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Press Release: Operation Big Sky: Lincoln, Montana

 

 

Oath Keepers National

Oath Keepers Greet The Public at Lincoln, Montana

 

Joseph Santoro, Commander of Operation Big Sky, and Mary Emerick, Public Information Officer for Josephine County, Oregon, Oath Keepers, hold a press conference for the citizens of Lincoln, Montana. Here is the official Operation Big Sky press release, followed by Jason Van Tatenhove’s video footage of the Open Town Meeting.  Jason Van Tatenhove provides multi-media publicity for Oath Keepers and is our national public information officer.

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PACIFIC PATRIOTS NETWORK

 

PRESS RELEASE Immediate Release

Saturday August 8, 2015

Pacific Patriot Network – Oath Keepers – III%

 

The Pacific Patriot Network, under the leadership of the Oath Keepers, remains operational in
the Lincoln, Montana area. We are committed to securing the mine site of George Kornec and
Phil Nappo, owners of Intermountain Mining LLC, which was requested due to threats to their
mining venture. There is a dispute between the actions taken by the United States Forest
Service and the miners. Our goal has been and will continue to be to secure that area from
threats until a legal action takes place within the court system.

Thursday evening the community was invited to an informal meeting to discuss any concerns
that they had about Operation Big Sky. There was a small number of people in attendance and
many local media reporters. The concerns that were raised included impact upon the DEQ
reclamation project, which employs approximately 50 community members, as well as questions
about the actual security team itself. An agreement has been reached with the DEQ Project
Manager regarding travel routes and times. There will be no interference with this project. The
community was assured that our security team is made up of highly trained professionals and
would only be operating within the mine area itself.

On Friday a meeting took place between the Sheriff and Under Sheriff of Lewis and Clark
County and the on site leadership of Operation Big Sky. During this meeting questions were
raised from both parties and information shared. Operation leadership was pleased with the
outcome of this meeting.

At this date and time operation leadership has had no contact with the US Forest Service. We
are aware that the Forest Service knows of this operation due to media references.

Mary Emerick * Josephine County Oath Keepers Public Information Officer * pio@oathkeepersjoco.com

Jason Van Tatenhove * Oath Keepers National Public Information Officer * jason@oathkeepers.org

Chris McIntire * Idaho III% Public Information Officer * pio@iiipercentidaho.org

(end press release)

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Jason Van Tatenhove’s video coverage of Joseph Santoro and Mary Emerick during the public meeting at Lincoln, Montana —

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Elias Alias

Editor in Chief for Oath Keepers; Unemployed poet; Lover of Nature and Nature's beauty. Slave to all cats. Reading interests include study of hidden history, classical literature. Concerned Constitutional American. Honorably discharged USMC Viet Nam Veteran. Founder, TheMentalMilitia.Net

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23 comments

  1. God Bless You all for your onsite support of these miners and their rights.
    I was with you at Galico and I’m with you in spirit.
    “Old Gook”
    State of Jefferson

    1. You ain’t so old Gook ! This is Neil, cook at Sugar Pine. Isn’t it magnificent the way we are restoring the rule of law with our own hands! Perhaps like you,I had to make some tough choices and pass on this one. Still though I wonder how many of the Sugar Pine/Bundy gang are there. I well up with pride when I see the way Joseph and Mary handled the interview – they certainly demolish all the libtard BS about “Vigilantes” and the rest. So you are SoJ ! me too. Hope to see you at the “Next” one.

  2. Maybe if the gentlemen in West Virginia sent in a picture of a gold mine in the background they would receive some assistance in enforcing the fact that their state’s three (3) branch’s of government are in total default and dishonor to where the law of necessity can be invoked to have them all arrested with lawful civil authority. Or would it take having a bunch of stray cows running around? “roll eyes”

    Go here to see what I’m referring to: http://hudok.info/index.php/legal-filings-and-responses/

    I really don’t get it!

  3. A reminder: my comments are never representative of Oath Keepers as an organization or anybody involved with Oath Keepers. They are MINE. I would be pleased if others agree but my comments appearing here and elsewhere regarding anything Oath Keepers are mine alone.

