been unable to stop it for many years.   But the U.S. military can get the job done.

As Daniel Greenfield recently noted:

The United States has 14,000 troops in Afghanistan, 39,000 in Japan, 34,805 in Germany, 23,000 in South Korea, and around 5,200 in Iraq. Our military protects the borders of countless nations.

Except our own.

In 1919, we had 18,500 soldiers on the border. “Twice a day every foot of the border line is patrolled by cavalrymen and infantrymen,” the New York Times noted.

It’s time to put U.S. infantry and modern cavalry (such as the 1st Cavalry Division, a combined arms division, out of Ft. Hood, TX), back on the border with Mexico, to once again take up their historic mission, in numbers that will actually get the job done.

As anyone who served in a combat arms unit knows, no barrier of any kind is effective unless it is under direct observation and direct enforcement. This means that even if we had a full wall across the border (which we don’t), we would still need to deploy enough mobile personnel to observe and then effectively interdict and stop incursions.

What will work best best is drones, observation blimps, seismic detectors, etc. that can spot the incursions, but those sightings must be immediately followed up by sufficient numbers of air-mobile helicopter delivered and fast-moving ground vehicle delivered QRFs (Quick Reaction Forces) of infantry to actually interdict and stop/apprehend the invaders, as well as skilled light infantry to deny the cartel scouts their hill-top observation posts (which they use to easily circumvent the scant Border Patrol agents in any infiltration corridor), as well as effective observation and roving military patrols within sight of the Rio Grand. Such active duty combat arms troops can, and likely should, be partnered up with CBP Officers. If the President has to use the military alone in some sectors or for some purposes, such as in large numbers of helicopter delivered QRFs, we believe he has full authority to do so, as a matter of national defense and under the constitutional mandate in Article IV, Section 4 that:

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion.

In addition, the President has long-standing statutory authorization to do so under Title 10, §332. Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority.

Support troops in combination with CBP simply cannot, and will not, get the job done. It takes infantry boots on the ground, on choppers, and in fast moving military vehicles in large numbers to do the necessary physical interdiction and apprehension that will stem, and then turn the tide.

President Trump must take off the kid gloves and put combat-arms troops on the border to stop what is clearly a military invasion.

We urge him to do it now, and by doing so, show himself to be a modern George Washington, who takes lead and does what needs to be done to save his country.

For the Republic,

Oath Keepers

 

PS: We fully understand, and agree with, the duty of we the people as the constitutional militia to also serve on the border to repel this invasion.   But since we no longer have well organized militia made up of all able-bodied citizens in each state, we believe it is necessary for President Trump to use the U.S. military now, immediately, along with calling forth the National Guard, as the “organized militia” into national service, and to then call up We the People, as the “unorganized” militia, into national service and organize us into effective units from each state, and deploy us on the border.   We military and LEO veterans would be more than happy to serve as the first wave of such a revitalized militia, under the direct command of the President, and to then help train, organize, and lead the rest of our fellow citizens in such newly formed militia units under the President’s command.  All he has to do is issue the orders.   We will answer the call.  Will you?

Meanwhile, we would be happy to help any border rancher defend his ranch against cartel invasion.  Ranchers who would like such help are invited to email us at: volunteers@oathkeepers.org.  Please put “Border Ranch” in the subject line.

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Stewart Rhodes

Stewart is the founder and National President of Oath Keepers. He served as a U.S. Army paratrooper until disabled in a rough terrain parachuting accident during a night jump. He is a former firearms instructor, former member of Rep. Ron Paul’s DC staff, and served as a volunteer firefighter in Montana. Stewart previously wrote the monthly Enemy at the Gates column for S.W.A.T. Magazine. Stewart graduated from Yale Law School in 2004, where his paper “Solving the Puzzle of Enemy Combatant Status” won Yale’s Miller prize for best paper on the Bill of Rights. He assisted teaching U.S. military history at Yale, was a Yale Research Scholar, and is writing a book on the dangers of applying the laws of war to the American people.

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49 comments

  1. As patriots, it’s is our duty to help secure and protect the borders of our country. Remember the oath that we all took. I’ll be there. If you call yourself a patriot, then you all should be there with us.

  2. I have been contacting everyone I know personally in an effort to have as many people as possible contact the White house by posting and emailing the following message. “Please contact the White House by phone 1-202-456-1111 and by message via https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ and let the White House know that you back President Trump’s decision to put America first and protect our borders by any means necessary. Please pass this message to everyone you know and encourage them to make the call and send a message on the . gov website. We need our voice heard!”

    OathKeepers:Thank-you for all you do in getting the word out to Patriots.

  3. He should deploy troops _south_ of the border. Leaving them on the north side will not prevent entry.

    He should give the Mexican government a “red line” the caravan, as a group or individually, must not cross. Then, if they won’t enforce it, he should.

    The President has said he will house the illegals in tent cities, rather than do catch-and-release. First. some judge will probably tell the President he must release them; the President should ignore him (and then talk about an out-of-control judiciary and how it should be co-equal to the other two Branches, not arbitrarily superior).

    Second, why spend the money to house/feed them (plus health care, education, probably other things)? Just deploy the troops to _prevent_ entry.

    1. I think we should engage the invaders 100-200 miles SOUTH OF THE BORDER. With line troops Infantry and armor backed up by artillery put them in a kill box, Order them to return to their homes or we will open fire. They keep coming shoot to kill and leave the Mexicans to clean up the mess . Want to bet there won’t be a NEXT convoy. if there is take out their transport first as a hint. If they do not get the message repeat the above action. and keep repeating it until they do.

  4. So what are the troops going to do? How are they going to stop anyone? Can you imagine the fiasco if immigrant women and children lead the group and the troops fired on them? What do you propose as an answer?

    1. The same thing they do all over the world when dealing with non-combatants. And the same thing the Border Patrol/protection has done when dealing with them as well. And if linked up with Border Protection officers, the troops can let the Border Protection handle them.

      1. I ask, because a similar tactic was used at the Bundy Ranch. Women and children were on or near the front line. We can bet the news media will be there in force. I do not beleive they should be allowed to cross the border illegally. But, how do we physically stop them? What if they refuse to stop? Would Americans be able to stomach any deaths of these people at the hands of our troops? Especially if/when it’s splashed across TV non stop for days on end?

        Sure, sending in the troops makes for a great sound bite. Rah, rah, gung ho. Bottom line, though, is what are they going to do? We’d have a great case if they were firing on us. But they won’t. It’ll be a horde of people pushing physically forward. I’m truly hoping there is a workable answer to stop them.

