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Historic”Militia” Moment: Pacific Patriot Network (Including Oath Keepers) Calls On FBI



Note from Stewart Rhodes, Founder and President of Oath Keepers:

See the below video.  Very interesting interaction between the Pacific Patriot Network (PPN) leadership delegation and the FBI (who were all kitted out with rifles, plate carriers, and chest rigs).

Among the PPN leaders are Brandon Curtiss, the founder of the Idaho III%; Brandon Rapolla, the Oregon Oath Keepers state CPT Coordinator; and Joseph Rice, the leader of the Josephine County, OR chapter of Oath Keepers (site of the Sugar Pine Mine operation this last year).   They are doing this under the banner of the Pacific Patriot Network, which is a coalition of groups from Oregon, Washington, and Idaho, including local Oregon Oath Keepers chapters (and note that they stressed several times at an earlier press conference that they are not a militia, but that is what the media, including alternative media, insists on calling them).

Their purpose there in Harney County is to help open a line of dialogue and to serve as a buffer to prevent another Waco incident.   This is a righteous mission, if done right, and we stand in full support of it.

However, at this time we are not doing a national call out for other Oath Keepers members to go there.  The local Oregon guys, along with the very capable leaders of Idaho III%, appear to have this mission covered (of being a buffer and facilitating dialogue), and less is more when it comes to keeping things deescalated, as is the stated wish of everyone involved, including Ammon Bundy.

Unless our guys in OR say they need our help  for this mission, stay home and get your own AO squared away.  Got a community Quick Reaction Force (QRF)?  Have a neighborhood watch with real teeth?   Can you answer the three critical questions of “who’s on your buddy team?  Who’s on your fire teem?  Who’s on your squad?”   Got a posse behind a good constitutional sheriff?  Got Minuteman unit?  Got civil defense unit?  Got militia?  If not, then you need to get that done before you even think of running off to another state, unless it’s a dire emergency, like Bundy Ranch was.

If this situation goes south, and the Obama Admin turns this into another Waco, the crap WILL hit the fan nationwide, since there are no more free Wacos – not anymore – and you will have your hands full right where you are, and in reaction, the first thing you should do is organize town and county militias for mutual defense.  And that is something we will all need sooner or later.  So, start laying the groundwork for that now.  Today.
Stewart Rhodes

Video courtesy of Pete Santilli Show:

“Historic Militia Moment! Heavily Armed Idaho 3 Percenters Roll Up On FBI Compound Burns Oregon”

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  1. Very professional guys. That’s the way we need to do things. I would say the ball is now in the feds court. You guys did it right. Very proud of you all. Nice vid pete. Keep em coming.

    1. Just remember that the world laughed and mocked the Revolutionaries, until the world realized how truly wrong they were to doubt the Revolutionaries… Who do you think this country was founded by??? Also remember that Britain at the time believed we were farmers with pitchforks! Just saying…

      1. You made that up, this county was founded by radical liberal thinkers with the extreme idea that the people could rule themselves against a aristocracy and it’s conservative supporters the tories

      2. Not exactly. They were liberal thinking for people under tyranny who thought it shouldn’t be that way and they fought to be free and to organize a government system that would prevent tyranny as long as possible. They invoked God (yes, the one of the Bible) a lot. George Washington talked about God a lot in his letters. Benj. Franklin read the Bible, even to the point of cutting out the parts he didn’t agree with. A lot of them were freemasons, but it appears from letters to Franklin that there were two branches of them in France and that they were part of the non-esoteric branch here in the states. Franklin warned Washington that the esoteric elements had traveled over. There is no doubt that the founders talking of God were referring to the one of the Bible as they made clear and that they believed in natural law.

      3. Liberal thinkers? What history did you study? The Revolutionaries were far from liberal! The liberals opposed the Revolution. They were no different than the liberals of today!

    2. I don’t know of ANY SANE PERSON who is laughing at these people. But, I do know that many of us are PRAYING for a non-violent and fair resolution.

