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‘Totally Reasonable’ Gun-Grabber Police Chief Has Huge ‘But’

‘Totally Reasonable’ Gun-Grabber Police Chief Has Huge ‘But’
Chief Cervera thinks he and his appointed enforcer cronies defining your rights is “totally reasonable.” (Virgina Beach Police Department)

“Virginia Beach’s Police Chief calls for ‘reasonable’ gun law reforms,” WTKR News 3 Norfolk reported.

“All the recommendations that we’re asking for are totally reasonable,” Chief Jim Cervera assured viewers. He’d returned from a Major Cities Chiefs’ Association meeting, where “the group updated its firearms violence policy. ”

So what do the politically-appointed urban enforcers call “reasonable”?

“Adopted by a vote of Chiefs at their meeting, the new policy statement includes calling on Congress to:

  • Adopt a Universal Background Check for all gun sales and transfers;
  • Expand screening for prohibited buyers to include persons with violent mental health history;
  • Seek “Red Flag” measures to prevent guns from reaching persons who threaten violence and murder; and
  • Urge legislation that permits court orders barring gun purchases in domestic violence cases

In other words, end private sales, erode due process and impose prior restraints.

That’s in addition to “legislative positions” that include banning citizens from keeping firearms suitable for militia purposes and prohibiting them from bearing arms where the government dictates it is forbidden.

You know, “reasonable” stuff.

“I’m very passionate about it because I’ve seen the carnage weapons cause on the street,” Cervera proclaimed, attributing properties to inanimate objects simply not found in reality.

“Cervera says he believes in the second amendment, but… ” the report elaborates.

When you consider the Second Amendment mandates “shall not be infringed,” that’s an awful big “but” the chief is sporting there.  It’s so huge, some would consider it monstrous and deformed.

“My message to them is let’s take this emotion out of the conversation, ” Chief Cervera concluded after poking the bear. “Let’s look at what is rational. ”

Yeah, Chief, swear an oath to uphold the Constitution and then tell Americans you want to eviscerate a fundamental right you have no moral claim to, and punish any who disobey you.  Meanwhile, you and yours will be the “Only Ones” keeping and bearing the very arms the Founders identified as the birthright of the people.

That ought to take the emotion out of the conversation.  That expectation seems “totally reasonable” and “rational.”

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39 comments

  1. Firearms Owners- America’s Last Resort Against Government Tyranny And Foreign Invasion
    Legal law abiding American firearms owners have about 300 million guns and an estimated several billion rounds of ammunition. We are not to blame for American violence. Blame excess and illegal immigration, multiculturalism, political correctness, bans on God and Jesus, excessive TV violence, and excessive welfare all provided by Democrats. The consequences and results were predictable and now Democrats are demanding restrictions or elimination of the 2nd Amendment right to possess and carry firearms.
    The militia referred to in the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights in the U.S Constitution is the American Public. The numerous statements made by America ‘s founding fathers are clear that they believed the public should be armed to prevent foreign invasion or government tyranny as a last resort. They would have referred to a group such as the National Guard as a “Select Militia”. Stating that a militia should be well regulated is not a requirement that removes the right to exist from a militia if it ceases to be well regulated as is the current status. Some misinformed individuals are of the opinion that the National Guard has replaced the militia. The National Guard cannot be the militia referenced by America’s founding fathers because they are under the direct control of the President and Congress. If the National Guard were all deployed overseas much of the security necessary to protect the American homeland would rest upon the shoulders of police officers and the 70 million American firearms owners in the Citizens Militia, five million of which are NRA (National Rifle Association) members. So if you are 16 years old or more you are part of the militia based upon the perspective of America’s founding fathers although it originally applied only to males.
    Some argue that since only muzzle loading single shot firearms were available in 1791 when the Bill of Rights became part of the U.S. Constitution, that the 2nd Amendment does not protect modern semi-automatic firearms. If this flawed line of thinking was correct it would mean that the 1st Amendment right of freedom of speech and the press does not protect telephones, TV, radio, internet, fax machines, typewriters, computers, or modern high speed printing presses since they had not been invented in 1791.
    Guns are not the problem. The problem is hearts without God, homes without discipline, schools without prayer, and courts without justice.
    James W. King
    Albany Georgia

    1. I agree with you in most everything said. However, there are a few corrections I would suggest: 1) The National Guard is state owned military organization under control of the Governor unless “nationalized” by presidential order. 2) “Well regulated” as understood at the time means “well trained” in the use of firearms.

