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Law-Abiding Citizens Have More Than 600 Million Firearms in America

June 27, 2017 by Jenn Jacques

We’ve all seen this meme around the interwebs, right?

“Legal gun owners have over 200 million guns… and 12 trillion rounds of ammo. Seriously, people… if we were a problem, you’d know it!”

I’ve also seen one that claims we have over 400 million guns and 24 trillion rounds of ammunition. The fact is, while there is no definitive way to tally all the firearms in the United States, it is commonly accepted and reported that there are roughly 300 million firearms in the hands of law-abiding Americans.

But has anyone else noticed that number hasn’t moved in years, even in the 8 years Obama sparked an increase in gun sales, the gun run during Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, and after the NICS background checks system set new records for 15 straight months?

So what if that “300 million” estimate is wrong?

According to Weapons Man, it is:

We believe that the correct number is much higher — somewhere between 412 and 660 million.  You may wonder how we came to that number, so buckle up (and cringe, if you’re a math-phobe, although it never gets too theoretical): unlike most of the academics and reporters we linked above, we’re going to use publicly available data, and show our work.

What if we told you that one ATF computer system logged, by serial number, 252,000,000 unique firearms, and represented only those firearms manufactured, imported or sold by a relatively small number of the nation’s tens of thousands of Federal Firearms Licensees?

Law-Abiding Citizens Have More Than 600 Million Firearms in America

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  1. We easily have 600 million. When I was talking to an individual 4 years ago about this very subject, they got very pissed, and said “So what does it matter if you’re right?” I told them “it’s about the narrative that’s coming with the civil war they are about to start.”

    Here’s how it works; They do some sort of buy back program, coupled with confiscations (which have been taking place already), then they tell the public we have reduced the firearms on the street to half. Half of 300 million will convince more people to NOT fight back than half of 600 million will, or roughly one per person in the US. They will then offer 2 false choices and people will surrender even more arms, blah, blah, blah. I know this crowd gets it, so no need to go on.

    1. Greg, I don’t doubt your prediction, but ponder this. Regardless of what the current number is, back in the 60’s when the Left first began visible efforts to disarm America, the number was under 80 million. As the youngsters today would say, EPIC FAIL! The only things a gun buy back will accomplish are getting a few marginal firearms off the street, and weeding out the folks who don’t understand why they owned them in the first place. Neither result is bad.

      1. I agree Spook, but It’s not so much about the reality of the amount of guns on the street as it is about the false “Feelings Narrative” they will use, associated with a lied down number. Another thing to consider, there are a whole lot of undocumented guns now. I think that is a great thing, color me crazy.

        Here’s why; What is a “Law Abiding Citizen?” My version is, anyone who abides by the Constitution to the best of their ability, but to some, if you’ve run a red light or got caught speeding, you have broken the “Law.” Crazy right? Any time we allow them to put something Unconstitutional on the books, they will expand the definition via people’s “Feelings.” 30 years ago when I talked out about RICO, Civil Forfeiture, and Search and Seizures, I was not only considered a heretic, but always was suspected as “having something to hide.” Well, teachers have been prosecuted under RICO for fixing test scores, regular business owners and families have had their accounts and houses seized, and besides the no-knock warrants, we have seen the police state escalate searches based on nothing more than hear say. Another thing to consider, there are a whole lot of Republicans who should have a (D) next to their names. What’s really pushing this gun control agenda is the Global Corporatists. That’s who pays for the Progressives re-elections. That’s where we should focus.

        So far as the Civil War that I believe is coming; What happens when a bunch of disenchanted feeling thinkers become disenfranchised from their mother ship? You see, the Loretta Lynch’s, George Soros’ and Nancy Pelosi’s are going to have to back away from their “Seek a violent solution” narrative after this baseball practice shooting. This was easily predictable…be prepared for what comes next my friend.

      2. I’m about as prepared as I can be, and I’m not just talking about firearms, but I’m less worried about what’s coming than I was back in January. Part of that’s just because of where I live, rural Midwest, 15 acres, about 8 of which is tillable, lots of game, stocked pond, like-minded neighbors — kind of off the beaten track.

