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Donald Trump Proposes Guarding Border with the Military

by Charlie Spiering   3 Apr 2018

President Donald Trump said he is currently having discussions in his administration to deploy military resources on the southern border.

Making his remarks during a lunch meeting at the White House with the presidents of Baltic nations, as Gen. James Mattis sat beside him at the table, Trump said, “I’ve been speaking with Gen. Mattis. We’re going to be doing things militarily,” adding, “Until we can have a wall and proper security, we’re going to be guarding our border with the military.”

The president did not detail specific plans for policing the border but appeared eager to make it happen after Democrats stalled progress on his long-promised border wall.

“That’s a big step,” Trump said. “We really haven’t done that before, certainly not very much before.”

Trump confirmed in an afternoon press conference on Tuesday that he does intend to use military force to secure the border.

“We are preparing to have the military to secure our border between Mexico and the United States,” Trump said when reporters questioned him for more details. He said he would be meeting with Mattis and other security officials to discuss the issue soon.

The omnibus spending deal included less than $1.6 billion for border structures but an impressive $700 billion for the Pentagon in FY2018.


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  1. One more step away from the US Constitution, one step closer to using the US Military on American soil, remember Boston?

    WHO does the US Constitution place the authority of keeping the borders of the states free from invasions?

    The PATRIOT Act’s “crowning jewel” is what we now know as the Department of Homeland Security. What most Americans do not understand is that the DHS was directly modeled after Heinrich Himmler’s RSHA, where they created a system that was incorporating all Nazi police departments under the control of what they called the Department of National Security. The Department of Homeland Security was also known as the Reichssicherheitshauptamt.

    Hitler: “What luck for rulers that people do not think.”

    It is the Militia has as its constitutionally assigned duties to:
    — Enforce the US Constitution and each state’s Constitution,
    — Enforce and keep the “Laws of the Union” (which are constitutional laws ONLY),
    — Protect the country against all enemies both domestic and foreign, and
    — “to suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”;

    US Constitution Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15: “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel invasions.“

    It is made VERY clear here that it is NOT the military.

    Throughout history it is/was the military that is ALWAYS used against their own people, and the idiots who serve within it that “just follow orders” and “just do their jobs” that allow and enforce so that democide (death by government) can be performed. The Oath makes it every Oath takers PERSONAL responsibility to say “NO” to unlawful orders, and to do that one has to at least know the US Constitution and their own state’s Constitution, start with the Bill of Rights. Understand that it can happen here, think not? Then recall Boston when they went door to door there. It was NOT the LE’s or the military that was used there that found the boy blamed for that act (despite using a WHITE light backpack)

    “What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to PREVENT THE ESTABLISMENT OF A STANDING ARMY, the bane of liberty….” Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, floor debate over the 2nd Amendment, I Annals of Congress

    1. Sorry Cal, I must disagree. Our air defense zones and coasts are guarded and protected by the Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard, not the local sheriff. It is a border. Same for Canadian and Mexican borders. Bath House Barry and the UN Globalists enabled the current level of disregard for our borders.

      The military in this case is not being used to police any citizen of the United States of America, or reduce our rights.

      Everyone who has served our country knows how we protect our borders from invasion of any sort. It’s serious business on a daily basis. Mexicans crossing the border to make a better life is not a threat. Foreigners from who knows where, all young military age, crossing multiple borders to invade this country different situation. We can use all available resources as we did in WWII.

      1. You just made my point.

        “US Constitution Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15: “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel invasions.“

        This is from the SUPREME LAW of our nation, that all who SERVE WITHIN our governments – state and federal, and that BTW includes the military, is REQUIRED to support and defend.

        So, tell me, what other felonies, Perjury are you saying that those who serve within the military should also perform because it is something that you do not want to follow?

        “Our air defense zones and coasts are guarded and protected by the Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard, not the local sheriff.”

        Yes, and they also marched, “just following orders”, “just doing their jobs”, on Boston, on American citizens when ordered to. Yet it was a PRIVATE citizen who discovered… nvm.