      I would further add that the single shot, muzzle loading firearms used by the “militia” of the colonies were far superior to the muskets used by British regulars. They could shoot further and more accurately. They were the ultimate “state of the art” weapons of the time. We therefore should have no infringements on our rights to own current “state of the art” military weaponry with which to confront tyrants and tyrannical governments. Any thing less than state of the art weaponry puts the true militia at a huge disadvantage.

      1. Excellent point . And yes the comment by JWK covers all the bases in general very well indeed !

        Never forget Finicum ! Killed in action January 26, 2016. Murdered by his own government. While at the same time “Black lives matters” was at the WH being praised and given permission to do far worse crimes than Finicum ever did. Ferguson, Baltimore , St Louis and other cities burned and citizens attacked and even a few killed as the FBI stood by and watched ! It should be obvious who the real criminals are and are NOT ! Shortly there after it all morphed into violence against Trump supporters sanctioned by the DEM/DSA and that still exist today in various forms, in spades. The crimes and bad acts of the DOJ and FBI are still ongoing today and have fosterd many states to do the same, Oregon being a prime example of complicit acts and deliberate dereliction . Exactly where was G Walden when Finicum was murdered ? Was he shouting from the roof tops of the points I am making clearly and correctly ? The duplicity and double standards of how Finicum and the Bundy crew were treated versus BLM and eventually Antifa and others who are still coddled and not prosecuted as they should be and could be ?

        http://www.downtoearththinking.com/the-nevada-kangaroo-court-of-injustice.html this explains it all in detail and I keep it up for years now for that reason as an example and for clarity for those not up to speed !

        We are in fact engaged in a war for this nation and our society as envisioned by the founders ! So far it has been a war of words and for minds largely. For me the Finicum murder and illegal detainment and fake prosecution of the Bundy crew was a serious changing point. It defines the most basic realities of what we face going forward ! There is no room for more lies and distortions, only truth of the most basic principles , ethics and human decency.

      2. Just a relevant reminder:
        “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.”
        That congressional permission is why they can be federalized.

        Technically state level militias were supposed to be private with the support and guidance of the state and federal governments (I’m simplifying):
        “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

        To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;”
        “Disciplining” we now call “training”.

      3. My sentiments as well. Let’s remember that it is governments that engage in massive huma carnage…100″s of millions, while they divert the conversation to the miniscule number of civilian shootings.

        Remember that our government has billions on rounds if ammo to use in full auto weapons to use not on invading armies but to maintain the continuance if their empire building.

    2. Couldn’t have said it any better than James W. King. I’m Dave Haskins and I approve his message.

    3. The first one on the list always amazes me and it is repeated ad nauseum, incorrectly and falsely !

      “Adopt a Universal Background Check for all gun sales and transfers”

      Background checks have been in affect for decades and all are national via the FBI system. So why do the politicos and fools like this chief keep repeating this obfuscation as if it does not already exist ? Because they realize the masses are stupid and will buy into this false paradigm , so they use it for ammunition for their cause and purpose which is to disarm the populace. I see this on many outlets and venues and the pundits rarely answer or refute it correctly either, so it gets repeated as if we do not have serious BG checks already and have had for many years now !

      Just another example of how easily people are manipulated here in USA today.

    4. Amen James King.

      Wake me up when clueless Americans recognize “a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism” and honor their duty to “pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor” to thwart said tyrants.

  2. Gun control laws do not stop a determined fanatic from obtaining firearms and committing mass murders of the type that occurred in Las Vegas . The only thing that can stop such an individual or individuals are law abiding citizens with carry permits, police, or special swat teams with firearms. The organizer of this mass country music event did not have adequate security. A privately financed security swat team should have been employed to provide security with sniper rifle ability to quickly neutralize the shooter. Schools in America do not have adequate security along with movie theatres and indeed almost all public places and events. Gun Free Zones are a magnet for fanatics because they expect no resistance from someone who is present and armed. I raised and educated 7 children and school security was always a concern to me. I tried to talk to several school principals about my concern. Basically their answer was “we don’t get many visitors”. Well “DUH” it only takes one to cause mayhem. I provided a professional course of firearms training to both my teenage sons and daughters. I encourage women to train and carry a handgun with a legal carry permit.
    In 1989 in Albany Georgia my wife saved her life and that of my 9 month old son by having a licensed carry permit and a quickly available pistol. A would be rapist tried to abduct her. He fled when she pulled the pistol. That night he abducted an unarmed woman and cut her throat “ear to ear” after raping her.
    Criminals, fanatics, and the mentally deranged do not obey laws. Liberals always seem to think passing some new gun control law is the answer. It is not because it only affects law abiding citizens. Has the Drug War stopped people from getting drugs? NO. Did Prohibition 1919-1933 stop people from getting alcohol? NO.
    If “Gun Free Zones” were effective and obeyed then using the same logic America could put up “Military Free Country” signs and then shut down and disband America’s army, marines, air force, and navy and not expect to be invaded. Of course America would be invaded and of course shootings at schools and other public gathering events will continue unless adequate security is provided. Only a “Good” man (or woman) with a gun can stop a “Bad Man” with a gun.
    James W. King
    NRA Endowment Member
    Albany Georgia