      2. There are some facts that are not known widely about Mexico. A large part of this is due to the difficulty in communication. I lived for almost two years in the Monterrey area of Mexico. I was utterly shocked to discover that Mexicans are actually terrified that the US will invade Mexico. Repelling invasion from our side of the border is proper, appropriate and is required by our constitution that the President carry this out. Despite appearances, Mexicans in general hate this invasion of their own country by these criminals from Central America. If they aid their passage, this puts them as assisting invasion of the USA. That act is essentially a declaration of war against the USA. I see many comments about putting troops south of the border, inside of Mexico. That is in fact the exact invasion and declaration of war against Mexico that they are already afraid of. Right now, they have the exact same problem we have. If they open fire on these caravans, they will fall under the same microscope we will of shooting unarmed civilians. I know Mexicans quite well and I learned to speak Mexican Spanish. I also lived some time in Guatemala. I also, here in the US, lived with and worked with others from countries in Central America. Mexicans share many of our own core values about patriotism to their country, religion and the importance of family. Central Americans DO NOT. I would be fine with all of the illegal Mexicans leaving the country and returning legally. I do not want to corrupt our culture with the cultures from Central America. Period. It is critical that we stop these caravans and other Central Americans from coming here. We already have enough of our own citizens trying to rob our freedom and create tyranny here. Closing our border is “easy” enough compared to the problems we have to deal with here. Amnesty seemed like a good try years ago. It failed. The President is acting to fulfill his requirements. The true burden now lies with Congress to fix the system. I am still waiting for them to get with the program.

    2. Innocent ? Maybe they didn’t get the memo ? Maybe our snipers should target the meanest, ugliest, rabble rousing ones amongst them and the rest will get the message real quick. Under the circumstances, the US Military should tell the stand down Mexican elite that they are setting up a 5 to 20 mile militarized buffer zone on their side of the border “temporarily”, to deal with the current situation, since they don’t seem to be able to handle it. And hint to them that they got some really nice looking oil wells and silver mines that we might like to appropriate “temporarily”., to pay for this policing action. And aint it a damn shame that we got suckered into sending our troops all over the world for no good reason. It’s almost like someone planned it that way.

    3. They are all part of invasion and if the women choose to be upfront then that is there choice. If we are not willing to defend our border like we defend say the South Korean border then we lose. Another solution is to arrest Soros freeze all his money then go after the NGO”s.

  5. We have an opportunity here to really push for the revitalization of “the Militia of the several States”.
    Perhaps this organization can begin a letter writing campaign to the president alerting him to his duty and the law that he is required “to take care *** be faithfully executed”.
    I am well past the age that would require participation in Militia. However, I’ve written my governor for such a position in accordance with State law, and I would encourage others to take such a first step.
    I would also like to point out that the Congress has no authority to create an “unorganized” militia. To my mind, “unorganized” is nothing more than non-existent, or simply fodder for body bags.

      1. I’m thrilled that this organization is finally “working on” the revitalization of Militia. I have written the president on his authority in this area. As I previously stated, I also contacted both governors of NJ, the leadership of the legislature by mail, and e-mailed every state legislator on the law regarding Militia. I would like to assist in the effort.
        What I can do is this. I recently found out that someone I know has the presidents ear, or so he claims. I will contact him and see what I can develop, and I will do it with your permission, noting the fact that I am an Oath Keeper, and that the organization wants to extend a hand on this most vital issue.

  6. “But they’re just seeking asylum.” If so, where are all the Women, Children, Elderly? Every Photo and Video I have seen shows the caravans consisting 80% – 90% of young (military aged) men. Wouldn’t asylum migration include at least 75% Women, Children, Elderly? “The population of the exodus was 600,000 men, excluding women and children. This would give us a grand total “head count” of between 1.5-2.5 million Hebrews who left Egypt”
    “But they’re just seeking employment.” And if they are allowed to do so, what happens to our Low Unemployment rate? And how much of our Tax Dollars will be spent to support them until they do become Productive?
    “We must be compassionate”. Sorry Bleeding Hearts, we do see these caravans as an impending Invasion (of Division size) which must be repelled. And this does not even include the Thousands Invading every month. You are welcome to donate your funds to any number of ‘foreign aid’ organizations, but first consider those US Citizens who are struggling and homeless.

  7. If the military cannot be used to protect our borders from an invasion, what excuse is there for their existence?
    What excuse do the Republican’s in Congress have for not fixing our moronic asylum laws?

  8. “… the constitutional mandate in Article IV, Section 4 that:

    The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion.”

    That is true, but you’re forgetting the “who” that was/is listed within the US Constitution in Article 1 was left out of that equation. It is critical for our constitutional republic to which all who take the Oath are bound to, that the document itself is followed.

    That does not mean to pick and choose from that document, it means that Oath takers are REQUIRED to follow all of that document. What was left out, why not bring the military into the border dispute, why is it more likely that to do so will fulfill exactly what those who are working so hard for so many decades to destroy our nation from within want, a “police state”, “military rule”, those who will, are trained to, “just do their jobs”, “just follow orders” and follow what military commands, not what the US Constitution REQUIRES as is happening today. Look at the condition of our nation the further from the US Constitution those who serve within our governments, particularly the enforcement agencies, domestic and military get.

    Why is it that those who can LAWFULLY comprise the Militia (trained as the Congress requires of the military and knowledgeable of the Constitutions) can go without governmental requirement except that the states involved, or their OWN state feels that one of the states involved in the border problem can send to the boprders to correct the unconstitutional unLawfullness occurring there? Because the Militia is NOT under governmental control at any time except when called into state or federal service by the Congress. The American people can, but only those who are actually trained as the military is congressionally required to be trained would be a Lawful constitutional Militia to stop invasions. No one has to call them out, ask Dr. Vieira, the PEOPLE have the right to defend themselves, their property, their city/state/nation.
    That is exactly what our framers warned against (military acting unconstitutionally within our borders). At this time in OUR history for the first time since we became the USA we have a police state BECAUSE those required to take and KEEP the Oath does not know what it requires of them, we have militarized police enforcing Color of Law within our borders, being used against our nation from within; and military sent to foreign nations, AGAINST the US Constitution, to invade them – criminal actions on the part of those who serve, but they do so IGNORANCE mostly. Unknowingly they (LE and Military serving) assist the “creatures of the swamp” in destroying our nation from within. Do NOT allow yourself to be used against our Constitutional Republic from within.
    Thomas Jefferson: “Our peculiar security is in the possession of a written Constitution…”.
    James Madison: “Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government”.
    An editorial on Gage’s proclamation stressed that an armed populace must keep government
    in check: “The opposing an arbitrary measure, or resisting an illegal force, is no more
    rebellion than to refuse obedience to a highway-man who demands your purse, or to fight a
    wild beast, that came to devour you. It is morally lawful, in all limited governments, to resist
    that force that wants political power, from the petty constable to the king…. THEY ARE REBELS WHO ARM AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION, NOT THEY WHO DEFEND IT BY ARMS.” “A Freeman,” PA. EVENING POST, June 27, 1775, at 2. [Vol. 7:2]

    US Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11, The Congress shall have the Power: “To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water”.