        “Bath House Barry and the UN Globalists enabled the current level of disregard for our borders.”

        Actually this happened before the presidential IMPERSONATOR (because he never met the requirements), and whose orders the military followed though he had NO LAWFUL authority.

        The UN has NO LAWFUL authority here in the USA. But it is the dumbing down of the PEOPLE that is the real problem or those who marched in Boston not so long ago would have met with resistance. Then add to that were the propaganda films showing “people cheering” – yeah, all put on for the American people to start accepting military on their streets.

        The reason for our ‘government’ was put into writing and made available to all openly was so that those unlawful actions AGAINST Americans would not be accepted. But the deliberate dumbing down of Americans by those who serve within the highest ranks of the military, those who serve within our governments has allowed us to be where we are today.

        IF, and I doubt that you are, are for really defending America and Americans you, and all who serve within the US military and LEA’s will KEEP your Oaths and actually take out the time to know what is expected of you. Read the US Constitution. Because if you are really defending the US, you WILL keep your Oath and not “just follow orders” and “just do your job”.

        You see, that attitude you are showing in the above comment is showing that you are a part of the problem and will go against the US Constitution which is America.

        You want to really do something American and good for our nation? If you are no longer actively serving, become the MILITIA that is required to stop invasions. Know that YOU personally are required to keep your Oath and it matters NOT what rank or office the order giver holds. Can you really defend America? I am asking? Can you KEEP YOUR OATH?

        Read the list to the side here on this site. Read the Oaths if you need a refresher because they are rarely discussed after they ceremony is over.

        America NEEDS Oath KEEPERS, particularly now. Can you be a part of those few who will refuse to just follow orders and just do their jobs or are you too brainwashed?

        1. Right. I’m fully aware of all these points. I’m not the one breaking “my oath” and I’m not the one casting aspersions in a response such as you have posted. You chose to attack me personally. I simply disagree with your interpretation.

          I am very clear in my statement that protecting a border is not what you and others propose is happening with protecting our southern and northern borders. We all agree regarding Boston or New Orleans. Those troops should have stood down.

  2. I always believed our “National Guard” would defend our country’s borders… Why aren’t they? Isn’t that their job also?

    1. Really? December 7 ring a bell? December 7,2017 multiple sorties were flown to intercept incoming targets off the west coast. Guess what? It wasn’t the National Guard that intercepted those targets, nor the militia.

      1. Key words here are “off the west coast”.

        I agree that the National Guard cannot do this, and California has a pizz poor Militia since those who are in them get their doors kicked in by LE Oath takers, get arrested by same, get treated like nut cases because those serving within a state government broke their Oath to the USA and to its own people about supporting and defending the US Constitution, and to the California Constitution and instead support and defend the PEOPLE who SERVE WITHIN the government(s).

        Are you aware of why Japan did not attack the USA (back during the war)? Because pretty much every AMERICAN was armed, and knew how to use those arms and they felt that it would be a bad idea because of that fact. But notice that through time that has been deeply discouraged by those who serve within our governments. Know why? Because it makes our nation vulnerable to have to depend on the Military and LE, which makes us doubly vulnerable because both of those groups “just follow orders” and “just do their jobs” per their training and subsequent “duties”. It was not the ocean that stopped that action from occurring, nor was it the military, it was that if they landed here they would be fighting every single American for every step they took. See the difference? Go study the history. While you are at it, notice that throughout HUMAN HISTORY, it is ALWAYS the military (by whatever name they called them) that is used against their own people, always.

        Our founders knew this and made the requirement of the Oath so that all who served within our governments and governmental enforcement would be bound to those documents, to follow that those documents put into writing instead of what a person who serves within our government at any level says to do.

        “December 7,2017 multiple sorties were flown to intercept incoming targets off the west coast.”

        Yes, and our country thanks them. But they also marched through people’s homes, etc in Boston not so long ago, in and on US streets against their own people, against their Oaths, against their nation. They will still do so if ordered to do it.