  3. For some reason Ammoland censored my comment about this guy last weekend, but I will say it here; If you are concerned about this one police chief, you had better look deeply at the various “Police Associations” that they pay to lobby against our rights.

  4. Here is ANOTHER C.O.P.Chief of Police) who is working against our legitimate government – knowingly or unknowingly. Since he took the required Oath, or was supposed to, he was/is also REQUIRED to know what the US Constitution becasue he is required to “Support and Defend” BEFORE the orders of any superiors, and before the duties of the position he is occupying.

    Support: Furnishing funds or means for maintenance; to maintain; to provide for; to enable to continue; to carry on. To vindicate, to maintain, to defend, to uphold with aid or countenance. To provide a means of livelihood. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/support

    Defend – To prohibit or forbid. To deny. To contest and endeavor to defeat a claimor demand made against one in a court of justice. To oppose, repel, or resist. In covenants of warranty in deeds, it means to protect, to maintain or keep secure, to guaranty, to agree to indemnify.
    http://thelawdictionary.org/defend/#ixzz4NNnomOcl
    to promote the interests or cause of; to uphold or defend as valid or right; to hold up or serve as a foundation or prop for; to keep (something) going http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/support

    INFRINGE, verb transitive infrinj’. [Latin infringo; in and frango, to break. See Break.]
    1. To break, as contracts; to violate, either positively by contravention, or negatively by non-fulfillment or neglect of performance. A prince or a private person infringes an agreement or covenant by neglecting to perform its conditions, as well as by doing what is stipulated not to be done.
    2. To break; to violate; to transgress; to neglect to fulfill or obey; as, to infringe a law.
    3. To destroy or hinder; as, to infringe efficacy. [Little used.]

    Second Amendment of the United States Constitution: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” (<– Notice that three letter word "not", as in "not infringed")

    Richard Henry Lee, 1788, Initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate which passed the Bill of Rights: "Whereas, to preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them; nor does it follow from this, that all promiscuously must go into actual service on every occasion."

    In my lifetime we have gone from this in 1985

    Plummer vs. State: “You may go to the extreme of taking an officers life if he is committing an unlawful arrest.”

    This decision was upheld (Plummer vs. State) by the Supreme Court in: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529 where the Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”

    To the police state that now occupies our nation. Keep your Oath, and it will be difficult, but every time it is broken, it is one more hit our nation takes. When it falls, and go read real history, if you as military or LE were USED as force against our nation, they will have no choice but to destroy your because you will feel betrayed when they take away everything you have, when they treat you like they will treat those they do let live.

    You and I, even IF YOU do NOT stand for the US Constitution but stand with them against our nation, we will NOT be allowed to live. Not just because you were dumb enough to do what they said when the real LAW is in writing for you to know, and it totally is over and above , before any statute created. But because they know what you had before, and what you will expect to keep, and that cannot be allowed, so you will then be a traitor to them like you were to your nation, your legitimate government. A now win for you if you "Just follow orders' and "just do your jobs" instead of KEEPING the required Oath.

    MILI'TIA, noun [Latin from miles, a soldier; Gr. war, to fight, combat, contention. The primary sense of fighting is to strive, struggle, drive, or to strike, to beat, Eng. moil, Latin molior; Heb. to labor or toil.] The body of soldiers in a state enrolled for discipline, but not engaged in actual service except in emergencies; as distinguished from regular troops, whose sole occupation is war or military service. The militia of a country are the able bodied men organized into companies, regiments and brigades, with officers of all grades, and required by law to attend military exercises on certain days only, but at other times left to pursue their usual occupations.

    Hope these definitions from their time assists those, including this COP who needs a few lessons in and about our constitutional republic and the Oath, his duties to both.

    1. You stated it absolutely correct. I live in Idaho, and moved here from Washington State 8 years ago. I am a Vietnam Vet, and we even saw what happens when military bases demand that the soldiers “turn in their guns” because they are “On Base”, and I am ex-USAF. We here in Idaho stand together and have each others “6”. I am also a AmLegion, VVA and VFW officer as well as a Ride Captain for the Patriot Guard Riders. We believe and support the moto “Don’t Tread on Us”!