    3. The world is laughing at you a lemming not willing to stand up for your rights look at what has happened to America bunch of pussy’s willing to give up their freedoms for security. Benjamin Franklin said “People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both” If you don’t stand and fight for your rights your are giving them away. John Adams said “a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever. When the People once surrender their share in the Legislature, and their Right of defending the Limitations upon the Government, and of resisting every Encroachment upon them, they can never regain it” wake up our government is and has been turning into tyranny not all in the government has betrayed the people but the ones the that have better get back in line our we the people will take them out of line 1776 all over again. I will never retreat and i will never surrender.

      1. Yeh, no shit. That is why we are doing what we are doing. But you have to have brains and balls. Otherwise you are just a brainless, blundering berzerker, screaming “WOLVERINES!” as you fall on your sword. We have stood up, and are standing up, all over the country. So not sure who you are talking to here. What must be done is to do that hard work of getting ready locally. That is the daily grind, where there are no cameras, no grand speeches, and you may never be thanked for what you do, but it must be done. Who’s on your buddy team? Who’s on your fire team, who’s on your squad. And got intelligence? As Sam Culper puts it, intelligence gathering is the single most important thing you can be doing right now, so get an intelligence section or team up and running pronto. Stewart

      2. What “rights” are you exactly referring to? Federal lands belong to “all’ United States Citizens, not only the individuals in Haney County, simple as that. Mr. Rhodes should know this very well1

    4. Yea they probably will. That may be what it takes. They are not fair weather patriots that our founders complained about.

      I for one will send all I can to their legal defence fund should it come to that. And go armed to the fight if called.

      If you are not ready to put all you have for the cause of liberty you may be in the wrong place.

    1. I would love to be apart of a militia, but I am alone here in New York! This state is a welfare dependent gun control obsessive depressive godless bunch of fakers that won’t do anything but call the militia rad neck racists! These New Yorkers are slaves to the system subjects & I hate this New York system of tyranny!! I am a prisoner until I get out of here but I am alone with no family! Do U have some advice or anyone! Thanx!

  2. Mr Rhodes, the question is what is going to happen next because while Ammon is generating support we all know that will dissipate. Most assuredly an incident will be provoked or occur justifying the Feds moving in. Hopefully the meeting with the representatives will generate momentum, but if not what then? I agree with your idea, a Cooperative Security Plan of sorts. These various groups are loosely associated but maybe it is time all consider a more structured organization that begins possibly with an online Operations Cell.

    1. I think is is important for the leaders of groups to communicate in some form of leadership coalition or round table, where the leaders retain open lines of communication but each group retains its own autonomy and independence (and the rank and file members or participants have more privacy if they want it).

      But what is needed MOST OF ALL is local neighborhood watches, since nobody is going to go out and do anything – you will not be projecting out – unless your home and family is safe. The neighborhood watches are not optional. They are necessary. This is where the older and/or less fit patriots come in. They are the HOME GUARD to protect the homes and families while the younger/fitter guys project out.

      Then, form a unit that can project out. Call it a CPT, a civil defense unit, a QRF, whatever you want. It is a broader town or county level team/unit that is more capable of being out in the field. It also needs a support element that can project out to support it. That is why our CPT project, modeled on how Special Forces does it, has an A and B team, with the A team being the field team and the B team being support. That same basic structure can be used down at the neighborhood level too ,for the same reasons (the fitter ones can be the security and search and rescue, and the older and less fit can be support).

      Once you have the neighborhood watch, and a town QRF/CPT, go out and replicate and spread that concept, with the CPT being a training cadre to help organize, train and advise more neighborhood watches and more town QRF (all the more needed with the now obvious threat of “active shooter” and terrorist attacks, especially considering the threat to schools).

      And spread it to churches, which should also have an A team for security and rescue and a B team for support (and the B team will tend to be far larger, and needs to be).

      and spread it to VFWs and other veterans halls and other civic associations. The more groups who form these teams, the better.

