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Forward Observer Podcast: Round Table On Where We Go From Here


Sam Culper, of Forward Observer Magazine, asked the following people to be on his podcast this week to discuss where the Liberty/Patriot Movement is and where do we go from here.   The participants are:

– Peter White, Western Rifle Shooters Association

Matt Bracken, former SEAL and fiction author

– Mike Vanderboegh, III% Founder and Sipsey Street Irregulars

– Stewart Rhodes (yours truly), Oath Keepers

– David Codrea, War on Guns

– Bob Wright, New Mexico Militia

You can listen here:

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I think this was a very interesting and productive discussion, with lots of great ideas and insights.  I encouraged Sam to do it again soon.

You might want to also read this piece by Brandon Smith.

Sam sent us all some questions to answer as prep for the podcast round table.   I will be posting my written answers, hopefully later today, and I will also post/link to any written answers the other participants give Sam.

In addition to listening to the podcast, I highly recommend – urge – that all of you read the following superb piece by Matt Bracken:

Tet, Take Two – Islam’s 2026 European Offensive.

Read that, and reflect on what it means for us here in the U.S. (think of cascading effects, consequences, and fallout) and also think about what a “Tet, Take Two American Style” would look like here, given our near parallel problem of intentionally wide open borders, a “walking dead” zombie economy, and ticking time bomb of jihadist cells, increasing influx of military aged male Muslim “refugees” who are not vetted or sorted to preclude ISIS adherents, increasingly radicalized street gangs, etc.

Think on how we too have a very large “Progressive” Marxist block that is all too happy to get in bed with anyone who also hates Western Civilization, and how we also have an equally dangerous block of “useful idiots” and knowing traitors within the G.O.P.  (John McCain?   Lindsey Graham?  I rest my case).   And think on  how that all fits in with the worldwide designs of the international banking elites who want to destroy our sovereignty and independence just as they wish to do in Europe.   Clearly the game-plan is the same.

Europe may enter the maelstrom first, as Bracken predicts, but we Americans will be right behind them.

And then reflect on our Community Preparedness Team (CPT) program and why I started that back in October, 2013 – in a nutshell to take active steps to prepare our local communities to weather the coming storm, and in particular to focus on the systemic, “extinction level” risks of no local security and no strategic food reserves during a “perfect storm“(skip ahead to the 17:55 mark).

And keep those two critical deficiencies (no local security, no strategic national or local food reserves) in mind as you listen to this podcast, and as you read Bracken’s piece.  Then read this latest piece on community security from Sam Culper.

I will have more to say on that shortly, and where Oath Keepers will be going this year.  We have some critical work to do, and some strong plans for 2016.  Let’s get back and track, and get it done.




Stewart Rhodes

Stewart is the founder and National President of Oath Keepers. He served as a U.S. Army paratrooper until disabled in a rough terrain parachuting accident during a night jump. He is a former firearms instructor, former member of Rep. Ron Paul’s DC staff, and served as a volunteer firefighter in Montana. Stewart previously wrote the monthly Enemy at the Gates column for S.W.A.T. Magazine. Stewart graduated from Yale Law School in 2004, where his paper “Solving the Puzzle of Enemy Combatant Status” won Yale’s Miller prize for best paper on the Bill of Rights. He assisted teaching U.S. military history at Yale, was a Yale Research Scholar, and is writing a book on the dangers of applying the laws of war to the American people.