  5. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”. Hey chief, you pos, what part of “unalienable” to you not understand? Another word for it is, in·al·ien·a·ble
    [inˈālēənəb(ə)l]

    ADJECTIVE
    unable to be taken away from or given away by the possessor.
    “freedom of religion, the most inalienable of all human rights”

    Your a moron of the highest order…

  6. Traitors like this sheriff always forget conveniently what our 2nd amendment is for as to protect us from people like him who crap on the oaths they took and know little of what our bill of rights is. The supreme court has upheld the 2nd amendment but there is no shortage of traitors who are willing to erase our freedoms. He needs to be fired or step down.

  7. The word reasonable is not part of the 2 amendment. These constant infringements will continue until we put a stop to it

    1. I agree peewee. I think the problem is when folks get the part about pledging “our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor. With the stroke of a pen the Republicans’ NDAA destroyed our Bill of Rights. Not a shot was fired. That was 7-1/2 years ago.

  8. The Chief and all his co-horts seem to not understand that THEY are the very ones the 2nd Amendment was written about. Their authority and power over citizens can and does result in tyranny. What they have really voted for is the establishment of “data bases” which will eventually lead to gun confiscation. They “chip” away at citizen rights one small piece at a time and say “that is a small price to pay for security”. There is no security! We are responsible for our own safety and we must have our neighbors back. A frog placed in boiling water will jump out immediately, but if placed in cool water with the heat raised “one small degree at a time” will boil to death. This is exactly what has been occurring in the U.S. for the last 60 years. Enough is enough!

  9. If Fedgov can usurp 2A by creating the National Guard, can it usurp 1A by creating the Ministry of Truth?

  10. All their points only affect law abiding citizens. One thing no one ever mentions how they will stop the sales of guns on the black market. This is where criminals can buy any type of gun they want.

  11. Laws? What a laugh. They do not have enough intelligence to know that their gun laws WILL NOT work on anyone but the honest people. They very people they have nothing to fear from. The criminals just have one big laugh when new laws are passed. They could care less how many laws are passed. The best thing to do is to let everyone exercise their right to conceal carry. That way, they can protect themselves where ever they are. Instead of cowering in a corner and waiting for the bullet to rip through them. Some of these anal brains get a swelled head when they become an officer. Or get in office. They think they have all the power. That they can tell us how to live. Someday the public will be pushed too far. Then these fools will be apologizing their butts off and think that will fix everything. That it will keep them from being prosecuted. No way. We WILL lock your butts up. You will be punished for acting against the American people. Better think twice.

    1. MAGA, talk is cheap. Where were you on New Year’s Eve 2011 when your Bill of Rights was destroyed by the Republicans’ NDAA?

  12. One of the (many) things with which I take issue, when I hear law-enforcement suggesting such things, is the unfortunate fact that the law-enforcement community itself would be decimated if it, as well, were subject to the same “domestic violence” and “red-flag” standards.

    Anyone who knows me, knows that the very last thing anyone can legitimately claim about me, is that I’m anti-cop. Nothing could be farther than the truth. Reality, however, cares not about upon whom it imposes itself. That reality happens to be that the rate of spouse-abuse / domestic abuse is frighteningly high in the law-enforcement community. The same is true of anger issues and depression, including tendencies toward suicide…. you know…. those “red flag” behaviors….

    I could continue by reminding everyone of that national statistic that shows licensed concealed carry holders are approximately one seventh as likely to be convicted of a violent crime as a law-enforcement member, but that information would probably conjure notions of animosity where, I assure you, none exists. It’s just another sad “reality”. The same “reality” where none of those proposed policies would have any (positive) impact on society, or the perceived problem those policies purport to address.

  13. I have a few thoughts about this guy. First, it’s HIS JOB to keep his town safe for law abiding citizens, but he is obviously NOT doing that or he wouldn’t be trying to keep his job by blaming and violating the rights of the law abiding – he’d be tracking down and arresting the lawbreakers. I have family in VA and Newport News is generally referred to in derogatory terms due to the crime levels. Maybe he should be working on correcting that issue instead of actively trying to make things easier for criminals?

    Second, I keep a mental ‘enemies list’ just in case things get that bad. I don’t live near there but if I did he would certainly be on it. And I’d be trying to organize a protest on his front lawn too.

  14. Has this person even read the legal document known as the U. S. Constitution and its associated legal and binding document known as the Bill of Rights, which shall NOTbe infringed. I wonder

  15. I live in a small rural town with 6 full time and 2 part time police officers. “Off the record”, they have soul searched what they would do if ordered to confiscate weapons. Let’s just say that ,word of gun raids would accidentally leak out to the residents. We will leave it at that.

