December 20th, 2013

Making a Killing: The Untold Story Of Psychotropic Drugging – Full Movie (Documentary)


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If you have never seen this documentary, I encourage you to do so. For your family’s sake, and for your sake, watch it. Your time cannot be better spent. I will provide the youtube link, rather than posting the actual video here, to preserve bandwidth, as it is 1:34:43 long. Take the time to watch it, please. It contains a great amount of information, some of which will shock you. – Shorty Dawkins, Associate Editor

The Untold Story of Psychotropic Drugging




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    smooze1775 Says:

    this is one reason my family and i refuse to get flu shots every year.

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    ApoloDoc Says:

    I am shocked that OK would link to (as well as recommend) a video produced by the “Church” of Scientology! These clowns will take all of your money to teach you how to have magical powers. If you progress far enough in Scientology, you can levitate! Yeah, there is no such thing as mental illness…right! L Ron Hubbard was a hack of a science fiction writer, and founded an incredibly dangerous organization.

    Oath Keepers: please be a bit more informed before recommending materials produced by the Scientologists. Scientology is closer to a terrorist organization than just a cult. Do a bit of background research from some who have separated from that group. Learn a little about their secure compound in the desert where they actually keep “employee” hostage.

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    Elias Alias Says:

    ApoloDoc,
    I’m in the middle of viewing this video, which was posted by one of my associate editors. So far, I’ve not seen any reference to Scientology. Believe me, I’m no fan of Scientology. So please tell me how you associate this film with the Scientologists. Perhaps I’ll see the connection in the end creds of the film.
    Thank you.
    Salute!
    Elias Alias, editor

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    Ol' Rono Says:

    I watched the full presentation, and there must be a lot of truth to this, because the guy who made the comment above mine claims to be a “Psychiatrist”…

    Thank you Oath Keepers for bringing to the attention of many active duty and veterans alike of the consequences of taking “psycho” drugs, that are eagerly prescribed to the military that have already been “shot up with enought vaccines” to give any human the kind of problems that a “Psychiatrist” would love to treat.

    And you Apollo Doc, for bringing up a “straw-man” argument about this documentary, should have a substantial dose of your own medicine!

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    Matt Says:

    This was produced by the Scientologists. One of their beliefs is to not have any drugs legal or illegal in your system.

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    Matt Says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_Commission_on_Human_Rights

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    ApoloDoc Says:

    Fine, have it your way. Don’t listen to someone with 30 yrs experience, who has written about the problems of big pharma, and who has studied Scientology and interviewed people who have escaped. Anyone who denies the existence of mental illness has lived an extremely sheltered life. Odds are that you have friends and family who have received help from psychotropic meds.

    Do they help everyone? No.
    Do some of them have troubling side effects? Yes.
    Can a person make a reasoned decision about the cost/benefit of biological treatment? Certainly.
    Do all patients with emotional problems need medication? No.

    Try working in an emergency receiving facility and see someone brought in handcuffed by cops because he is violent and out of control. He is ranting about things that make no sense. He has a history of prior psychotic episodes. He is given a medication, and in a few days is rational and tremendously appreciative for the help. His family sends you a thank you letter a week later. The person has resumed his normal life.

    Yeah, forget all of that. This is JUST about money for big pharma…or “mind control”! Join scientology, give them all of your money. Have training and let the “auditor” ‘help’ you. End up acting like Tom Cruise. Much better solution. Thank you for enlightening me.

    Scientology has been the largest anti-psychiatry activist organization on the planet for decades. DO YOU TRUST THEM? Even without knowledge of psychiatry, look into that organization. Do some reading from some of the counter-cult teachers. Craig Branch is an excellent resource. Read up on Karen Pressley and her experiences / escape from Scientology.

    ApoloDoc, my name is Elias Alias. I am the content editor of this website. I am going to insert my responses to you as bolded type following various sections of your comment. You have said:
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    Fine, have it your way.