    When it assigns the power to declare War to those who SERVE WITHIN our Congress, it is forbidding any other who serves within our government elsewhere to do so, forbids them to send Americans, contracted, etc to war in our name using our money.

    Clause 12 specifies that there shall be no military beyond that of two years. The Militia of each state is charged with our nations defense here within the USA until and unless the congress has declared war and a military is raised:

    “To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years”.

    War cannot lawfully be “declared” against a tactic such as the “war against terror” or the “war against drugs”; both are not wars and not even the congress can declare a war against a tactic.

    *War defined: ‘Open and declared conflict between the armed forces of two or more states or nations’. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/war

    Clause 12 was put in as a lawfully assigned duty of congress because, as James Madison, the Father of the US Constitution warned: “No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare”.

    The money that the congress has illegally spent beyond the lawfully allowed time of two years for the support of a “standing military” was/and still is a misappropriation of funds (misappropriation n. the intentional, illegal use of the property or funds of another person for one’s own use or other unauthorized purpose, particularly by a public official…), a felony, a crime against the American people.

    So, if it is NOT the military who is to be used to stop invasions, who is it that those who serve within our governments are REQUIRED in writing to use? WHO?

    Clause 15: “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel invasions.“

    There it is in black and white, go read it for yourself. When the Militia cannot handle the invasions, THEN, AND ONLY THEN, is the military to be called forth, as it has then gone beyond invasions into actual WAR brought into our nation. Then, and only then unless the Congress declares war or the Militia is being used, the person who serves as the US President becomes the Commander in Chief.

    Thomas Jefferson, 1st inaugural, explained that: “a well-disciplined militia” is “our best reliance in peace and for the first moments of war, till regulars may relieve them” and also a guarantee of “the supremacy of the civil over the military authority; [and] economy in the public expense.”

    Before you say that the Militia cannot handle it, as the invaders may have weapons of war, again this is constitutionally addressed.

    Clause 16: “To provide for organizing, arming and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress”.

    When those who serve within our governments sell, trade, gift, etc weapons of war to our own law enforcement and other government agencies, to foreign nations, to foreign entities, they are BREAKING THEIR OATHS AND THE SUPREME CONTRACT THAT THEY SERVE UNDER AND ARE OATH BOUND TO. What is to be done with those weapons of war is in writing, but the swamp creatures do NOT want the people armed and trained in those arms.

    Tench Coxe, Delegate to the Constitutional Convention of 1787: “Who are the militia? are they not ourselves. Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. THEIR SWORDS, AND EVERY OTHER TERRIBLE IMPLEMENT OF THE SOLDIER, ARE THE BIRTH-RIGHT OF AN AMERICAN… THE UNLIMITED POWER OF THE SWORD IS NOT IN THE HANDS OF EITHER THE FEDERAL OR STATE GOVERNMENTS BUT, WHERE I TRUST IN GOD IT WILL EVER REMAIN, IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE.”

    Each state’s Militia is made up of “We the People” protecting our own interests, homes, states, nation, and enforcing our governments. The Militia has as its constitutionally assigned duties to:
    — Enforce the US Constitution (supreme Law) and each state’s Constitution (highest Law),
    — Enforce and keep the “Laws of the Union” (which are constitutional laws ONLY),
    — Protect the country against all enemies both domestic and foreign, and
    — “to suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.

    The US Constitution guarantees to each state its own “Republican form of government”. It is every state’s Militia that is the ONLY Constitutionally assigned force to “counter Invasions” and “Domestic Violence” within our nation.

    Who are the Militia, and why is it that ONLY the Militia can keep our nation free? The US Constitution REQUIRES that those who serve within the Militia that can be used for the above named duties be trained as the Congress requires the military to be trained, that is veterans. [Which is why vets are treated so abominably, and put on the possible terrorist watch lists because they can enforce the US Constitution, their own state’s Constitution – I believe.] It cannot be those serving in the military because they then would (in a way) have two masters to obey. They would have their commanding officers and the Constitutions – US and state. The Militia has One master, the Constitutions – state and US.

    Richard Henry Lee: “A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves …”

    George Mason, Co-author of the Second Amendment: “I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”

    Justice Story, Associate Justice, Supreme Court wrote: “The next amendment is: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”.
    “The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them”.

    This was done to stop a police state from ever being able to form in our nation to be used AGAINST the American people. This was done to keep our people and our nation from endless wars that always destroy the nation from within, destroys it financially, etc. Those who serve within the military only rise up the ranks because they do what the MILITARY leaders want, NOT what the US Constitution requires, and they ARE two different things. One needs constant wars to keep power, money, prestige, etc. The other keeps the interests of the PEOPLE and this constitutional republic first. IF those who serve within the military REFUSE unLawful orders because they are not constitutional, they are imprisoned, etc. We still have those who are unLawfully militarily imprisoned because of the admitted TRAITORS Panetta and Dempsey, and those imprisoned refused to work with the UN, NATO against our constitutional republic. Their (Panetta and Dempsey) treason against our nation using the US military was OPENLY declared upon the senate floor. If it is taken down from the net you can still watch it. That was right after Obama, the presidential impersonator, openly declared his TREASON in a open and public letter to Boehner, where he said something along the lines of “U.S. military forces commenced operations to assist an international effort authorized by the United Nations (U.N.) Security Council .” Obama took authorization for military action from U.N. than from Congress, and did so from the beginning of his impersonation of a US President. But others who served, are currently serving, also do the same.

    Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 28: “ there exists a right of self-defense against a tyrannical government, and it includes the people with their own arms”
    “If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government… if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers… The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair… The people, without exaggeration, may be said to be entirely the masters of their own fate… If their rights are invaded… How wise will it be in them by cherishing the union to preserve to themselves an advantage which can never be too highly prized! (being armed)“

    Patrick Henry: “If you have given up your militia, and Congress shall refuse to arm them, you have lost every thing. Your existence will be precarious, because you depend on others, whose interests are not affected by your infelicity.”

    Thomas Cooley: “The right is general. It may be supposed from the phraseology of this provision that the right to keep and bear arms was only guaranteed to the militia; but this would be an interpretation not warranted by the intent. The militia, as has been explained elsewhere, consists of those persons who, under the law, are liable to the performance of military duty, and are officered and enrolled for service when called upon… If the right were limited to those enrolled, the purpose of the guarantee might be defeated altogether by the action or the neglect to act of the government it was meant to hold in check. The meaning of the provision undoubtedly is, that the people, from whom the militia must be taken, shall have the right to keep and bear arms, and they need no permission or regulation of law for that purpose”.