      And then work for a constitutional Sheriff to be elected, if you don’t already have one, and then form a posse around him or her, made up of all of those citizens who are already in neighborhood watches, and other mutual aid and mutual defense groups. They retain those critical associations and structures, which are resilient and will always be there even if the Sheriff changes his mind about a posse, or loses an election, dies, retires, whatever and his replacement is not onboard. Never give up those local groups that are so necessary.

      And then, finally, those groups and that posse can lead to a revitalization of a true militia, made up of all able bodied adults residents. and it is best if that has official sanction by elected representatives. Best at the state level, but that is unlikely to happen before the crap hits the fan, so I think it is worth doing even down at the county and town level, with a town council or county commissioners giving their seal of approval to a town or county militia. I am not sure if Dr. Edwin Vieira would agree, but I think there is precedence for that in the Founders era, where towns and counties formed their own militia when they could not get support from the colonial legislature. Heck, the town militias of Lexington and Concord are two examples of that. See the Suffolk County Resolves.


      1. Stewart, as a lurker on this site and others (Sipsey, etc) I have a few questions that I think I am not alone in. You mention that if a SHTF situation plays out in OR, then various Patriot groups will have their hands full with their own AO. Others have clamored for answers to the “if not now- when” question. Can you post an article briefly outlining how you see a Waco-type response playing out nationwide. There are many of us that have not formal military training, and we are extremely wary of being associated with fringe knuckleheads like Cooper, Payne, Ritzheimer. We are aware of what is going on, and am willing to follow someone with a level head that knows when “the time” comes. We desire QRTs, CPTs etc but just don’t know where to turn to. Some of us are worried about security clearances, parishioners, instigators and the like. We also understand the suspicion from level headed groups towards outsiders. Perhaps the answers are buried beneath all of the comments. We could use some guidance. Thanks for your time, and your continued service.
        Signed- one of suspected thousands trying to find our way into this frontier

      2. J/Stewart/et al:

        I just turned 74 and I’ve waiting for the SHTF for at least 40 years.
        Not that I’m eager to precipitate a conflict, but I cannot help hoping
        that if is GOING to happen – for me there is no better time than NOW!

      3. Any who are on a SWAT team and attack the Bundy’s are two things, a felon and perjuror for breaking their Oath to the US Constitution, and a Traitor to the American people, the US Constitution, the USA.

        The same for those in Oregon with the Bundy’s there. It is a peaceful protest, in a public bulding that was not broken into (from what I understand from one who lives there).

        You know it cannot be a lawful “federal” building as they are ONLY ALLOWED to create “Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings”. Those that serve within the general government were NOT delegated the power to take and keep the territories that they held in TRUST for the “new” states. That land was to belong the people of that “new” state when the state was created, and each “new” state came in on equal footing with the originals.

        Just because some Domestic Enemies serving within the general changed that did NOT make it a lawful change, it was not since they were NEVER delegated the authority to do so and that IS in writing.

        Those that “just follow orders” or “just do their jobs” will be – hopefully through choice and not through ignorance – made into Traitors. They can be, and will be, proscuted and may receive the death penalty for those actions.

        You see, those who stand by the US Constitution, our legitimate government, and keep their Oaths operate lawfully and fully within its boundaries. That is more then I can say for many of those who serve within our governments – state and general.

        The opinion in Mack and Printz v. United States stated, “The Framers rejected the concept of a central government that would act upon and through the States, and instead designed a system in which the State and Federal Governments would exercise concurrent authority over the people. The Federal Government’s power would be augmented immeasurably and impermissibly if it were able to impress into its service – and at no cost to itself – the police officers of the 50 States… Federal control of state officers would also have an effect upon the separation and equilibration of powers between the three branches of the Federal Government itself.”

        “The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions.
        In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.” Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

        Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn: “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

        Reverend Martin Niemoller, Germany, 1930’s: “In Germany they first came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up because I was a protestant. Then they came for me and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.”