    Spare me the temper tantrums, okay? But btw, to what comment by myself are you reacting? I have not posted a decision regarding the presence of this video on our site, so why are you exclaiming “Fine, have it your way”? I have now viewed the entire film, and have read the wikipedia page on CCHR, and agree that Scientology was behind the production of the video. While the producers of that film are Scientologists, my question is not so much “who” made the film as “are they correct?” There is a lot of testimony by people whom I judge to be competent and educated individuals. Take for example, Mike Adams. I know him through his work, and I appreciate his knowledge. I would be shocked if Mike were to be a “closet member” of the Church of Scientology. I’ve got a sneaky little hunch that hardly any of the experts featured in the film are members in Scientology.

    Don’t listen to someone with 30 yrs experience,

    Did I say I would not listen? What’s got your panties in such a wad? Tell us about your 30 years of experience. Experience in what, exactly?

    who has written about the problems of big pharma,

    So you do admit that Big Pharma is quite the problem in America and the world. That’s a start. Have you written about “who” created the governmental/political/socio environment which allowed Big Pharma to become Big Pharma? Have you written about Ernst Rudin, Hitler’s Eugenicist who was funded across the 1930s and through World War II by the Rockefeller Foundations? Have you written about from whence the authority may have derived which produced a U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and/or a Food and Drug Administration? Have you written about “monopoly-capitalism”? Have you written about the fact that the American Historical Society, the Federal Reserve System, and National Education Association, and other current problems facing Americans, were created by the same group of elite powers which gave us the FDA? Do post some of your writings, that we can all come to see your wisdom.

    and who has studied Scientology and interviewed people who have escaped.

    I am offering no defense for Scientology. I personally denounce all religions, for I am an Agnostic. Yet I fight to protect religious freedom, especially for the besieged Christians in today’s America, who are under severe attack by the idiot progressive humanist socialist statists. Please elaborate about “people who have escaped” (Scientology).

    Anyone who denies the existence of mental illness has lived an extremely sheltered life.

    I have no doubt that some people suffer from mental illness. I do not deny that mental illness exists. But I also think that what Big Pharma is doing at the expense of American society and culture is a horrendous crime, a dastardly deception targeting “we the people”. I think that the lion’s share of mental illness, as “mental illness” is diagnosed today, is not mental illness at all. Further, I submit that spirituality (as opposed to ‘religion’) is a better cure than any man-made pill or drug which masks-over the causes while subduing the symptoms only. Naturopathy, holistic medicine, herbology, spiritual psychology are my preferred ways of handling most conditions which Big Pharma calls “mental illness”. Would you like to hear an accounting of my experiences in the psyche ward of the Veterans Administration Hospital at Memphis, Tennessee, in the late 1980s? While assuring me that I could not possibly have PTSD, the VA offered me all the free Lithium I would want (which I declined).

    Odds are that you have friends and family who have received help from psychotropic meds.

    Nope. Fortunately, only a very few people I know personally have bought into what the Shrinks recommend. My friends who have taken the pills have only negative reports for having done so. But you see, my friends “believed” in their damned doctors long enough to allow themselves to be subjected to drug therapies. None of them who have been on psych drugs have anything good to report. Neither do I. I was forced to take a psych drug while in the VA hospital. It turned me into a foot-shuffling zombie on the first night I was enrolled there. After that night, I learned quickly to tongue the damned pills and spit them down the toilet after leaving the nurse’s station.

    Do they help everyone? No.

    Agreed.

    Do some of them have troubling side effects? Yes.

    I think that the movie treated the subject of “side effects” very well. I’ve seen the damned pharmaceutical ads on tv. I’m aghast! But let me ask you the bombshell question of the day – do you recall American life during the 1960s and 1970s? Were there any mass shootings at schools back in those days, you know, the days before kids were being pumped full of pharmacological concoctions called psych drugs? Can we be expected, really, to ignore the coincidence of mass shootings throughout our society as they correlate in time with the advent of mind-altering psych drugs?

    Can a person make a reasoned decision about the cost/benefit of biological treatment? Certainly.

    Yes, if he is, as the movie points out, “fully informed”.

    Do all patients with emotional problems need medication? No.

    My guess is that almost all of them do not need medication as prescribed by Big Pharma’s loyal doctors. A few, yes; most, no.