    Samuel Adams: “Under every government the last resort of the people, is an appeal to the sword; whether to defend themselves against the open attacks of a foreign enemy, or to check the insidious encroachments of domestic foes. Whenever a people … entrust the defence of their country to a regular, standing army, composed of mercenaries, the power of that country will remain under the direction of the most wealthy citizens.”

    (MER’CENARY, adjective [Latin mercenarius, from merces, reward, wages, mercor, to guy.]
    1. Venal; that may be hired; actuated by the hope of reward; moved by the love of money; as a mercenary prince or judge.
    2. Hired; purchased by money; as mercenary services; mercenary soldiers.
    http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/Mercenary)

    Noah Webster, explaining that the “well regulated militia” is the whole body of the people and NOT “a military force, at the command of Congress”: “A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.”

    KEEP YOUR OATH TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE US CONSTITUTION.

    God Bless All and Stay Safe!

    If there were never intended to be action to defend the Constitution from those who are domestically attempting to destroy its power and authority, why would each Oath require it of those who take the Oaths?

    Chief Tecumseh: “When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.”

    1. Cal, I don’t think it’s unconstitutional for the President to use the military on the border, along with the militia, and neither does Dr. Vieira. I know, because I called him and spoke with him at length about it. The U.S. Army has been used on our borders for centuries, to repel invaders, such as the expedition against Poncho Villa and his men, who raided across our border, along with the earlier campaigns and expeditions against Geronimo, who did the same by hopping back and forth between Arizona and Mexico. He would base out of Mexico and raid into the U.S.

      Just because the Constitution provides for calling forth the militia to repel invasions doesn’t mean the President cannot also order the standing Army to do the same. It would be absurd to argue that an invading military cannot be opposed by the Army and Navy that the Constitution allows Congress to raise and pay for, and instead has to only use the militia to repel such an invasion. I certainly hope you are not suggesting that if China, for example, invaded the U.S. tomorrow that it is somehow unconstitutional for the President to order our Army, Navy, and other armed forces to stop that invasion. An invasion can be stopped by both the militia and by the military.

      President Trump certainly should work to revitalize the militia, and he can do so now, under the banner of using that revitalized militia to repel this invasion of illegals. And he should. But he should also use the military.

      Getting down to brass tacks, what we are facing is an internal coup by the Marxist left in this nation, along with the globalist elites, who seek to CONTINUE to flood this country with illegal aliens from the third world (and not just Mexico and Central America – as the CBP Commissioner said last night in the press conference, they have caught illegals from 100 nations coming into the U.S.).

      The marxist controlled left in the U.S. wants to use that mass of illegals as “new voters” for the Democratic Party to illegally, illegitimately gain a permanent lock on political power. It is not much different than if they used communist Chinese troops to attain the same end. The only difference is in the perception of the public. The reality underneath is the same This is a military/political invasion being orchestrated and assisted by enemies within our gates who see this as a way to attain their own internal coup.

      The cartels, MS-13, and the jihadists are deadly military enemies of this nation, our people, and our Constitution. So are the illegals who are being indoctrinated into hard-left ideology by Marxists in the Third World (such as in El Salvador, Honduras, and Mexico) before being sent here, and further indoctrinated by Marxists in the U.S. once they arrive – hence all the examples of them burning the American flag, and their demonstrated desire to fly the flag of Mexico, Honduras, etc rather than our flag even after they arrive. They are NOT assimilating because they are being indoctrinated to not assimilate. That means they will tend to vote left when they vote, illegally, in our elections. The U.S. left knows. this. If those illegals voted mostly Republican you’d see the left demanding they be shot on the border! LOL.

      That is an invasion every bit as real as what is happening in Europe and the UK, with non-assimilating Muslims from the Third World “migrating” en mass and changing the cultural, political, and religious character of the host nations. The result is obvious.

      So that is the invasion element.

      And that is being used to pull off a coup inside the U.S. by the Marxists who now dominate the Democratic Party. They are not interested in having to win fair elections. They are only interested in attaining naked power, with the veneer of legitimacy that comes from “winning” rigged elections using the “new voters” from the Third World. They do that through “legal” immigration from Third World nations and through illegal immigration that they later “make legal” through amnesty or that they later simply allow to vote, as is now happening not just in CA but anywhere the Democrats can get away with it.

      This is a coup by the left. It must be stopped, and stopped now. And it must be stopped by the President using both. the militia and the military. The survival of this Republic is at stake.

      Stewart

      1. “Just because the Constitution provides for calling forth the militia to repel invasions doesn’t mean the President cannot also order the standing Army to do the same. It would be absurd to argue that an invading military cannot be opposed by the Army and Navy that the Constitution allows Congress to raise and pay for, and instead has to only use the militia to repel such an invasion.”

        Actually, we are forbidden to keep a “standing military”, nor are they to be called forth until and unless those serving within the Congress (House of Reps and the Senate) declares war. Just because historically this unconstitutional action has been taken does not make it constitutional. That is one of the reasons why the American people were required to be trained and armed, with military arms available for use. George Washington even suggested that just in case those who serve within our Congress would not do their duty supplying military arms to the American people so that they could do their duty with them IF needed the people should MANUFACTURE their own military weapons, yet look at what happens when a person just is armed today. Over and over again IF one would read the framers, and those who participated in the creation of our government you will see that a military must be called up, not permanent, and that having a standing army alone is unLawful. WHY did our forefathers/framers separate from GB? Standing armies everywhere for one, and they took abuse for decades before they said “enough”.

        James Madison: “Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied: and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals, engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.

        George Washington: “And that the said CONSTITUTION BE NEVER CONSTRUED TO AUTHORIZE CONGRESS TO infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; OR TO RAISE STANDING ARMIES, UNLESS NECESSARY FOR THE DEFENSE OF THE UNITED STATES, OR OF SOME ONE OR MORE OF THEM; or to prevent the people from petitioning, in a peaceable and orderly manner, the federal legislature, for a redress of grievances; or to subject the people to unreasonable searches and seizures of their persons, papers or possessions.” (Debates of the Massachusetts Convention of February 6, 1788; Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 1788 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850))

        Tench Coxe, ‘Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution’, in the Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789, on the Second Amendment where he asserts that it’s the people with arms, who serve as the ultimate check on government: “As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, AND AS THE MILITARY FORCES WHICH MUST BE OCCASIONALLY RAISED TO DEFEND OUR COUNTRY, MIGHT PERVERT THEIR POWER to the injury of their fellow-citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms”.

        Keywords “OCCASIONALLY RAISED”, meaning NOT permanent.

        Here is GW’s suggestion, because those who serve within our government have NO LAWFUL DELEGATED AUTHORITY over us making, owning, etc weapons) that we make our own military weapons because those who serve within our governments may not always be trustworthy, and may use the enforcement arm of the government against the American people as is made clear in these comments.