  16. I’m going to do my hit and run again….. to me it’s simple…… The oath of office is to the Constitution and only to the Constitution….. not to a poitical party ……. so, when a person goes against their oath they have committed an act of Tyranny…….(going against our Constitution) ……. nowhere in the Second Amendment does it say the right of the militia to keep and bear arms… It says the right of the people!… And nowhere In small parentheses does it say at the government’s discretion! It’s amazing to me how many elected officials take the oath and to them it’s just a “formality” for the position! If chief cervaga happens to see this…. go “£@&# yourself” ……….

  17. “When you consider the Second Amendment mandates “shall not be infringed,” that’s an awful big “but” the chief is sporting there. It’s so huge, some would consider it monstrous and deformed.”

    Chief try adding the rest of the words- THE RIGHT of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed. As bad as you hate it you technically have no right to do anything about it. That right Existed long before this government of the US was even formed

  18. I will repeat what I believe, and what I think all patriotic Americans should believe. No law/regulation/rule/decree that even barely infringes on our right to keep and bear arms applies to me. Any such edicts by any level of government are both immoral and illegal according to God and our American Constitution. By the way, according to the very words of our founders, the 2nd Amendment to our Constitution does NOT give us the right to keep and bear arms; God gives us that right and it is only enumerated as a God-given right in the Constitution. So, based on the above, just let me know when the shooting starts and I am ready, willing, and able.

  19. Universal background check is code for: A national firearms registry. A dangerous government is in fear of a citizenry
    capable of resisting their control.

  20. The lowest point in my 30-year career as a police officer was watching police in New Orleans follow their mayors order to confiscate guns out of the homes of law abiding citizens. Just the thought of that one old lady who had a film crew in her house with her, holding an unloaded old .38 special pistol with chamber open being tackeled by an officer, who had no legal authority to enter her home, nor seize her legal firearm from her, made me physically ill. Instead of focusing their resources on street thugs and gang members shooting up New Orleans, they focused on home owners who had stock piled and decided to wait it out. The irony of the whole gun confiscation debacle was that I worked the compound in San Antonio Tx that was set up to receive people coming out of New Orleans. When the first bus load of people being shipped out of New Orleans to different cities arrived in San Antonio TX, one of our LT’s entered the bus and gave the people on it a one time amnesty offer, saying if they had anything illegal on them to leave it on the bus, because once they left the bus if anything was found on them that was illegal they would be arrested. Not to be politically incorrect, but every male on that first bus was a thug or gang banger with a criminal history, So they leave the bus, we begin searching it, and whatta ya know, besides all the illegal drugs, and about 31K in mud soaked money, we found 13 handguns, with about half of them coming back stolen from NOPD. So that is about as clear an example I can give to the old saying, when you make guns illegal, only criminals will have them, as the bad guys didn’t seem to have any problem at all keeping their handguns. It was then I vowed that I would not blindly follow orders, and from then on I questioned every order given that I thought might cross the vow I took. My first time to honor this occured with an open carry protester and Starbucks. He was sitting outside with others at a Starbucks, and his AR15 was leaning against the table he was sitting at. Starbucks called, so I had diffused the situation by telling him since he was on private property Starbucks had the right to have him leave, and he was complying, but that was not good enough for the Sgt who arrived. He saw the Ar15 leaning against the table and ordered me to write him a ticket for disorderly conduct. The only problem is the statute read that he had to be brandishing the firearm in a menacing manner, common sense dictated that if this guy didn’t even have the gun in his hand at the time I was ordered to write a misdemeanor citation against him, how could he be brandishing it in a menacing manner? I pointed this out to the Sgt., but was ordered to write it anyhow. So I followed his order, and wrote the citation, however I did not put my name under arresting officer line, but put the Sgt’s, I then handed the citation to the Sgt to sign. Well he gave me a you SOB look, and told me to change arresting officers name to mine, and sign it. At this point I advised the Sgt I had followed his order as far as I could, but at this point I could not comply, as he was giving me an unlawful order, and I requested a Lt. make the scene. He snatched the citation book from my hand, signed it, and ordered me to return to the station. That cost me 7 days of unpaid leave.
    Final point, I wish someone would set the record straight that organizations like fraternal order of police chiefs, that gun grabbers like to spout off are in support of gun restrictions, are not the same as police supporting stricter gun laws, as the members are just politicians with badges. People would know this if media asked rank and file.

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