        The far Leftists, the ones who have their marching orders and funding coming from the 50+ Soros related organizations are such a miniscule minority that an organized group of hunters from any one of 35 conservative states could handle them. I’m not saying it wouldn’t be bloody, but it wouldn’t be a contest. At best, if they pool together all the radical Leftist groups, they can muster maybe 50,000 nationwide. They have a few who have some tactical/military training, but the vast majority don’t know which end of the tube the round comes out of. That said, I do believe they will be the ones to fire the first shot — in a sense, they already have, at a baseball field in Virginia.

        So, are rough times coming? Almost without question, but I do believe right will prevail, and, in the end, we may actually get rid of a lot of pains in the A$$.

  2. I am opposed to all registration! Except for manufacturing considerations, merchantability of the product and a means to respond to concerns of both arms sellers and customers, I am against serialization that may end up in a massive government data base.
    There is time enough to identify a firearm by its serial number by any person should it be stolen, and then it would be wise to do so.
    You must not criminalize an entire population because of the evil influence of a few..
    I do not believe in CCW permits either, and I strongly agree that a states border restriction not be allowed to exist.
    I believe I should be able to be in possession of my fire arm anywhere, at any time, without hindrance.
    Having said that, most of us realize that we more frequently than not go through our day without incident.
    For those who violate their duty to be peaceable, responsible, citizens, let the law righteously answer them.
    One thing the law may not do is come to me demanding my firearms without just cause. Fear of what I may do with them is not just cause.
    Only a repressive and tyrannical government need fear its citizens, armed or not, in anticipation of what they may do. Repressive governments kill their citizens, the aged, the infirm, women and children, the most helpless of them, and that is not something we must allow to come here.
    I am pleased to see a President who is respectful of the Creator.
    We must have confidence in the One who has assured us, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but my Words shall not pass away.”
    We are a Judaeo-Christian nation and as long as we hold fast to those Fundamental Principles, we shall do well.
    The evidences are that we are departing them and the unfortunate outcome shall be judgement.
    It is a fact our judges are already here.

  3. (How To Start A Civil War In America)

    Cute saying but what does it really mean?

    Guns are outlawed so a government can confiscate them from it’s citizens.

    When it comes to our guns and our freedoms, the United States may be unique compared to other countries. Millions of people in this country have guns. Tens of millions if not a hundred million people – one third of the population. Probably . more!

    We are a “Silent Majority”, we are an armed silent majority.

    GUN CONFISCATION: The main reason why governments confiscate their citizen’s guns is control. To control it’s citizens a government must take away their freedoms.

    To take away our freedoms the government must first take away our guns.

    The government will do that by passing anti-gun laws.

    But one thing is missing, or totally misunderstood. That is, there are millions of citizens who have guns and are dedicated to keep those guns to defend themselves, their families and their nation. Black; white; colored; ethnic background; religious preference; rich; poor, any and all gun owners. In fact that may be the one subject that would unite citizens.

    ANTI-GUN LAWS: The United Nations can pass all the anti-gun laws they want. U.S. congress can support those laws. But to enforce those laws, someone has to get down on the street and take the guns. Guaranteed that no U.N. official or U.S. Congress official will risk their lives confiscating guns.

    Local police and security officers (That includes me) will be forced to go door to door and take guns away from armed citizens – both Good Guys (legal gun owners) and the Bad Guys (The Outlaws).

    BAD GUYS include criminals; organized crime members; drug cartels; major gangs; neighborhood gangs; extremists; those with violent mental issues; terrorists, etc.. They all have guns. They will shoot anyone that tries to take their guns.

    The government knows they could never take away their guns no matter how many laws are passed. The Bad Guys do not obey the laws – that’s what makes them bad guys. So the government will start by taking guns away from law abiding citizens, aka: the Good Guys.

    GOOD GUYS – Most legal gun owners will not surrender their guns until the government confiscates all guns from the Bad Guys.

    Good Guys will organize and fight to defend themselves, their families, their rights and freedoms. This will be a national effort, not a local event like Waco or Montana. Militias and patriot groups are organizing now such as ACT, OK, Three Percent, etc.. Plus para-military groups, hunters, shooting clubs and individuals.