    I detect growing levels of tyranny within all levels of USA governance. I am also concerned about the increasing collusion between the corporate system and political processes. My concerns have been voiced by many folks whose minds are far superior to mine. Thank you to Oath Keepers and other organizations that are standing up for the common folks; the individuals unable to influence politicians, bureaucrats and the government as a whole as those with immense wealth and power can do. Tyranny is among us and We, the People must stand up to tyrannical forces that seem determined to alter the USA into their fiefdom with tyrants as our overlords.

  4. What exactly are you protecting the mine from? Sounds like you are not needed or wanted by anyone other than mine owners who should be dealing with this through legal means. This is grandstanding and has the potential for escalation. The rule of law and legal process is what we should be standing up for and the mine owners have avenues for this. Patrols?????

    1. Patriots are protecting this mine against Federal intrusion where Federal jurisdiction does not lawfully apply. We who live and love on the land are damned-well tired of Federal management of State lands and private lands and our private lives. Perhaps you are an exception, perhaps you’re one who wants to be controlled by external authorities. If that is the case, you’re certainly reading at the wrong website. I will elucidate.

      “Legal” means, as you allude above, is not necessarily “Lawful” means. All Codes and Statutes and Treaties must be pursuant to the Constitution which binds our nation, or they are not “laws” at all. It’s just that simple. Oath Keepers is most definitely ensuring that the “rule of law” is adhered to, and I can assure you that were we not there the law would be abused by the Forest Service, just as the BLM was abusing the law in southern Nevada last year and at the Sugar Pine Mine in Oregon this year. Always remember — just because an idiot has a government job does not mean he will always act lawfully. A classic example of that is Oliver North, who ended up being one of the biggest drug dealers in American history, all while claiming to be upholding “the law”. If you don’t know his personal history as a drug dealer, you can find out about that at George Washington University’s “National Security Archives”. Check it out:

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      http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB113/

      The Oliver North File:
      His Diaries, E-Mail, and Memos on
      the Kerry Report, Contras and Drugs

      National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 113
      February 26, 2004
      For further information Contact
      Peter Kornbluh: 202/994-7116
      _

      And this:
      http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/index.html

      The Contras, Cocaine, and Covert Operations
      National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 2

      For more information contact:
      202/994-7000 or nsarchiv@gwu.edu

      Washington, D.C. – An August, 1996, series in the San Jose Mercury News by reporter Gary Webb linked the origins of crack cocaine in California to the contras, a guerrilla force backed by the Reagan administration that attacked Nicaragua’s Sandinista government during the 1980s. Webb’s series, “The Dark Alliance,” has been the subject of intense media debate, and has focused attention on a foreign policy drug scandal that leaves many questions unanswered.
      This electronic briefing book is compiled from declassified documents obtained by the National Security Archive, including the notebooks kept by NSC aide and Iran-contra figure Oliver North, electronic mail messages written by high-ranking Reagan administration officials, memos detailing the contra war effort, and FBI and DEA reports. The documents demonstrate official knowledge of drug operations, and collaboration with and protection of known drug traffickers. Court and hearing transcripts are also included.

      There is also this from over at the Federated American Scientists (FAS) website:

      http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_02.htm

      Chapter 2
      United States v. Oliver L. North

      Oliver L. North, a Marine lieutenant colonel assigned to the National Security Council staff beginning in 1981 until he was fired on November 25, 1986, was the White House official most directly involved in secretly aiding the contras, selling arms to Iran, and diverting Iran arms sales proceeds to the contras.
      North, who was deputy director of political-military affairs, reported many of his activities to his superiors, National Security Adviser Robert C. McFarlane and later John M. Poindexter. He claimed to have taken much of his direction from Central Intelligence Agency Director William Casey.1
      1 See Casey chapter.
      More significantly, North testified repeatedly that he believed President Reagan was aware and approving of his activities. North was unable to offer direct proof of presidential knowledge and authorization. Both McFarlane and Poindexter, who were North’s channel to the President, have either claimed ignorance of certain of North’s activities or said they deliberately shielded the President from such details. President Reagan in written interrogatory answers to Independent Counsel also denied knowledge of North’s illegal conduct. Although the Office of Independent Counsel could not prove that President Reagan directly approved North’s criminal actions, there is no doubt that he and his national security advisers allowed North to operate with unprecedented latitude in furtherance of Administration policies.
      North was indicted in March 1988 on 16 Iran/contra charges, along with Poindexter, retired U.S. Air Force Maj. Gen. Richard V. Secord and Albert Hakim in a 23-count indictment. After the cases were severed and the central conspiracy charges were dropped due to classified-information problems, North stood trial beginning in February 1989 on 12 counts. On May 4, 1989, he was found guilty of three counts, including aiding and abetting obstruction of Congress, shredding and altering official documents, and accepting an illegal gratuity from Secord. North’s convictions were vacated on July 20, 1990, after the appeals court found that witnesses in his trial might have been impermissibly affected by his immunized congressional testimony.