        George Washington: “A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.”

        US Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11: “To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water”.

        Clause 12: “To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years”.

        “What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to PREVENT THE ESTABLISMENT OF A STANDING ARMY, the bane of liberty….” Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, floor debate over the 2nd Amendment, I Annals of Congress

        Thomas Jefferson, 1st inaugural, explained that: “a well-disciplined militia” is “our best reliance in peace AND FOR THE FIRST MOMENTS OF WAR, till regulars may relieve them” and also a guarantee of “the supremacy of the civil over the military authority; [and] economy in the public expense.”

        Justice Story, Associate Justice, Supreme Court wrote: “The next amendment is: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”.
        “The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them”.

        Tench Coxe, Delegate to the Constitutional Convention of 1787: “Who are the militia? are they not ourselves. Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.”

        WE are also getting used to having foreign aid, foreign allies, the UNLAWFUL and unconstitutional TSA at airports, bus & train stations; accustomed to being stopped while traveling and being questioned, etc which is patently against the supreme Law of this land, and is criminal in action against the American people. We have also become somewhat conditioned to SWAT teams breaking and entering unLawfully and unconstitutionally into peoples home, where people are even murdered with this criminal action is performed – and no consequences; we are even conditioned over these long decades to let those in government take our property and they have NO constitutional Lawful authority to do so; then we are in endless wars called up by those who have NO LAWFUL authority to do so, again criminal actions, etc; add to that small list (there is much, much more) that a foreign corrupt “agency” UNLAWFULLY and UNCONSTITUTIONALLY create our “money” which is the exact opposite of that delegated authority; etc. Ever really wonder what is going on with our country? WE allow unLawful, unconstitutional actions on the part of those WHO SERVE WITHIN our governments, and those people at all levels are NOT our government but are put there – elected, hired, contracted, etc – to perform certain DELEGATED written duties.

        George Washington: “It is our true policy to steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world. The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible.”

        Thomas Jefferson: “I have ever deemed it fundamental for the United States never to take active part in the quarrels of Europe. Their political interests are entirely distinct from ours. Their mutual jealousies, their balance of power, their complicated alliances, their forms and principles of government, are all foreign to us. They are nations of eternal war. “

        John Quincy Adams: “America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She well knows that by enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standards of freedom.”

        Thomas Jefferson: “Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.”

        Alexander Hamilton: “Foreign influence is truly the Grecian horse to a republic. We cannot be too careful to exclude its influence.”

        Henry Clay: “Far better is it for ourselves, for Hungary, and for the cause of liberty, that … avoiding the distant wars of Europe, we should keep our lamp burning brightly on the western shore, as a light to all nations, than to hazard its utter extinction among the ruins of fallen or falling republics in Europe.”

        John Quincy Adams: “Wherever the standard of freedom and independence has been or shall be unfurled there will America’s hearts, her benedictions, and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher of the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.”

        Alexander Hamilton: “Every act of a delegated authority, contrary to the tenor of the commission under which it is exercised, is void. No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this, would be to affirm, that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers, may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid.”

        John Jay, first Senate, first Chief Justice of the United States: “No power on earth has a right to take our property from us without our consent.”

        James Madison: “If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”

        Thomas Jefferson, in the Resolutions says “that a federal “law” that violates the Constitution is no law at all. It is “void and of no effect.” (Patriot Act, NDA, etc, etc, etc, etc.

        James Madison: “The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature … the executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war.”

        George Washington: “The constitution vests the power of declaring war in Congress; therefore no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after they shall have deliberated upon the subject and authorized such a measure.”

        James Madison: “In time of actual war, great discretionary powers are constantly given to the Executive Magistrate. Constant apprehension of War, has the same tendency to render the head too large for the body. A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”

        Sam Adams explained that every colonist had the inherent right to certain things under the laws of nature: “Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: first, a right to life; secondly, to liberty; thirdly, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can.”

        J. Reuben Clark: “God provided that in this land of liberty, our political allegiance shall run not to individuals, that is, to government officials, no matter how great or how small they may be. Under His plan our allegiance and the only allegiance we owe as citizens or denizens of the United States, runs to our inspired Constitution which God himself set up. So runs the oath of office of those who participate in government. A certain loyalty we do owe to the office which a man holds, but even here we owe just by reason of our citizenship, no loyalty to the man himself. In other countries it is to the individual that allegiance runs. This principle of allegiance to the Constitution is basic to our freedom. It is one of the great principles that distinguishes this “land of liberty” from other countries”.

        Keeping the Oath is critical to our nation surviving this period of time. It really is up to those who take the Oath to know what they are ALLOWED to do by the supreme contract, supreme LAW, and be willing to stand for it as is required. Admittedly, at this time our legitimate government is so far gone by domestic enemies and traitors that to KEEP one’s Oath is a dangerous action. I try to show where the source of my ideas come from, and this is a very small list of why my “opinions” are the way they are concerning this action.

        I believe that this whole “illegal immigrant”, INVADERS and bringing the military in is as it was in Boston, if not used as “the” move against Americans, another way to get the public used to having military involvement into their lives.

        Do you not think that following the US Constitution as it is written, and with the understanding of it as it was at the time of its creation important to keeping our constitutional republic?

        “I certainly hope you are not suggesting that if China, for example, invaded the U.S. tomorrow that it is somehow unconstitutional for the President to order our Army, Navy, and other armed forces to stop that invasion. An invasion can be stopped by both the militia and by the military. ”

        China’s invasion of that sort would be immediately obvious as a military move against this nation, a different aspect is being portrayed here with this invasion is it not?

        “But he should also use the military. ”

        Yes, IF really needed because the Militia was not up to defending our borders, or the people whose lands are a part of those borders unable to defend them, then of course the military should be brought up to stop an armed invasion. At this time it is supposedly (and I believe it about as much as you seem to) about those seeking asylum here. Instead it should be the American people themselves, as the Militia, refusing them entrance and sending them back. My understanding is that Mexico has offered them asylum, which if refused them makes it obvious that it is an invasion (which is what I have called it from the first mention of it).

        “Getting down to brass tacks, what we are facing is an internal coup by the Marxist left in this nation”

        Which is treason and terrorism, is it not? With those traitors serving within our governments even calling out for their “followers” to commit violence, etc? [Also, off topic, but not really if one thinks about it. ALL who serve within our governments are required to take the Oath to support and defend the US Constitution, so how can those who serve within our governments that are working openly (Pelosi, Bernie .S., etc, etc, etc) serve within our governments when they are working AGAINST our legitimate government? How is it that we continue to not keep the Oaths by charging them with the crimes they have committed, at least2 felonies, Perjury that I count?]

        Treason – Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution of the United States provides:
        Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

        Three elements are required for an offense to constitute treason [Also Treason, Section 2385 and Misprision of Treason , Section 2382)]:
        — an obligation of allegiance to the legal order,
        — intent to go against the legal order, and then
        — action to violate that obligation.