    CIVIL WAR. Officers confiscating guns will not only have to fight the Bad Guys, but also the Good Guys – including the officer’s own family members; their neighbors; church members; friends; veterans; other police officers, etc.. They will be fighting their sons, brothers, fathers. That is the definition of a civil war.

    We are talking about an all-out civil war, family against family. Our country would be destroyed.

    Terrorist groups have nothing to lose. The ‘elite’ (who are the force behind gun confiscation) will not lose, they would just escape to another country. U.N. has nothing to lose, in fact they prefer we destroy ourselves from within.

    HOW TO DESTROY A COUNTRY: Our country is already divided and faces many problems, any one which will force our country into a recession, depression and/or default. If the government tries to use that as an excuse to confiscate legal guns we could end up with that ‘civil war’.

    War; politics; race issues; immigration; bombings; terrorist attacks; etc., each could trigger mass protests, riots, etc.. The government could try to use any of those as an excuse to confiscate guns in the name of national security.

    It does not matter what excuse is used. Any attempt to confiscate guns from armed citizens will end in a civil war.

    WHO WILL FIGHT MILLIONS OF ARMED CITIZENS? The elite? U.N. Officials? U.S. Congress officials? Greedy bankers, brokers, business leaders or politicians? All they want is ‘power and/or money’. They are not going to fight.

    Maybe the paid to protest college students; extremists; illegals? Maybe Liberal group’s will fight. They may be protesting for a principle, but are they willing to die for it? They would soon realize that if our country is destroyed there will be nothing left for them. Also I doubt they will continue to protest once they realize they would become targets.

    So who will fight? That leaves the Army, law enforcement, government agents etc., until they realize they are fighting their family and friends. Or until the economy has collapsed and there is no money to pay them. Probably both!

    RISK: Unfortunately there are always extremists on both sides that will ‘shoot first and ask questions later’. Any attempt to confiscate their guns and those extremists will surely start shooting. Government agents could accidentally trigger a civil war by confronting these extremists.


    As mentioned, in a civil war there would be no winners, except maybe terrorist groups whose objective is to destroy the United States. Starting a civil war is just doing their work for them.

    Terrorists have declared war against the American people. Their purpose is to destroy us – we will be forced to ‘kill or be killed’. Americans better be prepared to defend themselves.


    For whatever reason our government will not, or cannot stop these terrorists. Our government needs armed citizens to keep terrorists from taking over (destroying) the country. Lets hope government officials realize that before it is too late.

    Unarmed citizens need protection to stop armed Bad Guys until the police can arrive. Every mass murder happened before the police could get there. That is obvious but for some reason ignored. Who will protect you until the police arrive?

    The solution for anti-gun individuals and groups is to take guns away from the Good Guys but let the Bad Guys keep their guns. Nonsense! Maybe in an Ideal world nobody has guns, but this is not an ideal world. The reality is that in the real world we must be able to protect ourselves until the police arrive.

    SUMMARY: Again, the objective of gun confiscation is not guns, but control. So to control us our government has to have an excuse to confiscate our guns.

    Whatever reason or excuse is used to confiscate guns in the United States it will result in armed conflict – civil war.

    Those officials that want to control our country PLEASE do not use gun confiscation to obtain your objective, you will start a civil war and there will be nothing left for you to control.

    This is just my opinion, but I hope and pray that someone can stop the madness that has taken over our country. You can be sure that either way the majority of gun owners will fight to protect themselves, their families and their freedoms.


  4. “PLEASE do not use gun confiscation to obtain your objective, you will start a civil war and there will be nothing left for you to control.”

    Fergus, not to rain on your parade; you make a lot of good point, but the true, radical Leftists, the New-World Order types would like nothing better than to reduce the global population by 90%.

    “The big threat to the planet is people: there are too many,
    doing too well economically and burning too much oil.”
    – Sir James Lovelock,
    BBC Interview


    “My three main goals would be to reduce human population to
    about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure
    and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species,
    returning throughout the world.”
    -Dave Foreman,
    co-founder of Earth First!