        So stand FOR your nation, become the REQUIRED Militia, use your military training to train them as the Congress requires the military to be trained. Stand for the US Constitution to which you are Oath sworn. But, also, READ IT so you know what is LAWFUL and what is not.

        1. I never mentioned California. And off the coast is from the direction those testing our resolve approached and were duly turned away at our shoreline. And we all agree that Boston and New Orleans were unconstitutional deployments and yes, those troops should have refused. That has little to do with protecting our borders from invasions. And if you would, in the future, please refrain from attacking my patriotism for simply disagreeing with you. I don’t attack yours.

  3. Donald “Take the guns first” Trump wants men with guns to protect people? What? Is he bipolar? Is he going to take away their select fire weapons? What? He only wants us disarmed? I see.

    1. Are you the same Fred, who never served, that accused someone here of breaking their oath, slamming a person who served their country in time of war just because they support and pointed out the good things the president has done and accomplished? The same Fred who only shows up to divide and conquer, and slam Trump while Trump rebuilds our military, respects our veterans, reverses Bath House Barry division? Seeing a pattern here. Just curious.

      1. Someone who points out that those that serve within the US military is (at least in my case) “just following orders” and “just doing their jobs” are not against the military, only against unlawful actions taken by the highest brass who USES the US Military for their own purposes (which I have discussed before). (and who GAVE our US Military to the UN – Panetta and Dempsey) admitting to this treason on the floor of the US Senate.

        Our last war was WWII. No other “war” is or has been LAWFUL. None. The US Congress has to declare war and that has not been done. No one else has the LAWFUL authority to require Americans in the military to put their lives on the line – and you should KNOW this if you took an Oath because to be able to keep that Oath requires reading the US Constitution. How else will you recognize an unlawful order that you are to NOT follow?

        No one who serves as a US President can call forth the US Military, nor are they the Commander in Chief UNTIL the US Congress declares war, or calls forth the Militia for federal law enforcement purposes (and that is the ONLY lawful law enforcement they can use).

        Article 1, Section 8 is where this is found, cannot for sure remember which clause, but think it is about Clause 10 or so. “The Congress shall have the Power To declare War, grant letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on the Land and Water;”

        “To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer term then two Years;”
        To provide and maintain a Navy’
        To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;”

        “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;”

        We still have military in prisons for KEEPING their Oaths. The last that I know of was shortly after Panetta and Dempsey declared their treason openly to the senate, plus told them that they MIGHT inform them of what the UN requires the US military to do, meaning that they took over our US Military and no one cared – OPENLY. I have yet to discover when our military is once again US instead of UN.

        This is why I advocate that those who serve NOT follow any orders except the US Constitution until we clean up the traitors and domestic enemies of the USA who “serve” within our government, and have for years.

      2. “Are you the same Fred, who never served, that accused someone here of breaking their oath”

        I never stated whether I served or not. I didn’t accuse anybody but Donald “Take the guns first” Trump of breaking his oath but I did point out that the below 2 Oath Keepers foundational principles are in question if it’s membership supports a president who signed Fix NICS and bans bump stocks.

        1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.

        2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people
.

        Thanks for asking.

        1. Yep… you are the same Fred.

          Oh…by the way Fred. President Trump, your friend “Donald”, claims its the 100 M gun owners protecting this country from invasion. Quote: Would you invade a country whereby a good portion of its citizens are armed? The ultimate deterrent.”

          How about that Fred. No one came to get my guns today.

    2. Your comment is a diversion from reality. Is it not the left who is calling for the 2nd Amendment to be discharged? Explain

  4. “We are preparing to have the military to secure our border between Mexico and the United States,”…

    We already protect both the Canadian and Mexican borders with the military. We are actually adding a new element to the protecting our borders from invasions. Are people that ill informed?

  5. The Constitutionality of the move aside…we’re in a fight. We’re in THE fight. Yes, we should have fully formed and trained militia…but we don’t. What we do have is the UN/Globalist-Soros funded armada wave of death…the same exact plague they’ve unleashed on Europe. I believe Trump has proven himself “America First”…but this should be every patriot’s wake-up call to form, train-up, and stand beside him.

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