        (Think of Boston, etc when reading this) “Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.” Henry Kissinger, 1992 Bilderberg Group meeting

      4. Stewart, This is a revised copy of the Suffolk Resolves for our present day problems,


        Whereas the power, but not the justice, the vengeance but not the wisdom, that which our government to has persecuted, scourged our country and now pursues we the people, the guiltless with unrelenting severity; and whereas, this then Savage and uncultivated desert was purchased by toil and treasure, and acquired by the valor and blood, of those venerable progenitors, who bequeathed to us the dear-bought inheritance, who consigned it to our care and protection,-the most sacred obligations are upon us to transmit the glorious purchase, unfettered by power, unclogged with shackles, to our innocent and beloved offspring. On the fortitude, on the wisdom, and on the exertions of this important day is a bended the fate of this new world, and of unborn millions. If a boundless extent of continent, swarming with millions, while tamely submit to live, move, and have their being at the arbitrary will of the licentious minister, they basically yield to voluntary slavery; and future generations shall load their memories with incessant execrations. On the other hand, if we arrest the hand which would ransack our pockets; if we disarm the parricide, who points the dagger to our bosoms; if we nobly defeat that fatal edict which proclaims a power to frame laws for us in all cases whatsoever, thereby entailing the endless and numberless curses of slavery upon us, our heirs and their heirs forever, if we successfully resist that unparalleled usurpation of unconstitutional power, whereby our capital is robbed of the means of life; whereby the streets of our cities are thronged with military executioners; whereby our coasts are lined, and harbors crowded with ships of war; whereby the Constitution and Bill of Rights; whereby a murderous law is framed to shelter villains from the hands of justice; whereby the unalienable and is inestimable inheritance, which we derived from nature, our Constitution, which was covenanted to us by our founding fathers, is totally wrecked, an old and vacated,-posterity will acknowledge that virtue which preserved them free and happy; and, while we enjoy the rewards of blessings of the faithful, the torque of panegyric will roll down our reputations to that last period, when the screens of time shall be absorbed in the abyss of eternity.
        Therefore, we have resolved and do resolve,-
        1. That, whereas the president of the United States of America, the entire executive branch, the Senate, and the House of Representatives having been duly elected, to do the will of the people,-therefore we, the heirs and successors of the first planters of this colony, do cheerfully acknowledge to that rightful fact, but due to the actions of that present Government the covenant no longer allows we the people to adhere to that allegiance.
        2. That it is an indispensable duty which we all to God, our country, ourselves, and posterity, by all lawful ways and means in our power, to maintain, defend, and preserve those civil and religious rights and liberties for which many of our fathers fought, led, and died for, and to hand them down in their entire to future generations.
        3. That the late Acts by the president of the United States, or legislative branch and Supreme Court decisions usurping and altering our established form of government, and for screening the most flagitious violations of the laws as put forth in our Constitution and Bill of Rights, are gross infractions of those rights to which we are justly entitled by the laws of nature, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and God.
        4. The Constitution demands a separation of powers between the branches of our government and limits the powers of each of those branches in specific language, the Acts that have been committed usurping powers granted to the legislative branch by the executive branch specifically, the president of the United States, and the rulings of the Supreme Court failing to uphold the powers of the Constitution, by legislating from the bench, specifically, changing the wording of the law as written. We the People do hereby hold all the above offenders in contempt of the Constitution.
        5. That no obedience is due from We the People to either or any part of the Acts above mentioned; but that they be rejected as attempts of a wicked government to enslave the American people into socialism.
        6. That so long as the justices of our Superior Court, Appellate courts, general and district courts, are appointed, or hold their places by any other tenure other than being elected by the people, for a term less than a lifetime appointment, they must be considered as under undue influence, therefore corrupt within the political system, and are therefore unconstitutional officers, and as such no regard ought to be paid to them by the people of this country.
        7. That if the justices of the Superior Court, Appellate courts, general and district courts, shall set an act during their present unqualified state, this country will support and bear harmless all sheriffs and their deputies, constables, jurors, and other officers who shall refuse to carry into execution the orders of said courts. And, as far as possible to prevent the inconveniences that must attend the suspension of the courts of justice, we do earnestly recommend that any disputes concerning deaths are trespasses that should arise, which cannot be settled by the parties, we recommend it to them to submit all such causes to arbitration; and if the parties, or either of them, shall refuse so to do, they ought to be considered as cooperating with the enemies of this country.