    Try working in an emergency receiving facility and see someone brought in handcuffed by cops because he is violent and out of control. He is ranting about things that make no sense. He has a history of prior psychotic episodes. He is given a medication, and in a few days is rational and tremendously appreciative for the help. His family sends you a thank you letter a week later. The person has resumed his normal life.

    I would not dispute the scenario as you paint it. I did a year and a half of weekly in-country-vets-only group meetings at the Vet Center in Memphis during the late 1980s. I’ve got Viet Vet friends who have been just that violent – including one man who repeatedly awakened from sleep whilst choking his wife as he dreamed of actions back in the ‘Nam, and another friend who had to be subdued after burning down his girlfriend’s mobile home; and another who required over twenty police officers to curb his violence. None of them appreciated one damned pill the VA forced on them, and each of them cured himself using therapies such as the meetings I attended at the Vet Center. The guy you mentioned who had a history of psychotic episodes – they fixed him up with drugs and in a few days he was fine again, according to your description – but – did they not give him drugs during the previous episodes as well? And did he not succumb again repeatedly after being normalized by the dope, in order to achieve what you said was a history of psychotic episodes? Did the damned pills cure him, or just subdue his autonomous and central nervous systems long enough for his emotional turbulence to subside?

    Yeah, forget all of that. This is JUST about money for big pharma…or “mind control”! Join scientology, give them all of your money. Have training and let the “auditor” ‘help’ you. End up acting like Tom Cruise. Much better solution. Thank you for enlightening me.

    You don’t sound very enlightened to me. And I do not give money to any damned religion. My approach is to accept responsibility for the content of my conscious mind, regulate and censor the content of my mental states, study and learn about what a “thought” is, study the metaphysics of mentailty, and over-ride any emotional impulses which might be counter-productive to my life goals and/or my moral values, and stay in control of myself. Ever think about handling life that way, instead of running to doctors for an “external cure”? My source of mental health is best described by a concept this nation’s founders included in the Declaration and Constitution and Bill of Rights – it is the fact that I entered through the bone gates of birth into this world as a soul enmeshed in a human body, and that I came into this world with certain “unalienable rights” which included the personal responsibility required to claim ownership of those rights. You see, those unalienable rights come from a higher authority than any manmade government or corporate entity, and my exercising them is my salvation from what some would call “mental illness”. My authority is inside myself, not outside myself embodied in some cultural or social or governmental “authority”. As Humble Pie used to sing it, “I don’t need no doctor!”.

    Scientology has been the largest anti-psychiatry activist organization on the planet for decades.

    I see that as a grace upon an otherwise stupid religious cult. I am completely “anti-psychiatry” also, except for one giant in the field – the very honorable and very wise Dr. Carl Gustav Jung, whose works I’ve been reading for over forty years. I’ve even got my own copy of “The Freud-Jung Letters”. My favorite is “Basic Writings”. If you’ve not gotten yourself into Jung, I’d suggest you do so when you find the time to receive a bit of “spiritual psychology”.

    DO YOU TRUST THEM?

    I do not trust Scientology, no sir, not one bit. I do not trust any “outside” authority, neither religious nor political nor governmental nor economic nor philosophical. But I maintain that the people collected up and featured in that movie are not Scientologists, by and large. I could be wrong about that, but I see that G. Edward Griffin is in that film, and I’m certain he never fell for Scientology, nor did Mike Adams, and, as I’m intimating, neither did most if not all of the others featured. The simple truth is that grave sins are exposed in that film, and the finger of guilt points squarely at Big Pharma and the idiot Shrinks and MDs who support the AMA’s and FDA’s merciless marauding upon the American people via Big Pharma.

    Even without knowledge of psychiatry, look into that organization. Do some reading from some of the counter-cult teachers. Craig Branch is an excellent resource. Read up on Karen Pressley and her experiences / escape from Scientology.

    Got links?