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      I bring up the Oliver North criminal record to illustrate what I said above — just because someone holds a government job does not mean he will act “lawfully”, or even “legally”. (Note that “lawful” and “legal” are two different things.) BLM agents, IRS agents, DEA agents, FBI agents, ATF agents (remember “Fast and Furious, the operation by ATF which smuggled guns to the Mexican cartels?), EPA agents, NSA agents — indeed, damn near every Agency comprising the Federal behemoth contain criminal-minded individuals who have, on the record, violated “the law”. Worse, the government generally lies about it when it is caught violating the Constitution, as was the case with the Gary Francis Powers U-2 shootdown over Russia (Eisenhower), the Bay of Pigs fiasco (Kennedy), Watergate (Nixon), the Iran-Contra-Mena scandal (Reagan), the 2003 invasion of Iraq (Bush-43), and the creation of ISIS (Obama). So my question to you is:

      How do you *know* that the USFS is not prevaricating about their plans for this mine at Lincoln, Montana?
      I can tell you this much — Oath Keepers has investigated this matter much more closely than you possibly can, and we think that the miners have just cause to seek our security operation there.

      Thanks for reading,
      Salute!
      Elias Alias, editor

        1. Thank you. I’m grateful that you let me know you appreciated it. On one hand, we could say I was shooting from the hip, for I keep lots of hidden history stuff in folders and files here for “quick-draw” response.
          But on the other hand, I was “shootin’ from the heart”, for I have a love for the Jeffersonian concept of “unalienable rights” and compelled wholly toward self-ownership, personal responsibility, the freedom which befalls any man who practices those two arts, and the absolute victory over state-sponsored oppression which is coming through media persuasion, militant enforcement of government proclamation, tax-funded psychological operations assaulting the public perception, economic controls via the Federal Reserve, geo-political stresses, Agenda 21 and its ilk, etc etc etc. I did not mention a hundred and one peak moments of 20th Century history, such as Pearl Harbor, the creation of the UN, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, or the Oklahoma City bombing or the creation of the NEA or the Bank for International Settlements or NAFTA, because I have precious few minutes to respond to comments. I did think that the Ollie North scenario would carry the message adequately, for it leads to the exposure of the great government lie about the so-called “War on Drugs” which has been used to dismantle serious sections of our Constitution while brainwashing middle-class America into agreeing to consent to allow the damned government to own our bodies, citing humanitarian reasons for busting seven-hundred thousand Americans each year on marijuana charges. The scam Oliver North was running flew more than twenty tons of cocaine into Mena, Arkansas, on CIA and DEA aircraft. That’s “tons” as in 2,000 pounds per ton. A clandestine black-op layered in all sorts of plausible deniability by men who got Presidential pardons after the courts got through with them. The fact that the CIA and DEA furnished the airplanes which flew that stuff into our country to be sold in American communities shows clearly that the mechanism of government is indifferent, impersonal, cannot “think” but can “calculate” at quantum speeds nowadays, and everything it is doing by some quirk of twisted fate matches the globalists’ agenda for the 21st Century.

          Now we see in Patrick Wood’s book, Technocracy Rising, *who* is actually doing the choreography, moving the chessmen about on life’s great chessboard of nearly 200 nation-states which are controlled by economic powers we now can name outright (thanks to the Internet), and now, thanks to the incredibly brilliant journalism of Level 9 News we know in detail how they intend to dominate and control the behaviors, activity, and thought processes of seven billion organic human beings using what DJ refers to as a “Neural Net” over humanity.