        28 C.F.R. Section 0.85 Terrorism is defined as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”.
        Section 802 (Title 18), Domestic Terrorism: involving “acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;” which “appear to be intended–to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (or) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion”.

        Add Sedition to that list also. Sedition basically is: ”the criminal act of revolting against an established authority, usually in the form of treason or defamation of a government.”

        I agree wholeheartedly with all else you said, and that action MUST be taken to stop the invasion. Our difference is how fast you seem to be in turning our nation over to the military, yet our “military” was turned over to be a tool for the UN long ago, and the Congress has refused (unLawfully and breaking not only their Oath of Office, but the contract that the serve under) their duties which is in writing for the positions they occupy. They try to give away powers that they do NOT have, because the power/authority was NEVER delegated to a person, but was instead delegated to the branch and/or to a named in writing office within a branch. They have no authority beyond that found in writing within the Constitution, and we are the enforcers of that constitution, and we have neglected OUR duty for decades.

        Dr. Vieira: Therefore, no decision of the Supreme Court can be taken at face value as an infallible authority as to what the Constitution means. Rather, the Constitution determines whether a decision of the Supreme Court is correct or incorrect. And in the final analysis only WE THE PEOPLE can render the Constitution’s meaning certain, because WE THE PEOPLE “ordain[ed] and establish[ed] th[e] Constitution” in the first place; and (as the Supreme Court itself has admitted) “[t]he power to enact carries with it final authority to declare the meaning of the legislation”. Compare the Preamble to the Constitution with Propper v. Clark, 337 U.S. 472, 484 (1949). “

        What needs to be done at this time is immigration stopped for all. That leaves invasions. That way we can clean up this mess we have of all the domestic enemies and traitors to our nation, to the American people.

        We also need to bring our elections back to constitutional instead of political parties running down our nation from within.

        BTW, many do not realize that the Declaration of Independence says that the American colonies of Great Britain had become “free and independent states” — separate states, or that the U.S. Constitution itself also refers constantly to the states, but never to a “nation”.

        Throughout history the military/police have ALWAYS been used against their own people, which is why the founders decided upon the Militia. You recognized what went down in Boston, can you not see that this is a possible military coup in the making? Do not think that I am talking about those who actually implement orders, but because they are trained and pressure implemented that they “just follow orders” and “just do their jobs” and were NOT educated in the US Constitution and what the Oath requires of them is just how it can happen. They will not even know what they are implementing until it is too far gone for them to back out as has happened within the 20th century so many times. THAT is what I think this is all working to. Just consider my arguments as to WHY we must follow the US Constitution exactly as it is written and the meaning of it when written if we are NOT to lose our legitimate government and everything we all have. Because if this coup happens by any, everything that all owns will NO LONGER BE THEIRS because it is theirs ONLY under THIS constitutional republic. If honor and loyalty to the US Constitution will not motivate them to learn the Whys I have mentioned here, then maybe self preservation of all they have earned, now have, may assist them in gathering the interest needed to keep our legitimate government.

        Why Not Bring Charges against those who have openly worked against our legitimate government and the American people? Why not use OUR constitutional tool of Grand Jury Investigations as I know you must have members here that can do this properly to bring the proof for the charges beyond what is already been openly out there and ignored?

        Grand Jury – “The grand jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right. In fact the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people”.
        “Thus, citizens have the unbridled right to empanel their own grand juries and present “True Bills” of indictment to a court, which is then required to commence a criminal proceeding. Our Founding Fathers presciently thereby created a “buffer” the people may rely upon for justice, when public officials, including judges, criminally violate the law.” (Misbehavior, “Good Behaviour” requirement)
        “The grand jury is an institution separate from the courts, over whose functioning the courts do not preside, we think it clear that, as a general matter at least, no such “supervisory” judicial authority exists. The “common law” of the Fifth Amendment demands a traditional functioning grand jury.”
        “Although the grand jury normally operates, of course, in the courthouse and under judicial auspices, its institutional relationship with the judicial branch has traditionally been, so to speak, at arm’s length. Judges’ direct involvement in the functioning of the grand jury has generally been confined to the constitutive one of calling the grand jurors together and administering their oaths of office. The grand jury’s functional independence from the judicial branch is evident both in the scope of its power to investigate criminal wrongdoing, and in the manner in which that power is exercised.”
        “The grand jury ‘can investigate merely on suspicion that the law is being violated, or even because it wants assurance that it is not.’ It need not identify the offender it suspects, or even “the precise nature of the offense” it is investigating. The grand jury requires no authorization from its constituting court to initiate an investigation, nor does the prosecutor require leave of court to seek a grand jury indictment. And in its day-to-day functioning, the grand jury generally operates without the interference of a presiding judge. It swears in its own witnesses and deliberates in total secrecy.”
        “Recognizing this tradition of independence, we have said the 5th Amendment’s constitutional guarantee presupposes an investigative body ‘acting independently of either prosecuting attorney or judge”
        “Given the grand jury’s operational separateness from its constituting court, it should come as no surprise that we have been reluctant to invoke the judicial supervisory power as a basis for prescribing modes of grand jury procedure. Over the years, we have received many requests to exercise supervision over the grand jury’s evidence-taking process, but we have refused them all. “it would run counter to the whole history of the grand jury institution” to permit an indictment to be challenged “on the ground that there was incompetent or inadequate evidence before the grand jury.” (Nor would it be lawful of them to do so.) Justice Antonin Scalia writing for the majority said In the Supreme Court case of United States v. Williams, 112 S.Ct. 1735, 504 U.S. 36, 118 L.Ed.2d 352 (1992)

        God Bless and be Safe All.

        We agree on the problem and what must be done, we just disagree on what must be used LAWFULLY and CONSTITUTIONALLY to do what must be done.

      2. From a practical standpoint of both law, and strategy “The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary…” – Title 10, Section 333
        If we had an organized, and well regulated Militia, the President could call them to the area of conflict as Militia would be the most rapid to deploy. He would simultaneously issue orders to the military command to join forces with Militia. We do not have Militia so in order for him to properly execute his office, he must call forth the military.
        At this point its foolish to bicker over the subject. What I would suggest is polling the membership to find out who is on board.
        I’m in! Old bones and all.

      3. Stewart, I stood with you at Bundy Ranch. All I need is direction and I will once again join Oathkeepers on the border to stand for the USA. Johnny

      4. Will be brief. I would take that one step further Stewart.
        The Globalists you mentioned have used up our resources to secure resources in other countries. Human and Natural. Not only have they pushed our Regular Organized Military into their Security, they have galvanized those very governments against our Good Folk of the USA.