  1. Great to hear from you personally Mr. Rhodes!
    As was suggested by one who left a comment in reference to Mr. Brandon’s article, I DID listen to that podcast. EXCELLENT!!! We need more of that!!! And by ‘that’ I mean leaders interacting with leaders and SHARING their thoughts with ‘we the people’ who are STARVED for principled leadership!
    I am very hopeful relative to the awakening that is going on on a daily basis, especially when we are taking advantage of the open communications that we have available to us here and now via the internet, etc. I tell people on a daily basis, especially when they tell me to ‘watch my language’, that we live in AMERICA and we ALL better ACT like we live in AMERICA!!! The time to act is NOW, and always has been. Some of the subject matter that you all shared on that podcast MUST be shared with Americans all over the country, who have NO idea of the SUCCESSES that have happened that have never been broadcast on the typical news stations.
    And yes, ‘we the people’ can definitely profit from a ‘reading list’ that you, the leadership, recommend.
    Thank you for your presence, your courage and your leadership. And that thank you goes out to the few that keep this website alive.
    Let us USE all the means that we have at our disposal NOW, boldly, confidently and with the American Spirit that IS ALIVE and WELL!
    With much gratitude and respect,
    Robert D. Gubisch

  2. The only thing these corrupt politicians fear, is that we would ever organize, arm and sit in front of their buildings in DC and promise not to leave until they make changes or get dragged out by us and prosecuted. And until the leaders of these agencies and their bosses are replaced we could fight hundreds of these fights across this country and get nowhere. The best way to peacefully force change is one massive show of force directly to the head of the snakes. Just my old senile opinion.

  3. When you understand the District of Columbia is a foreign City State and not a constitutionally created government, it becomes much easier to understand opposing it is not treason to the principles of the Declaration of Independence and the American Republic. In fact, it should clarify the duty of all true Americans to wrest America from their fraudulent and deceptive control of us. Those that wish to be free and restore freedom for their posterity must repeat the necessity of 1775-1781 by fighting the oligarchy’s agents and removing them from our shores.


    The agreement that created the Federal government has been breached and is no longer observed or followed by the District of Columbia; therefore, there is no LAWFUL government of the United States of America within the District of Columbia. The States need to re-assert their sovereignty in its entirety, expel the agents of the District of Columbia from their borders, confiscate all of the assets of that lawless foreign entity; repelling all efforts of that CITY STATE to return.

    It is up to us to restore our freedom and retake our states from the corporate interests now controlling them.

  4. Sounds like working locally makes real sense. It is difficult to win at the flash point because the adversary’s assets will be concentrated there. Always fight to win on our terms and where we choose to fight.

  5. I was somewhat disappointed that this discussion did not consider the need for constitutional Militia, which would provide the people with constitutional authority as actual organized institutions within the State and General Governments, as the foundation for everything else which needs to be done. The Militia, after all, are the people’s most direct, and potentially puissant, form of participation in government, exercising the sovereign Power of the Sword directly. They are not outside of the government, or antagonists of the government. And rather than talking about “armed civil disobedience” and “negating law”–which at least rhetorically cedes to our opponents the legal(istic) high ground that they represent the true “law”, and those who oppose them are for that very reason somehow acting “lawlessly”–patriots should be talking about armed (and unarmed) defense and enforcement of the Constitution through those constitutional institutions in which the people participate, and which they control, directly. One is not engaged in “civil DISobedience” when he challenges an unconstitutional edict purporting to be a “law”. Neither is he “negating a “LAW” when that supposed “law”, because it is unconstitutional, is no “law” at all. Especially is this true when he is acting in the Militia, the very first constitutional authority and responsibility of which is “to execute the Laws of the Union”, including first and foremost “the supreme Law of the Land”.

    1. No disagreement with your observations Mr. Vieira, but what makes you believe that predatory anti-Constitution/anti-Liberty Federal Leviathan or any of its branches, offices, minions and/or apparatchiks, would recognize the legitimacy of any constitutional Militia and not label and treat them exactly as Leviathan does all things, groups and people who espouse the Constitution and a restoration of the Republic?

    2. I agree with Dr. Vieira that the constitutionally REQUIRED Militia should have not only been mentioned, but a brief plan outline presented. It IS the Militia that is has as its constitutionally assigned duties to:

      — Enforce the US Constitution and each state’s Constitution,
      — Enforce and keep the “Laws of the Union” (which are constitutional laws ONLY),
      — Protect the country against all enemies both domestic and foreign, and
      — “to suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.