          So it’s time we acknowledge that the mask has been pulled aside if not taken off completely, and we know directly what forces are behind Federal violations of its own founding legal charter. Exposing them to our good neighbors who have not yet discovered that side of the mechanism of governance is key to encouraging Americans to become self-owners in mind and body, and to question authority most when the Authority forbids it.
          Gotta run. Thank you for reading and commenting at Oath Keepers.
          Salute!
          Elias Alias, editor

      1. The bottom line is the fact that all who have signed and swore to their unlawful oath of office to the Constitution of the United States are corporate foreign agent occupiers who must renounce their U.S. citizenship via USC Chapter 11 Section 611, Title 5 USC 331, 332, 333, 22 CFR Foreign Relations 92.12-92.31, Title 8 USC 1481. Show me the true document in law that these foreign agents currently take an oath to IE: The Constitution of the United States. Hint: It’s not there because the true document in law is The Constitution for the United States of America.

        I believe the main reason these foreign agents renounce their US citizenship is due to The War Powers Act of 1933 a.k.a. The Emergency Banking Relief Act of 1933 which deems all US citizens as enemy combatants occupying conquered territory under martial rule (not to be confused with martial law). How could you have all these government agents be at war with themselves under the War Powers Act? “roll eyes” Folks, these are their words, laws, codes, edicts, congressional records, executive orders, etc., not mine.

        Another twist I would like to present here is that I feel those so adamant to once again go back to true constitutional rule of law may be kidding themselves regarding them remaining free because Article VI specifies that all treaties before and after and properly ratified by congress will or shall be the law of the land and that brings up the Definitive Treaty of Peace 1783 a.k.a. The Treaty of Paris 1783 which makes the King of England (the Crown) Arch-Treasurer and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire (The Vatican) and the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. (emphasis added)
        So, we go back to constitutional rule of law, what would keep us from continuing to be under the thumb of the Crown and the Vatican if such is implemented? Just food for thought.

    2. Murf, ALL we are doing on this security operation as well as the Sugar Pine Mine security operation in Oregon was to deny the Feds access to the property being disputed UNTIL such a time that these miners have their day in court. ALL we are doing is ensuring the miner’s 4th and 5th Amendment rights are honored. Once they have their day in court and the court has ruled in the affirmative or dissent, it is OVER and we go home.
      Obviously you are not aware of what the BLM as well as the USFS have done on many occasions without affording the opposing parties their right to due process. They/we are going through legal means. We are not simply saying OK, we are denying the feds access just because. If the miners are found to be liable and what the USFS wants to do is deemed constitutional, then so be it…….

    3. A lot of people are not aware that the US Constitution puts LIMITS on those who serve within the general (federal) government regarding the land they may own, the land they may buy when needed, and what that land use MUST be for.

      That those who serve within the federal government held the territories in TRUST until states were created within them. Once those “new” states had designated their boundaries and got their REPUBLICAN form of government up and running the land within those territories within the boundaries of the new state became the people of that states land.

      That the states retained their sovereign governments, but that they MUST be republican in form.

      James Madison, Federalist 39: “Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body, independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act. In this relation, then, the new Constitution will, if established, be a FEDERAL, and not a NATIONAL constitution.” (It was established.)

      Yes, it IS in writing.

      Thomas Jefferson: “Our peculiar security is in the possession of a written Constitution.”

      James Madison: “Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government.”

      US Constitution, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17: “To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States (Washington DC), and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;”

      Article 4, Section 4: “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.”

      Over the decades since our nations founding those serving within the general government decided that they wanted to retain the land instead of turning it over to the states as required by the US Constitution which delegates their authority. That is theft and unconstitutional. It also qualifies as at least one felony and the crime of perjury (for breaking their Oaths), and makes those who serve/served within our government no longer meet the requirements of the position they occupy.

      It is always important when one has employees to know what the contract they are under says or one will be taken advantage of, may I recommend reading the US Constitution and the Constitution of your state (Highest LAW of that state except where it conflicts with the US Constitution – the supreme LAW of our nation).

      Be careful of the ones online as I have found a few to have been illegally re-written.