        8. That it be recommended to the collection of taxes, all persons who have public moneys in their hands, to retain the same, and not to make any payment thereof to any local, state or federal agency, or treasurers, until the civil government in those jurisdictions is placed upon a constitutional foundation, or until it shall otherwise be ordered by the proposed temporary Provincial Congress.
        9. That the persons who have accepted seats within those individual jurisdictions have acted in direct violation of the duty they owe their country, and, have hereby given great and just over fence to this people. Therefore. Resolved, that this country recommends to all persons who have highly offended by accepting their respective positions within said governments under an oath to the Constitution of the United States of America, have therefore by defiling their oath of office and who have not voluntarily resigned their positions through bona fide resignations within 30 days of this instant designated by the date of this document, and that all persons neglecting to do so shall, from and after that day, be considered by this country as obstinate and incorrigible enemies of the United states of America.
        10. That no religion be established by the United States as a government religion, hereto-for let it be known that this is a Christian nation, and allows all religions to be practiced by individual right to do so. That no religious laws will supersede any of the established laws as provided in the Constitution, to this basis, the civil rights and liberties of all Americans; and therefore, as men and Christians, we are indispensably obligated to take all proper measures for our security.
        11. That whereas our enemies have flattered themselves that they shall make easy prey of this numerous, brave, and hardy people, from an apprehension that they are on acquainted with military discipline, we’ve therefore, for the honor, the defense, and his purity of this country, advise, as it has been recommended to take away all commissions from the officers of the military who refused to honor their oath to protect the citizens from harm or join the local militias that will be formed insufficient capacity for that purpose, and who, as evidenced themselves the inflexible friends to the rights of people; to use their utmost diligence to acquaint themselves with the art of war as soon as possible.
        12. That during the present hostile attitude our present government has towards its own people, notwithstanding the many insults and impressions which we must sensibly resist, yet, nevertheless, which we have at all times evidenced, we are determined to act merely upon the defensive, so long as such conduct may be vindicated by reason and the principles of self preservation, under the original Constitution, but no longer, upon reaching the goal of a truly constitutional government without corruption.

        13. That, as we understand it has been in contemplation to apprehend sundry persons of this country who have rendered themselves conspicuous in the can, depending for the violated rights and liberties of their countrymen, we do recommend, that, should such an audacious measure be put into practice, to seize and keep them safe custody every servant of the present tyrannical and unconstitutional government throughout the country, until the persons so apprehended be liberated from the hands of our adversaries, and restored safe and on injured to their respective friends and families.
        14. That, until our rights are fully restored to us, we will to the utmost of our power withhold all commercial intercourse with our federal government and manufacturers, with such additions, alterations and exceptions only as the interim provisional government may agree to.
        15. That the exigencies of our public affairs demand the need for a temporary provisional Congress be established, to concert such measures, as may be adopted and vigorously executed by the whole people; recommend that each state to choose members for such a provisional Congress, to convene at the earliest possible moment, after the removal of the present federal government.
        16. That this country confiding in the wisdom and integrity of the temporary provisional government, will pay all due respect, and submission to such measures as may be recommended by the provisional governments in the several states, for the restoration and establishment of are just rights, civil and religious, and for renewing the harmony and union according to the Constitution and Bill of Rights between the several states, and We The People, so earnestly wished for by all good men.
        17. Whereas the universal uneasiness which prevails among all orders of men, arising from the wicked and oppressive measures of the present administration, may influence some on thinking persons to commit outrage upon private property, we would heartily recommend to all persons of our country, not to engage in any routes, riots, or licentious attacks upon the properties of any person whatsoever, as being subversive of all order and government, but, by a steady, manly, uniform and persevering opposition, to the covenants of our enemies, that, in a contest so important, in a cause so solemn, our conduct shall be such as to merit the approbation of the wise, and the admiration of the brave and free of every age and of every country.
        18. That should our enemies, by any sudden maneuvers; render it necessary for us to ask the aid and assistance of our brethren in the country, it will be requested by the respective provisional state government to other provisional state governments to come to their aid until sufficient assistance is obtained, and remain until the threat has been rendered moot.