      It not only says this here within the Constitution of the United States of America, Second Amendment: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”; but also here in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15 directly with these words: ““To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel invasions.

      Clause 16 delegates the duties to both the federal and state governments even if they are ignored by those that serve: ““To provide for organizing, ARMING, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress”.

      Just because those that serve within our governments do not do their duty here does not mean that the people must do them as is made clear when George Washington said that the people must have their own weapon factories, particularly those that create weapons of war that might be used against us;

      George Washington: “A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.”

      It is VERY important for all to remember that it is “We the People” who are to, and must, follow and know the US Constitution and each state Constitution while we do the things we must do to remove the domestic enemies and the Traitors from our governments. It is the reason that everything we must do is to be DEFENDING OUR LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT.

      John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions of the United States: “To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws.”

      Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Papers 28: “The militia is a voluntary force not associated or under the control of the States except when called out; [when called into actual service] a permanent or long standing force would be entirely different in make-up and call.”

      Thomas Jefferson: “For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well organized and armed militia is their best security.”

    3. The need for the constitutional Militia should be foremost in the minds of all liberty movement leadership and members in all of the various organizations that seek redress of grievance. This absolutely puts us on the legal(istic) high ground.

      We must form Committees of Correspondence to politically push for the reformation of the constitutional Militia in the various states and Committees of Safety in those states to back up the demands made to the various state legislatures and governors.

      The 3% movement and other Militia organizations already have a start on the concept of Committees of Safety but have no real direction or actual legal legitimacy.

      By combining these two peoples constitutional functions with the dedicated goal and the concerted effort to revitalize the constitutional Militia, could the constitutional Militia all across the country not be realized sooner?

      It certainly lends to a more legal and public legitimacy for the Militia movement.

      Gives direction and purpose to two important segments of our cause of restoring our Constitutional Republic and a concerted effort at the state level would identify public servants that need to go because of their oath breaking rejection of this most important civic duty of the people.

      How about it Dr Vieira, is this something that you think that you could sink your teeth into?

  6. Good discussion. Several points shout at me and some I spoke to at the OathKeepers site already on this article. But here are what I consider to be imperatives going forward.

    The public must be educated at a much higher level than they are on some basic issues and matters. One way would be to use focus groups who do nothing but generate good usable info and then distribute it by any means possible. I have been doing this in spades for several years at my website. But there is likely an even better way and that would be to join forces with many groups for a common goal and actually send people around to specific meetings like the old time revival tents ? Create our own venues and sell books related to good ideas and give some stump speeches about liberty and what is at stake. Have a lot of handout info as well and also ask for donations to pay for the travel cost and such. This movement needs to get some legs and get fired up with some esprit de corp ! America is in fact considerably dumbed down and we need to change that as much as possible

    The other issue that shouts at me is how weak most Americans have become. Most could not fight their way out of a wet paper bag and that is a glaring matter indeed. So people need to get fired up on training of various degrees and matters. Not just physical, but mindset as well ! There is a potential new fervor in motion as many are waking up to be sure and realizing that their health and fitness are critical for many reasons. I am doing both of these things as we speak and would gladly help put it all together with some assistance, directly focused on the liberty movement/ideas. I am not at all about talk, I am all about results and little else. We have plenty of sites that do nothing but talk and sell junk to greater fools. Time to nut up and get people fired up to a good cause and real action as well as good ideas and purpose.

    Here is my facebook page as well

  7. Bravo!!!
    Now that is what we need more of! Clear, well thought out, conversation from experienced and studied people, sharing important intel with the troops.
    This type of sharing, and exchange of ideas and experiences, breeds more ideas, and inspires those listening to do likewise.
    I could listen to this group talk till the cows come home! It sure got me to thinking.
    Well done!