  5. I wonder if you all are aware of UN Sustainable Development Agenda 21 being implemented by Obama? The plan deals with Environment, Economy & Equity. The excuse is global warming/climate change but the real reason is for a Communist one world government or total control over everything, especially humans, This agenda is the reason for taking over as much land as they can & herding humans into the towns & cities (they can control you easier). But if you don’t know about this (no one reports on this at all) even the liberals are against this when they learn about it democratsagainstunagenda21.com

    1. Hey Senior 74, just call me Senior 70, okay? 😉
      The good news for you is that we have been cautioning people about Agenda 21 since this website was created in 2009. I have listed the democratsagainstunagenda21 website in the resources section of the Oath Keepers Academy. Here is that link for readers —

      http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/

      I saw her video, went to her site, and am happy to support her work. She is doing great work on the “Left” side of the aisle, and I salute her for that.

      Also, I’ve been lucky enough to meet Michael Shaw of Freedom Advocates —

      http://www.freedomadvocates.org/

      But please let me introduce you to an article written about a couple of months ago here at Oath Keepers, and I will actually push you hard to make time for yourself to read this and watch the long video the article contains. Here is your next level, Friend:

      https://oathkeepers.org/technocracy-rising-patrick-wood-on-caravan-to-midnight/

      Enjoy. Thank you for reading and commenting here at Oath Keepers. Keep on spreading the word about A-21.
      Salute!
      Elias Alias, editor

  6. I’m choking up here. I have to say that I could not have chosen a better organization to belong to than Oath Keepers. I am so very proud to be counted among such true and dedicated patriots as Stewart and Elias and the rest of you. God bless you all and may we prevail in the restoration of our constitutional republic.
    GO OATH KEEPERS…!!!!

  7. Thanks for the thoughtful response. I think everyone is aware that abuses occur- in the North example I doubt that your group could of or would have done anything and fortunately the courts dealt with it. Your group has armed itself needlessly and oppose the government that appears to be following the law. Instead of adding an armed militia into the mix you could instead focus on providing legal support and a platform to increase awareness. In a country of laws that is how these battles are won. I deeply respect our veterans- but I can’t respect the approach many of you are taking here.While not perfect we have a functioning government that does not need the presence of amed militia who have appointed themselves protectors of the constitution. I hope we never do.

  8. Murf you spit in the faces of. All. Who stood against those who cross the line. Evil men always cross the line. May you not enjoy your freedoms but. Nor sound sleep. Until you wake up. On my phone. Pretext. Forgive breaks. We are just as civilized as peoplre of the past. You know they were just as shocked. Ias we are today at the evil. Madness. Why in hell should ddarkness rule this planet? It is a manifesto

  9. No spitting here Deborah. Just don’t appreciate an unregulated armed force playing cop or army when nothing happening in Lincoln calls for this response. This is my home and having you in my back yard makes me cringe. We don’t need this. Hope the court settles it and hope not to run into any of these self proclaimed patriots who are taking up arms against a government that isn’t perfect but isn’t deserving of such contempt.

  10. Then you don’t know yet, Murf. What is in your back yard, my back yard is middle eastern invasion, the cousins to each other, ancient machines operating, one 1917 cabal communist federal reserve and the other their cousins. Chasing down certain people for thousands of years. JFK warned us, he got murdered for it a week later. Think of your lineage and their future being made a minority in their own country, not just here but Sweden, UK, Australia, Canada, South Africa, and what do all these countries have in common? And convenient U.N. massive immigration chasing a certain people down to the last one. The riots and new panther party have been infiltrated by one part of this machine. In all branches of gov’t. The same George Washington defended us from, and 1860 Lincoln was one of them. Look up Khazars 740AD claiming to be what they are not yet manipulating the world. New twisted view on a bible meant for gentiles, right? Indoctrination and slaves of a machine.

  11. Not sure why the post at 14:52 appears to be from me.It is not. It is however a great example of why I am concerned about who is in my backyard and what is running through their minds.Worried about becoming a minority in my own county? No. I share this country and Americans are welcome. Splitting us up beyond that into ideology or race is wrong. As is the presence of militia with weapons in Lincoln Montana.


    [Editor’s Note: If I can carve out the time it will take, I’ll look into the post in question and let you know what happened, if something did happen, and/or if I can learn anything about it. I feel sure that no one on my staff would attempt to impersonate you, so it is likely to be someone from the “outside world”.