    Salute!
    Elias Alias, editor

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    Shorty Dawkins Says:

    ApoloDoc,
    I am the fellow who posted the above video. While I admit to not looking further for the source of the video than the video credits, I, having discovered the source, would post it again. Nowhere in the video did I see any proselytizing for the Church of Scientology. That I have grave suspicions of Big Pharma and Psychiatry, in conjunction apparently with the Scientology people, does not negate what was presented in the documentary. You see, I don’t condemn the messenger. I listen to the message.
    You have mentioned your 30 years experience in the psychiatric field, yet you do not show us your credentials. Therefore, I consider your comments, as I would consider any other, as an opinion. We are all entitled to our opinion.
    Do I support Scientology? No. I do not support ant control system, including the control system of the psychiatric profession. Drugging a patient for life is not a cure. It is a simple masking of the symptoms. My thinking more closely aligns with that of Elias Alias. We must all search within ourselves to find the balance we seek. It will not be found with pills. I, myself, rarely take anything more than an aspirin, and aspirin very rarely. As a good friend pointed out, disease is dis-ease. The body and the mind are not in sync. A pill will not make them come together.
    I have a niece who, it was suggested by school authorities, should be put on Ritalin. Why? Because she had too much energy. My sister refused. Today, my niece runs a dance studio. I shudder to think what would have happened to her if my sister had relented and placed her on Ritalin.

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    Churchill Says:

    Modern Psychiatry, How lovely indeed. Raptured/Institutionalized quickly within the confines of Corporate, Political (mainly, Executive Branch of Government), Public Educational system, Prison system and the DoD becomes a pseudo-Science. The occasional proscription on assumption can/or will eventually cause a/or sympton-s to appear requiring supposed necessary treatments/prescriptions of which their are supposedly no known cure. Narcotic/drug use and abuse does legally co-exist quite well within the establishment though, it seems to be via the monopolization by the legality of law and/or patents. Collusion does represent Public/ Private partnership under the auspices of Government/Corporate NGO supervision and participation. Deep pockets and shallow thoughts, the innocents be wary of what they sought as to what was bought in relevance to what was naught then your caught. Their are only two paths in which to apply Intellect, Education, Thought, Research, Work, Action, or In-action, their is no middle path. As for ‘Unbiased Research” The words Bias and Prejudice are two of the most intentionally mis-led and mis-interpreted words known in the worlds vocabulary to date as Nature is dependent on it and Man is reliant on it for survival regardless of Cultures/Multi-cultures, Races, Creeds, Color, National survival etc. right down through the Individual Family Unit.

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    ApoloDoc Says:

    The video is a SPECIFIC propaganda piece. One of the doctors who appears in it has posted his objections and addressed his concerns about Scientology (which I don’t believe that he knew was involved).

    Elias, you responded as thought I were talking to you, which I was not. It was to O’Rono, so I am not sure why you got yourself so fired up. When you post “My guess is that almost all of them do not need medication as prescribed by Big Pharma’s loyal doctors. A few, yes; most, no.” you are making hostile, unsupported assertions. If you had read ANY of what I have written on the OK forums, you would have some notion of my issues w/ Big Pharma BUT might actually have some idea that I DON’T practice that way. Instead you make a few hostile mis-characterizations.

    I suspect that anyone who googles “Karen Pressley scientology” would find plenty of reading. Same for “Craig Branch Scientology”.

    Veterans with PTSD are merely one group of people with psychiatric problems. The thrust of my comment was about Schizophrenia and “real” Bipolar Disorder (not ‘mood swings’ which are now called bipolar disorder). I am talking about OUTHOUSE-RAT crazy. I am talking about the folks walking around downtown pushing a shopping cart full of garbage talking to people who are not there. That is the sort of person that we would have brought in as an emergency because they were no longer merely mumbling and walking about, they were overtly dangerous to themselves and/or other people. It is abundantly clear that none of the people posting these comments have ANY experience with such situations.

    I do not particularly feel like giving any of my credentials here. My posts are extensive on the OathKeepers forums and my personal background has been posted. I have been asked by Stewart to provide assistance on Veteran mental health issues. My efforts to educate are at times met by such hostile crap, but most actually appreciate what I write.

    No worries. I won’t bother with any more comments on the main site. I guess you need to tell Stewart that my input in these matters is not respected nor viewed as useful. Carry on!

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