    2. Unfortunately People have always benefited for others hard work, but don’t them stop us from supporting & joining the winning team!!

  3. It’s nice to see people, with the training to do so, have stood up and supported/furthered the righteousness of this stand. I can hardly blame people for being hesitant to stand with them since most in this country do not value our rights and willingly walk into slavery– at times even begging for it.

    If you’re wondering why people are so ignorant of the sacrifices it took to start and maintain this Republic, look no further than the public school system.

  4. Nice try Stuart! The Oathkeepers had NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS,! You and the Oath Keepers couldn’t distance yourselves from all of this fast enough. Now you come in and try to get some credit for what the PPN did? I don’t think so

    1. Heartland Hawk,

      If you bothered to do your research, Joseph Rice and the Josephine County Oath Keepers are with the PPN. Watch the video. Joseph Rice is right there.

      Also, it is Stewart, not Stuart.

      Shorty Dawkins

      1. And Brandon Rapolla is also an Oath Keeper and serves as our OR CPT Coordinator. He is there too. And, finally, you do know that PPN is a coalition of groups, don’t you? And the JOCO chapter of Oath Keepers is part of that coalition? It was a PPN operation, but that included some of our members, and we fully support it. And, SGM Joseph Santoro, who serves on our National BOD an is our National Operations NCO, is there, on the ground, as well. We are doing what we can to avoid a Waco situation. We are not taking part in the armed sit-in occupation, but we do support the mission, and we want to see their safety and due process rights preserved.

  5. Don’t be fooled. The FBI is laughing at you. Your dialogue at the FBI’s site entry point has been rehearsed years ago when the EXACT SAME meeting took place at the Freeman’s siege in Jordan, Montana. The people you are discussing conditions with are worker bees who have no authority to do anything. They are nothing but talk. Don’t be deceived.

  6. Any federal agency who comes out in full battle attire is no friend gf the American people they are traitors against there people and nation, as far as the FBI is concerned it has become a rogue group of corporate protecting contractors paid by our tax dollars . These lower then scum Bilge agency of puke face pieces of trash are a lawless bureaucracy. the day will come when this group along with other patriot groups will have to take the murdering thugs out for once and for all. these people are not on the side right any longer, they are on the side of evil and its evil they represent in its full brutality.

  7. First off let me say, this isn’t meant to be a pregodise remark, but did you notice how fast and how hyped the black guy came in to the mix. Now I remember how they made such a fuse about Cliven using the word negro. With all thats going on in Ferguson and Baltimore, do you really think this hyped up man was an accident. Good for the negotiators for reaching out a hand to this man and defusing it . Soros is mad but I am proud of the 3% for the way they handled themselves in that situation. skin color has no place in this and Brandon handled it supremely. Just an outside observation

    1. Sir, I think the word you are looking for is “prejudiced”. I don’t think the (ethnic/ or black) agent was doing anything other than his job. Cliven Bundy grew up in a different era when “Negro” was a polite and socially accepted term devoid of derogatory connotations. One outstanding Oath Keeper onsite, “Charlie Delta”, who happens to be black was quick to point out that he had many conversations with Cliven Bundy, and that Mr. Bundy is not racist. Many older citizens still use the term “Oriental” because as many people grow older you tend be less exposed to constantly evolving social conventions of the younger generations, particularly with regard to whatever the politically correct language du’jour.