  8. Let’s get McCain to a meeting. A Townhall, anything..Let’s ask some questions. And most important of all is get some answers.
    Here’s opne: Sen. mcCain you know who we are and what we are standing for, and what is all the resistance to protecting the Nation form insane liberal policies with a whole host of ‘off the charts’ nonsense?
    Sen>McCain where are you on these and who are you repping in this?
    Sen.McCain we see you harp about protecting the military and if you love them so much why do you not bark at Obama about all these rules of engagement? These are dangerous and destructive to the men and women of the services.

  9. I am a physician and had my property taken from me, so I really identified with the Bundys who were having their property taken and refused. I went down to Bunkerville and introduced myself to Mr. Bundy. He immediately asked me to sit at his right side while he spoke. Mormons are very spiritual, as are the Orthodox, so I took this as a sign of friendship. The Bundy Ranch Standoff was an example of a Constitutional militia, with the exception that they needed non-local reinforcements as his neighbor ranchers had all been run off their land by the BLM. Physicians are in a similar position in that most of us have been herded onto the CMS reservation. My question is how can the Liberty Movement support the Bundys, even though their action was not wise from a military standpoint. I understand that Mr. Bundy was not that welcoming of the Oathkeepers’ help. I hope that you can forgive him for being naive and make amends. I’m sure the Native American on the reservations would publicly denounce Geronimo, but privately admire him; even the US Calvary admired him. However “foolish” it took the death of LaVoy Finicum to wake people up to the ranchers’ plight which has been going on since Clinton started imposing Agenda 21 in the 1990’s (Americans have too much land and eat too much meat. The Globalists know Americans are physically strong because of our meat eating, that’s how we defeated the mush-eating British.) If the Liberty Movement cannot prevent the demise of the American rancher, family farmer, and the private practice of medicine, then America is lost forever.

  10. I heard several of the round table members mention the importance of a designated PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER (PIO).

    A very important position for any organization to make, Stewart; on a national level and on a state level, controlled and trained by the national level PIO.

    We have a wealth of experienced members in this field that could put together an SOP. Again, it would make Oath Keepers more professional looking to the public and the powers that be thus command more respect from its detractors so as to protect and project itself more efficiently.

    This position would prevent Asshats from making it look like our organization is in complete agreement with their ill-fated endeavors like the one that we just witnessed in Oregon.

    Think about it, Stewart and BoD, this billet could be totally controlled by the BoD and project our message on a national stage more effectively and professionally than has been done so far. He or she would be a part of the BoD and in turn protected legally. The message put out by the PIO would be in total agreement by the BoD and passed down to the individual spokespersons in the various state chapters for public dissemination.

    The PIO position would facilitate our organization’s legitimacy which would overall create better public awareness, counter disinformation put out by the detractors and better recruitment.

    We have to win the information war and this is the way that we do it.

    We have to become more legitimate in the public eyes and in the eyes of our target audience and this is the way that we do it.

    We have to shape the information battle space and this is the way that we do it.

    We have to project ourselves more professionally and this is the way that we do it.

    We have to make our organization more main stream and this is the way that we do it.

    We have to lead the greater whole of the liberty movement to the same stature of legitimacy by our example and this is the way to do it.

  11. Fellow Patriots There needs to be a clarification and apology from Mr Stewart Rhodes of his comments on the Priest River Idaho Veteran incident. His statement of the incident being strictly a local issue are inaccurate.and incorrect. This incident was in fact addressed by a combined effort of patriots from both Eastern Washington and North Idaho including elected State Representatives from each state along with the support of the local Bonner county Sheriff.. The tyranny gun grabbing actions of the VA came through the VA center located in Spokane WA This was a regional issue being addressed at the local level by combined efforts of Patriots in the American Redoubt. Mr Rhodes incorrect statements in this forum leads people to believe otherwise with his inaccurate comments on the incident.. Mr Rhodes if you are going to use incidents you are not personally involved with make a point do your due diligence in researching to get your facts correct, Integrity counts!

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