        Not only is this Military intervention warranted at the border, It Is The Primary Duty of Government for OUR Sovereignty. I know that’s essentially what you just said, but I think a simpler explanation is warranted, so that those who read it, will hopefully take all 3 posts here and read the Constitution to grasp what we are forwarding.

    2. I have to chime in here. We protect our borders. Period. We have on the coastal borders the USCG, the USN, and the USAF, US Customs and US border patrol, local law, and local civilians (property owners) are all in play. Yet this apprehension over a land border seems to be so controversially chewed on that it is now nauseatingly irritating. A land border is equal to a water border and vice versa. PERIOD!!!!

      I flew missions both along land and coastal borders. We as a nation spend a huge effort protecting our borders from many “types”. An invader is an invader whether it be a drug smuggler, a Soviet (now Russian) sub, bomber, other, or Chinese war ship, C-172, a swimmer, balloon, yacht, motor home……matters not the method of delivery. Parsing the mission because it’s the Mexico border is simply political bullshit. (expletives et al)

      Have a nice day.

      P.S. 18 + million veterans, mostly capable of helping protect our nations borders in concert with all the above. No excuse to have a crock of shit caravan of mostly young military age jerks threaten us. Look at the pictures. Look at the intel.

    3. James Madison, “the Father of the Constitution,” was the president throughout the war of 1812.

      Artillerymen of the 54th Coast Artillery Regiment, manned a 155GPF mobile gun from a beach in the Marin Headlands. This African American outfit was quartered at the barracks overlooking Rodeo Beach.

      In 1890, construction of Fort Casey, the last fort of its kind began on the bluffs west of Coupeville. As part of a three-fort defense system, the fort was built by the U.S. Army to protect the entrance to Puget Sound. Four hundred troops manned the fort.

      Camp Hayden military reservation at Tongue Point was part of the modernization of harbor defenses with anti-motor torpedo boats, seacoast armament and anti-aircraft installations.

      There 212 such fortifications manned by USA military at one time or another.

      Sure seems we have a solid history of not just militia, but organized USA military defending our borders from Canadians to Mexicans to any and all who would harm us.

      Cheers!

  9. Pres Trump MUST STOP
    ‘CARAVAN 1 INVASION’
    South of the border
    Or many more will follow.
    They are MX’s “immigrants” ..problem.
    Do not allow them to become ours.
    They are like an intruder in your home.
    Uninvited. Told to Go Away!
    But they beat down your door.
    Assault. Pillage. And Rape.
    Defiling your beautifully planned life.

    1. The 14th amendment says they must be born here under jurisdiction of the U.S. If the words “under jurisdiction” had no meaning or affect, it would simply say, anyone born here is a citizen. If a person is born here, to parents who are here illegally, they are not legally under U.S. jurisdiction. Therefore, anchor babies are not the anchors they are thought to be.

    2. Yes, by the proper Amendment process…It would be a great civics lesson for US citizens. It’s time we start doing it correctly!

      1. I completely agree we must support the President on ending the 14th Amendment “birth right citizenship” fiasco. It’s an issue we can’t allow to get placed on the back burner. I doubt that anyone who is a member of our organization would question this – especially since the law hasn’t been applied correctly. In the event there is, and to drive the information home by putting things in perspective – let’s take a look at the financial impact on hard-working US Taxpayers.
        Over the past several years. “each year” the number of criminal illegal invader births in the Los Angeles Metro Area equaled more than the total number of US Citizen births in 14 States plus the District of Columbia. The total cost to US Taxpayers for the above referenced births $2.4 BILLION. (Yes! Billion – with a “B”)
        Criminal Illegal Invader births of anchor babies make up 11 percent — or about 198,000 births — of all births that are paid for by American taxpayers. Legal immigrant births make up 13 percent — or 231,000 births — of all births that are paid for by taxpayers.
        American taxpayers in total pay about $5.3 BILLION annually for the births of criminal illegal invaders/legal immigrants, whether they are legally or illegally in the U.S.
        There are 4.5 million anchor babies in the U.S. under the age of 18, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). This estimate does not include the potentially millions of anchor babies who are older than 18-years-old. (I imagine Billions leaking out of the government that should be assisting our Veterans, supporting our Military, rebuilding our infrastructure – so many uses for the greater good of all American Citizens – but, NOT this!! This must be stopped – by any means necessary……)
        ***Source: Center For Immigration Studies

        1. Interesting Illumination Sherri.
          Woke up this morning, and was using the phone to set clocks when I thought, “ah heck let’s check the news.” Low and behold a story about the $200 Million, with an M that will be wasted on the Military being used on the border. They of course mentioned the massive budget of $700 Billion with a B, that it will be squandered from. Your comment got my brain a brewing and it hit me.

          $700 Billion is in fact 700 times 1,000 Million dollars. To say that $200 million is over reach for protecting our own border is beyond ludicrous, it’s borderline mental illness. In other words, it’s 200,000,000/ 700,000,000,000 = 0.0002857 or 0.029% of our military budget to perform their PRIMARY FUNCTION.

          Thanks for the post, you put things in perspective. The legacy costs associated with inaction would haunt us for generations!

        2. “I completely agree we must support the President on ending the 14th Amendment “birth right citizenship” fiasco”

          What the 14th Amendment actually says ..

          Amendment XIV, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

          What terms apply?
          — All persons born or naturalized in the United States, [<– notice that the punctuation used is a comma, meaning that the terms of what is needed continues]
          — and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
          are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

          Both are needed before the baby is a citizen – born or naturalized here in the USA, AND subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

          1. What [it] actually says..
            “…– especially since the law hasn’t been applied correctly. ” [< – notice the rest of my comment [<-notice the punctuation used is an Ellipsis which is a series of dots (typically three, such as "…") that usually indicates an intentional omission of a word, sentence, or whole section from a text without altering its original meaning. Thanks, but I'm clear on the 14th along with the Constitution and the whole Jackpot of Amendments. Since we're both Oath Keepers – and presumably on the same team – I really don't want to come across as busting your balls. But, why the lecture? There was no need for "me" to delve into the specifics of the 14th Amendment. It had already been covered in a previous post so there was no need to rehash it. Regards…..

  10. Whatever troops are deployed will be humiliated by this invading force. Our troops will be forced to hand out water bottles to them and to build tent facilities for them. Under no circumstance will our troops open fire to prevent the invasion. This is a political problem, not a military problem. The military option is not available to us.
    If our elected elite had any intention of stemming the continuous and ongoing invasion of illegals, they would end anchor babies, stop remittances to Mexico, enforce labor requirements, stop welfare benefits to illegals and their offspring, stop catch and release, end chain migration, etc…
    The point is, our elected elite could easily end this problem using already existing laws if they had any desire to do so. They are the cause of it, not the solution.