  8. I hope this ends peaceful, I watched the events unfold in Waco on me & my wife’s Anniversery. It was was really bad thing. I hope cooler heads prevail. Please keep the dialogue going.I hope local politics ease the tensions. I also feel that federal goverment has to much power and over reaching power on the states. Even with the coverups. This country had 1 civil war over states rights lets hope it does not occure again. GOD BLESS THIS COUNTRY & IT”S PEOPLE FOR AT LEAST FOR STANDING FOR WHATS RIGHT

  9. Complex are the problems facing We, the People. Economic, political, social and other aspects of life in the USA. My belief is that an unholy alliance between government and moneyed interests, monolithic corporations and the many associations and organizations owned and operated by an elite class who use an army of well-paid well-indoctrinated lackeys to do the grunt work that keeps a few lording over the many… the We, the People of whom many are feeling a growing sense of dissatisfaction with our lives and the outside forces we have no control over.

    We are in dire need of a new cohort of extra-qualified folks of the caliber of the original Founders to guide our efforts. While awaiting for those folks I wonder if this organization and its goals MAY be useful with guiding our efforts:

    Convention of States

    A snippet from their Web site:

    “One path leads to the escalating power of an irresponsible centralized government, ultimately resulting in the financial ruin of generations of Americans. The other path leads to the restoration of liberty and an American renaissance.

    The correct path can be found within Article V of the United States Constitution.

    The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

    – Article V, U.S. Constitution”

    Something to consider.

    1. An Art V is absolutely the worst thing that could be done. Politicians not following the US Constitution is what got us in this mess but you’re going to trust those very same politicians to monkey with our founding documents? The very proposition is INSANE.

      Please don’t be duped by Mark Levin and his idiotic ideas. Give this a read, please, before you go any further with your Art V thinking.

  10. The storm seems to be here. The most important concern for me is that the patriot groups have the support of the local community. If not, the liberal media will paint us as a fringe element in society. This will be a conflict on many levels and we must paint ourselves as patriots in opposition to a rogue/tyrannical government, not a fringe group that Americans must be protected from by a responsible/representative government. In opposing tyranny, it not only is iimportant to fight., but to fight smart. Our opposition has had years to refine and perfect their tactics and methods. Just saying…

  11. Don’t be fooled, those FBI agents want to kill Ammon Bundy and friends. What many here have not realized is that negotiation with the Federal Government and its representatives is a pipe dream. Ask anyone who has ever entered into a treaty with the same. Tyrants and their obsequious boot licking representatives, like these FBI agents, have no conscience, therefore, reasoning with them is futile. They will obey orders like automatons. There is no peaceful resolution to this. It falls one of two ways and already has gone their way to a certain extent, the Hammonds being unjustly jailed under double jeopardy. Bundy and friends are next. The thugs in the FBI, BLM, and Military Special Ops should be told in no uncertain terms to leave or be forced to leave. Those low-lives don’t even deserve a hand-shake from us because they are oath violating scum bags.

  12. Blah, blah, blah. Have any of you arm-chair patriots taken a look at the TOE of a Stryker Brigade? There is enough firepower at Ft. Lewis, WA to take out every damn “militia” in the country without breaking a sweat and without the help of the Air Force and Marines. Don’t think for one minute that they won’t fire on American citizens if ordered to do so. It’s happened before and, if necessary, will happen again.

    Mr. and Mrs. Average American looks at you and sees not patriots, but rather Meal Team 6 in cammo, playing at Army. Nobody who is not already a member of your seditious network is going to support you in any effort you make to “take back” the country. There are plenty of recently retired soldiers who would be more than happy to have the righteous opportunity to shoot your sorry asses.

    1. You’re obviously not the brightest diamond in the cluster. As a matter of fact, it’s evident you’re a far cry from the cluster. You keyboard wanna-be commando.

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