    On your other concerns, if you do not like the idea of Americans standing up for each other against unlawful government “authorities”, you’re probably reading at the wrong website. We are very strong in our support of the Second Amendment. And we are equally strong in questioning today’s government as to why these items in the U.S. Constitution are nowhere to be seen —

    Article I, Section 8, Clauses 15 & 16:
    [The Congress shall have Power To…]

    Clause 15: [ ] “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;”

    Clause 16: [ ] “To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;”

    Article II, Section 2, Clause 1:
    “The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States…”

    That is the highest law of the land, and that is precisely why “the government” is having hissy-fits over the success Oath Keepers is having in reminding Americans about that treasured old document. My question to you is: What is your problem with the Militia? The Highest Law of the Land requires that the several States have their Militia, and the people have the sovereign right to have their lawful Militia, and as you just read above, the damned Federal government is supposed to make sure that the States do have their Militia, that the Militia may be called forth when necessary. So what could your problem actually be, if not the sad condition of being unpatriotic, irresponsible, and a worshiper of Gov over God?

    Again, if you are worried about loyal patriotic Americans openly carrying personal defense weapons, you may be reading at the wrong website. I am not condemning your view, but I am questioning your insult, the insult that is implied by your words above,
    “…I am concerned about who is in my backyard and what is running through their minds.”

    Oath Keepers membership is comprised of mature, experienced, qualified, knowledgeable, inspired and inspiring individual Americans. We have many members of color who have served honorably in the military or on police forces or in Sheriff Departments or firefighter forces. It is downright insulting for you to come here where our members read, and imply that there is something to be worried about when Oath Keepers stand for property rights for one of your good neighbors. I mean, like, really Dude. Be sensitive, yes? I was not at Lincoln, but I’ll bet you a six pack to your six-shooter that not one Oath Keeper’s boot has touched or bent a single blade of grass in your “back yard”. If you’re a nervous type and don’t even like patriots and Constitutionalists in your vicinity, your County, or your State, I’m to deduce soon enough that you will want us out of your Country as well. Why are you even commenting here? I’m just asking. You are welcome to read here, but I’m curious why you would want to. But whatever your motive for reading here, I’d like to offer you an article to read while you’re here —

    https://oathkeepers.org/the-clue-in-the-two-letter-word/

    Enjoy,
    Salute!
    Elias Alias, editor]

  12. Editor thank you for your response and questions. I will try to provide a brief answer or two but let me first say my intent is not to insult anyone- merely to find out more and express my concerns. Sort of related to another one of those amendments we all appreciate. As to the questions: I came to the site to learn more about the people who came here with guns who appear to be prepared to battle with our government and who like it or not are a bit intimidating with guns, camo and are not out for a hunt. Some of the comments that resulted show a few well intended individuals with strong beliefs. However, a few of the comments indicate beliefs that are beyond strong and border on scary, conspiracy and extremist to the majority of folks. My “insult” you mentioned was in response to a poster indicating that I am spitting in the face or those who give a damn and that I should be concerned about becoming a minority. Other comments reflect some unique, if not selective interpretations of the constitution. I am not a constitutional scholar but I can read. Your selections imply that the founding fathers called for a militia that was serving the government- not opposing it (art 2, sec 2, clause 1). Your own cite goes on to cite reasons such as suppressing insurrection. That sort of sounds like what you are promoting when you take up arms to prevent the forest service (part of our government) from accessing land that the courts will eventually determine ownership of. What is going through the heads of people that show up in Lincoln or Ferguson armed and not under the control of any official group is relevant. Based on the comments I read above and a few isolated incidents where Oath keepers have had legal issues and the fact that gun-toting free lancers are not always under tight control I have a right to be concerned. Concerned is different than nervous. Had your group come in offering press and legal resources to help a friend and not armed patrols my outlook would be different. Yours is not the militia the founders intended- it is not well- regulated or serving the state. There is a place for arms and a strong presence and show of strength. It sure isn’t staring down the forest service in Lincoln MT. It is not my intention to stir up trouble on your site or insult those in your group who may have served with honor. Unfortunately there are always some in the ranks who go a bit farther or would if they had the means. The next Timothy McVeigh, Oliver North or former Lincoln resident Ted Kaczynski has a heck of a lot more in common with your group than they do with the average citizen or go erment employee.That does make me nervous.

  13. Murf and editor. I noticed my comment. Had murf.f also but i believe it was my typo when aaddressing mufr. It was vety late when i commented. Plus i am tired

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