    1. Which is exactly why President Trump should do an end-run around them by using his powers as Commander-in-Chief to secure the border using the military, the national guard, and us, We the People, as the militia, called into national service. And that last one is the most important – the President can revitalize the militia, made up of the people, by calling us all into service and then organizing us into units based in each state (in our state of residence), and training and equipping us using DOD assets to do it. He CAN do that. So why shouldn’t he do that?

      And a revitalized militia made up of the patriotic Americans still loyal to the Constitution will prove mighty useful in the days ahead in dealing with the elites and the deep state. Don’t you think?

      Stewart

      1. The real problem is that constitutionally the President is NOT the Commander in Chief all the time. Nor was the Office of US President given the authority to call forth the Militia, that is a legislative power.

        US Constitution, Article 2, Section 2: The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, WHEN CALLED INTO THE ACTUAL SERVICE OF THE UNITED STATES; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment. (caps mine, and that is a comma after “of the Militia of the several States”)…

        Office of the US President [duties]: Section 1: The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows: …

        Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

        Section 2: The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

        He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

        The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

        Section 3: He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information on the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

        Article 1, Section 1: All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

        Section 3: …
        The Senate shall chuse their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the Absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States.

        The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. …

        Section 4: …
        The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day

        Section 5: Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.

        Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.

        Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal….

        Section 7: All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.

        Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. …

        Section 8.

        The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

        To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

        To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

        To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

        To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

        To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

        To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

        To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

        To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

        To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

        To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

        To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

        To provide and maintain a Navy;

        To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

        TO PROVIDE FOR CALLING FORTH THE MILITIA TO EXECUTE THE LAWS OF THE UNION, SUPPRESS INSURRECTIONS AND REPEL INVASIONS;

        To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

        To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards and other needful Buildings;–And

        To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

        But the PEOPLE and the other states can fall forth the Militia. So if a person has property on the boundary they can ask for the Militia to assist in DEFENDING their own property and lives. The other states that are constitutional can hold those serving within the California government accountable for the COMPACT between the states because they are breaking it and committing felonies, Perjury, etc, etc. Those states can send the Militia to DEFEND the borders and charge those now serving within the Calif gov with the MANY crimes they have committed. Remember contract law is very strong, and the compact between the states is a contract.

      2. I can see a situation arising where the military deploys to secure the border; Antifa, LaRaza, and other open borders activists gather to harass, intimidate, and engage the military; And patriots responding to engage the activists.

      3. Question Mr Rhodes, why hasn’t the leadership of OK decided to organize a mission to support and assist CBP and local LEO on the border?

    2. The US has non-lethal weapons we can use against the invaders, before other methods would become necessary. There are directed energy weapons that use microwaves which cause a burning sensation on the skin. There are also noise weapons that cause extreme discomfort that are used to dispel rowdy crowds. And for those in the know, there is the “Voice To Skull” weapon, aka the “Voice of God” device. Check out the “Jesse Ventura Interviews Dr. Robert Duncan” clip on the net for details on that one.

  11. How many people realize that around a 100 years agao, there was an invasion of Mexicans into the border of the U.S. and they were met with deadly force by order of the then sitting President. I am not for killing innocent women or children, but somehow this invasion must be circumvented. Why do we call it the National Guard if we are not utikizing this armed force to guard OUR borders?

    I believe we must cut the head off the snake. Cut off the funders, and you can virtually minimalize the current band of invaders over night. We all know who is funding this. Its not that complicated to rectify.

    Furthermore, round up all who are here illegally, and send them packing, but dont seoarate children from parents. That would be immoral.

    Lastly, restore the local Militia! Keep in mind though, there are communist-socialists in nearly every one of our 300 plus Counties in the U.S. Be careful which politician or Sheriff is respondible for leading it!!!

  12. Leonidas had the same political problem as we do today. He went to the border. The future will either laugh at us or know we are the home of the brave.

  13. Send our numbers, they are many. I dare any to intercede. Park my armed ass in the front row! Show the world we are not leaving our doors open for invasions, no matter how seemingly insignificant.

    These cowards headed north hiding behind the skirts of women and babies haven’t felt our nationalism, our esprit de corps, our will, our faith. They are the foolish fodder of globalist elite manipulation.

    “Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay its price.” ― Sun Tzu …be it your time, your wealth or your life.

  14. This is a well organized, well financed and clandestine “INVASION” of a sovereign nation by communists and the far left..
    To meet it with anything other than a large military force capable of lethal force that can successfully “REPEL AN INVASION” is dimwitted and foolhardy.

    “Silence in the face of tyranny, is your consent to that tyranny”
    Get off your kiester and speak out against this organized un-American leftist tyranny!

  15. The final say/solution/action always resides with the people. Not only are we within our rights to resist a tyrannous government, we are within our rights to fill in where government fails in it’s duties and responsibilities. The people need no approval or authorization to do what is right. It is government that needs the people’s permission and approval to act within the constraints of the constitution. Government is service to the people, not authority over the people.

    Millions of Americans, for decades have been either brainwashed into accepting government as authority, or they have been simply complacent and apathetic in their responsibility to jealousy safe guard our rights as charged to all generations by our founders and guaranteed/enshrined in the constitution.

    I realize Oath Keepers is spread thin with so many disasters and communities to help, and other missions. Educational movies such as “Molon Labe” and “Good Guys with Guns” are great tools for bringing people along, but I feel too often, It’s much like preaching to the choir. I would like to see an education mission by Oath Keepers, utilizing those with great teaching skills and certifications, to initiate classes regarding the constitution, with references and study materials. Aside from our founder’s writings, there are some great books, like “The 5,000 Year Leap” by W. Leon Skousen.

    I know the Oath Keeper site has an education section for such materials, but we need actual classes offered to the people, nationwide. Not everyone is going to find the Oath Keeper website or utilize the materials as they should. People enjoy learning where they can discuss and interact with others. This is exactly how I came to better know and understand the constitution. A study group was reading and discussing a book, meeting weekly. It set me on fire. Then I found Oath Keepers in 2010 and my world has been ablaze ever since.

    Sorry for going off topic, but I feel that bringing the constitutional education back to the people will extinguish the Marxist fire. Other actions are fine, but this battle has multiple fronts, and education is one of them.

  16. Obummer Insane Obstructor would have given these folks domino’s pizza, free bus fair, free housing, and welcome groups at the American border. Now we have a commander in chief who cares more about the safety of American citizens and the importance of border protection at America’s border. Illegal immigrant, refuges, their women and children……….
    Are they more important than our women and children……?
    Are they more important than our disabled veterans……..?
    Are they more important than our senior citizens…….?
    Are they more important than our homeless folks living in tents……?
    NO
    American citizens first……
    Unfortunate American citizens first……
    Legislation is, and has been passed regarding immigration policy for decades……
    Protect the border of a Nation as you would protect your house.

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