    “Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the
    affluent middle class – involving high meat intake,
    use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning,
    and suburban housing – are not sustainable.”
    – Maurice Strong,
    Rio Earth Summit


    “Mankind is the most dangerous, destructive,
    selfish and unethical animal on the earth.”
    – Michael Fox,
    vice-president of The Humane Society


    “Human beings, as a species,
    have no more value than slugs.”
    – John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal


    “Humans on the Earth behave in some ways like a
    pathogenic micro-organism, or like the cells of a tumor.”
    – Sir James Lovelock,
    Healing Gaia


    “The Earth has cancer
    and the cancer is Man.”
    – Club of Rome,
    Mankind at the Turning Point


    “A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells;
    the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people.
    We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to
    the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many
    apparently brutal and heartless decisions.”
    – Prof Paul Ehrlich,
    The Population Bomb


    “I don’t claim to have any special interest in natural history,
    but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in
    the number of game animals and the need to adjust
    the cull to the size of the surplus population.”
    – Prince Philip,
    preface of Down to Earth


    “A reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society
    at the present North American material standard of living
    would be 1 billion. At the more frugal European standard
    of living, 2 to 3 billion would be possible.”
    – United Nations,
    Global Biodiversity Assessment


    “A total population of 250-300 million people,
    a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
    – Ted Turner,
    founder of CNN and major UN donor

  5. All good comments above. One of the many things I have done was working in the arms business during the islamist Bath House Barry regime. Record guns sales prevailed as everyday American patriots saw what the regime’s end game was. New gun manufacturing emerged, along with individuals learning the art of gunsmithing and building weapons.

    Regardless of the numbers being held by the public, a great awaking occurred resulting in the election of presidential candidate that smartly used the 2nd amendment and patriotism to lure votes. So, for the short run I reckon the anti constitutionalists have experienced a severe setback, thus the outrageous behavior of their minions.

    The intentional job destroying policies built an army of leftist terrorists, young men and women who blindly parrot the sedition and treason of leftist agenda. But, we have witnessed they have no stamina to stay in the fight they created. The irony is they adhere to promote the confiscation and non ownership of guns, rendering those who conform to the lefts agenda unprotected against those they hate. Meanwhile the left cartel aggressively promotes hate and assassination, resulting in the shooting of republican congressmen, particularly the congressman who is seeking the pedophile prosecution crimes of child rape, kidnapping, trafficking and murder.

    The left cartel has a lot to lose under the current Trump administration. Trump, who is witnessing and promoting the foundations of Christian values our forefathers intended this nation to follow. Meanwhile the islamist Bath House Barry is actively sowing the seeds of sedition to destroy the USA patriotism and nationalism.

    The left globalistas are pushing all the buttons for a civil war to occur. Rather than allow that to happen, may I suggest those enemies of the state be arrested by the militia and force the current administration to prosecute those traitors who advocate against our republic. We certainly have the constitutional right, the man power and the armament to carry this out. It is our duty to defend our constitution, not with tolerance knowingly stand by watching its destruction. Start with an arrest of a treasonous official/politician in a county that has a constitutional sheriff. Waiting for the ballot box to rectify our nation, albeit needing to happen as well, is not enough. Am I being a provocateur, damn straight I am. Provoking a rise in constitutional law being enforced on the wicked who openly want us destroyed by any means.

    Invest in our future; invest in weapons a rogue “government” will use on you. Cause them great fear of the citizen. Like I stated in my opening remarks, gun/ammo sales are high along with modern gun powder, casings, primers, bullets and reloading equipment. The patriots have awakened.

    Remember Fort McHenry and God Bless America!

    O say can you see, by the dawn’s early light,
    What so proudly we hail’d at the twilight’s last gleaming,
    Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight
    O’er the ramparts we watch’d were so gallantly streaming?
    And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
    Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there,
    O say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

    On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep
    Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
    What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
    As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
    Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
    In full glory reflected now shines in the stream,
    ’Tis the star-spangled banner – O long may it wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

    And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
    That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
    A home and a Country should leave us no more?
    Their blood has wash’d out their foul footstep’s pollution.
    No refuge could save the hireling and slave
    From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    O thus be it ever when freemen shall stand
    Between their lov’d home and the war’s desolation!
    Blest with vict’ry and peace may the heav’n rescued land
    Praise the power that hath made and preserv’d us a nation!
    Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
    And this be our motto – “In God is our trust,”
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

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