March 30th, 2014

Gun Owners Conclusively Believe That ATF Is Illegally Compiling A Registration List


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This article comes from Gun Owners of America.

After conducting a nationwide poll over the weekend — where more than 10,000 respondents took part — there is no doubt that American gun owners do not trust the agency that is empowered to enforce firearms law.

The overwhelming results show that 98.1 percent of gun owners who responded to the unscientific survey believe that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is illegally compiling a registration list.

Gun Owners of America will be sharing these results with the Congress, and this comes at a very appropriate time — as the House of Representatives will soon be turning its attention both to ATF’s funding and to limits on its activities.

There are many anecdotal examples that would indicate that ATF is trying to compile a registry of gun owners, and GOA has previously reported on these here and here.

GOA provides additional detail regarding the Ares Armor story

GOA received some comment mail over the weekend in regard to how one could buy a lower receiver and legally turn it into a functioning firearm which has no serial number.

We would like to address this issue again, because some contested the lack of detail that we provided in our previous alert.  (Sadly, this can be a problem when trying to shorthand a technical issue in a political alert — where explaining technical milling operations is not the main focus of the alert.)

So to review, a person can legally purchase what is commonly known as an 80% lower receiver of an AR-15 which has no serial number, and after completing the machine work, can enjoy it for personal use.(1) This lower receiver — if it does not have the required holes drilled and cavities milled in specific locations — is NOT considered a “firearm” by the ATF.

To make it a functioning firearm, one must first drill several holes, mill out the frame where the trigger group fits and in some cases mill out the magwell.  Once they finish doing this, they have what ATF considers a firearm. Although to make it a functioning firearm, a person will need to buy all the parts to finish the lower receiver and add an upper receiver to complete the gun.

By the way, it is the milling and drilling operation that several of you felt we should have discussed.  We didn’t discuss it in the alert because this information was provided in some detail in the interview that GOA Executive Director Larry Pratt conducted with Ares Armor owner, Dimitri Karras.  (Again, this is the interview that ran this past Saturday and can be heard in the archives here.)

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8 Responses to “Gun Owners Conclusively Believe That ATF Is Illegally Compiling A Registration List”

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    Dave Says:

    Quote from article
    “So to review, a person can legally purchase what is commonly known as an 80% lower receiver of an AR-15 which has no serial number, and after completing the machine work, can enjoy it for personal use.(1) This lower receiver — if it does not have the required holes drilled and cavities milled in specific locations — is NOT considered a “firearm” by the ATF.”
    The fact that the ATF wants customer info of everyone purchasing an 80% lower tells me they are completing a comprehensive gun registry. Why would they need the customer list of persons purchasing parts not considered guns? They have no way to track these gun parts destined to become firearms so they can use the customer list to build that data set. There is no doubt they are building a comprehensive list of gun owners.

  2. 2
    Jarine Says:

    After living almost 50 yrs, looking at lived history if You believe they are making this list. It is already made.

    Semper Fi!

  3. 3
    Charlie BROWN Says:

    After insta-check they are supposed to do away with these records. The key words here are “supposed to” how often does the guv tell us the truth? I’d have to say close to never. I have no doubts that they have records on all legal transactions.

  4. 4
    Chuck Saint Says:

    The government, particularly this administration, has shown itself to be what can only be considered a criminal institution itself. The government has also fostered one abuse after another against the very people it is supposed to serve; eg Benghazi coverup, IRS abuses, Obamacare, and EPA abuses. There is no doubt in my mind that, sitting somewhere in someone’s office, is a listed of who owns a firearm or firearms,of what type, and what political leanings that person has. I’m a firm believer of the old adage that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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    csaaphill Says:

    it’s called form 4473
    they periodically pick them up from gun stores, or face prosecution.
    other such things I have ben told that people with stollen guns have gotten them back after a long time. How’d the cops know
    ding ding ding
    THe point of sale!

  6. 6
    Cal Says:

    “The government, particularly this administration, has shown itself to be what can only be considered a criminal institution itself.”

    The correct word is “treasonous”. This government, and its administration are traitors to the USA. Actually so was Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, and all of their administrations.

    Thankfully there is NO time limit on prosecuting constitutional crimes of any sort. But admittedly I am very tired that we still have not gone ahead with charges, arrests, and court prosecutions. (Yes, Eliaas – kicked out from another constitutional law class. /sigh. It is very hard for me to not correct the Y— “teacher” (and I am being kind when I use that term) when he calls the USA a “democracy”. then lectures for 3 weeks on the written Constitution – getting most of it wrong as the framers and the writings of the time show – and the rest of the class is on the “unwritten” Constitution which does NOT exist except in traitors to the USA minds.
    So I am nagging again.)

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    Cal Says:

    Oh, and of course they are keeping a list of gun owners. They want to destroy the USA and they MUST do it by taking our weapons. It is why they worked so hard to destroy each state’s Militia.

    “If you have given up your militia, and Congress shall refuse to arm them, you have lost every thing. Your existence will be precarious, because you depend on others, whose interests are not affected by your infelicity.” Patrick Henry

    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known, and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor. He speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in hearts of men. He rots the soul of a nation. He works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city. He infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A Murderer Is Less To Be Feared.” Cicero

    ”The United States should get rid of its militias”. Joseph Stalin, 1933

    Vladimir Lenin:
    - “The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”
    - “One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”
    - “A lie told often enough becomes the truth.”
    - “Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.”
    - “The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them in parliament.”
    - “The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency.”
    - “The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.”
    - “Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.”
    - “Democracy is indispensable to socialism.”
    - “It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed.”

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    D B Says:

    How else would that Maryland cop know…that the guy from Florida had a CC Permit? Pulled him over and ask, “Where’s your GUN?…Molon Labe!

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