Nullification? State Senator Disagrees with Jefferson And Madison
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KrisAnne Hall
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Senate President Laughs At Constitutionalist, Calls For Nullifiers To Be “Shot” & “Hanged”
December 08, 2012 * by Tim Brown
From Freedom Outpost, here:
Republican Florida State Senate President Don Gaetz showed the true face of tyrannical RINOs in the Republican Party when he openly laughed and mocked the Constitutional principles espoused by KrisAnne Hall, an attorney and former prosecutor, who supports the Tenth Amendment and the right of the States to nullify unconstitutional laws implemented by the federal government. However, it appears that Mr. Gaetz also indicated his support of the tactic of the seventh President of the United States Andrew Jackson in how he would deal with “nullifiers.” He would have them shot and hanged.
According to Mrs. Hall, she not only spoke to Gaetz, but even wrote him and explained the positions of men like James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, and Alexander Hamilton on State sovereignty. She then received what can only be explained as a violence threatening email from Gaetz to anyone that would support nullification. Here’s what Sen. Gaetz wrote:
Thank you for your email and for your passionate views.
Like you, I believe Obamacare is unconstitutional and wrong-headed policy. I have consistently voted in the Florida Legislature for legislation that affirms our state’s options, obligations and sovereignty under the United States Constitution. I am working every day to ensure the election of national candidates who will repeal and replace this extraordinarily bad policy.
As to nullification, I tend to favor the approach used by Florida’s first Governor, Andrew Jackson:
It is said that one evening, while he was president, General Jackson was interrupted in his reading in his bedroom by an alarmed military aide who breathlessly reported, “Mr. President, the “nullifiers” are in front of the Executive Mansion with torches and guns. They are screaming that each state has the right to decide for itself which federal laws to follow. They threaten to burn us down if you will not agree with them.”
Without lifting his head from his reading, Andrew Jackson said, “Shoot the first nullifier who touches the Flag. And hang the rest.”
Chaplain, I have sworn an oath on my father’s Bible before Almighty God to preserve, protect and defend the constitution and government of the United States. And that’s exactly what I intend to do. Count me with Andrew Jackson.
Senator Don Gaetz
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Apparently Senator Gaetz is completely ignorant of the Constitution concerning the Tenth Amendment, or has at best, a warped understanding of it, which leads him to threaten not only people like yours truly and Mrs. Hall, but all those who support State nullification of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) and the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).
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Here is a spirited take on the Gaetz embarrassment from Dan Johnson, Founder PANDA “People Against The NDAA” at PandaUnite.org
Quoting from that link – That’s enough, Senator. You’ve just set the constitutionalists on fire.
The Constitution gives power to the states to assert certain laws are unConstitutional, or to have whatever powers are not granted to the Federal Government. People who support this do not need to be “shot” or “hanged.”
14th Amendment, Section III:
“No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.”
Sen. Gaetz should never be able to hold office again, for comforting the enemies of the Constitution.
Nullification of unConstitutional legislation is our right.
It’s time to demand an apology from Sen. Gaetz for his ridiculous statement.
Call his office at (850)-897-5747 and DEMAND, politely and civilly, he retract his statement.
Sen. Gaetz needs to be reminded what his Oath is. His Oath is to defend our rights against all enemies, foreign and domestic….not to aid and abet them by discrediting those who stand up for the Constitution.
https://pandaunite.org/ndaa-nullifiers-should-be-shot-hanged/
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Note from Oath Keepers editor: Gaetz has insulted bluntly a very popular activist. There is no question that KrisAnne Hall is an inspired leader in the Constitution movement in America. Smart, dedicated, and very knowledgeable, she is a powerful voice. I subscribe to her newsletter. Many patriots hold her in high regard, as do I. In no way is the following meant to disparage Mrs. Hall in any way. I would, however, be delighted to disparage Senator Gaetz. I do feel that while Gaetz is another statist who betrays his Oath and displays his ignorance, he has not actually loaded the gun with which he appears to shoot himself in the foot. This instance, in my view, is a “miss”, or shooting a “blank” at one’s foot. Be that as it may, I do recommend letting Gaetz hear about this from readers and voters.
Two things. 1) I believe that Gaetz alluded to something Andrew Jackson is alleged to have said, therefore we cannot actually say, ourselves, that Gaetz has said that nullifiers should be shot and hung. That would be something of a “reach”, in my opinion. What we can say, (and this is bad enough, for sure), is that Gaetz agrees with an alleged statement which included that language – without of course our knowing the full context of Jackson’s statement; and, 2) I further think that Gaetz needs to go back and re-do his Oath, and this time he needs to leave out the “government of the United States” part. Am I right? I’ve not looked it up, yet. Correct me if I’m wrong, but my own Oath did not include any allegiance to the damned government, which, as we’ve stressed again and again here at Oath Keepers, is not the same as the Constitution. Maybe a Senator’s Oath in Florida includes “government” as an object, and equates it to the Constitution, but I doubt that. Any readers who know Florida law regarding a State Senator’s Oath, please let me hear from you by clicking on “Contact” just below our page header at top, or in a comment here. Thanks.
Oh – And one other thing – Be sure to read the first two comments under this article, comments #s 1 and 2. Great stuff there. (Thanks Austrianeconomicsarecolorblind.)
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December 10th, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Federalist paper 28:
Declaration of Independence:
Thomas Jefferson on Secession (1803)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/8508.html
Federalist paper 46:
December 10th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Nullification: Answering the Objections
http://www.libertyclassroom.com/objections/
State Nullification: What Is It?
http://www.libertyclassroom.com/nullification/
Tom Woods: Secession Vs. Nullification
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmQpAQ_Rv9U
December 12th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Jackson’s comment may be apocryphal, but what he actually did regarding nullification was just as hard-nosed and even more effective: he got the Force Bill through Congress, authorizing him to utilize whatever military force necessary to bring the Nullificationists to heel. They backed off of their own accord. Didn’t fully learn their lesson, though … until 1861-65.