April 6th, 2012

Associated Press Report on USMC Sgt. Stein’s Hearing


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Associated Press Report on USMC Sgt. Stein’s Hearing

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/04/06/business/ap-us-marine-free-speech.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

Associated Press via New York Times * April 06 2012

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Note from Elias Alias: I received a call from Stewart Rhodes, founder of Oath Keepers, at midnight on April 05, 2012, as Stewart has departing the U.S. Marine Corps’ Camp Pendleton, California, after a long day in formal hearings about charges against Sgt. Gary Stein. Stewart briefly told me that the event was very long, and that “things did not go well for Sgt. Stein”.  Stewart is now traveling across several States,  but he may furnish a recap of yesterday’s proceedings. If he does so, I’ll update this article or post a new and more comprehensive article. For the moment, we would like to make available to readers the first coverage we’ve seen today.

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CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) — A military board has recommended dismissal for a Marine sergeant who criticized President Barack Obama on his Facebook page, including allegedly putting the president’s face on a “Jackass” movie poster.

The Marine Corps administrative board said after a daylong hearing late Thursday at Camp Pendleton that Sgt. Gary Stein has committed misconduct and should be dismissed.

The board also recommended that Stein be given an other-than-honorable discharge. That would mean Stein would lose his benefits and would not be allowed on any military base.

The board’s recommendations go to a general who will either accept or deny them. If the general disagrees with the board, the case could go to the secretary of the Navy.

Stein’s lawyers argued that the 9-year Marine, whose service was to end in four months, was expressing his personal views and exercising his First Amendment rights.

“We’re truly surprised and disappointed but it was an honor to fight for a hero like Sgt. Stein and every other Marine’s right to speak freely,” Stein’s defense attorney Marine Capt. James Baehr said.

Stein addressed board members during Thursday’s hearing, tell them he loved the Marine Corps and wanted to re-enlist, Baehr said.

Baehr expressed hope that the recommendation would be rejected by the general, saying the case will go forward. “The issues are too important for this to end today,” he said.

During the hearing, the prosecutor, Capt. John Torresala, said Stein went as far as superimposing images of Obama’s face on a poster for the movie “Jackass.”

Torresala argued that Stein’s behavior repeatedly violated Pentagon policy that limits the free speech rights of service members, and said he should be dismissed after ignoring warnings from his superiors about his postings.

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Continue reading at the New York Times please:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/04/06/business/ap-us-marine-free-speech.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

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12 Responses to “Associated Press Report on USMC Sgt. Stein’s Hearing”

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  1. 1
    Freedom Warrior Says:

    Military Board Seeks Discharge of Marine for Obama Criticisms BY ALEX NEWMAN FRIDAY, 06 APRIL 2012

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/11441-military-board-seeks-discharge-of-marine-for-obama-criticism

  2. 2
    Freedom Warrior Says:

    The Organized Left’s Spring Surprise: Revealed on TV and in The Nation magazine April 7, 2012 – 10:32 am – by Ron Radosh
    http://pjmedia.com/ronradosh/2012/04/07/the-organized-lefts-spring-surprise/?singlepage=true

  3. 3
    Alielbaryeshua Says:

    OK. So let me get this right….
    Gays are allowed to openly serve in the military. Stacks of bibles are burned in Afghanistan in an effort to appease Muslim extremists. Our troops guard opium fields and oil piplines. While our boys fight Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Iraq, but the U.S. Navy openly supports Al Qaeda in Lybia via artillery and air strikes……………..

    But 1 little marine says something about the president, who still hasnt proven his elegibility to be so, gets unceremoniously thrown out of the Marine Corps?

    AN OTHER THAN HONORABLE DISCHARGE DOESNT JUST MEAN NO BENIFITS! HE WONT EVEN BE ABLE TO LAND A JOB FLIPPIN’ BURGERS A MCDONALD’S!

  4. 4
    Wagstaff Says:

    Flippin’ burgers? Naaahhh … he’s already flippin’ real estate.

    http://www.facebook.com/GarySteinHomes

    Makes one wonder about his real commitment to the Corps, now doesn’t it?

  5. 5
    Cal Says:

    to Alielbaryeshua
    Plus over his almost 4 years in office, since Obama was Chair for the UN, he and his administration has routinely cited the authority of the United Nations over the US Constitution, the United States of America.
    President Obama sent a letter to Speaker of the House John Boehner in which he boldly asserted the “Authority” of international powers over and above the US Constitution.
    Obama , Panetta, and Dempsey openly declared that they do NOT represent the American people and instead are represent a global dictatorship that has usurped the sovereignty of the United States. The Pentagon through Gen. Martin Dempsey, POTUS Obama, along with US. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta have been trying to declare a Coup D’etat (takeover by a foreign entity, person, or nation) on our Constitutional government by giving the United Nations “Supreme Authority” over the US.
    Defense Secretary Leon Panetta gave testimony (senate) asserting that the United Nations and NATO have “supreme authority” over the actions of the United States military.
    During a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing, Panetta and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey brazenly admitted that their authority comes NOT from the U.S. Constitution, but that the United States is subservient to and takes its marching orders from the United Nations and NATO.
    Sounds like TREASON to me. So how can any order (or anything else) Obama, Panetta, or Dempsye gives be legal here?
    How can anyone who criticizes him (Obama) be even be prosecuted until the Obama situation is straightened out? His legal authority is in question since his documents were proved forged. SS#’s stolen, etc.
    No one can actually, Constitutionally , LEGALLY be prosecuted until Obama is found innocent or guilty of all of it. Because if he is not legally the POTUS, nothing he does is legal. Actually what about this also?
    This week, four Democratic officials in Indiana were hit with felony charges related to petition fraud in the state’s 2008 primary. The prosecutions are a result of the local South Bend Tribune newspaper’s investigation last fall into “hundreds of county residents’ signatures” forged on petitions used to put Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on the Democratic primary ballot. At least two whistle-blowing government officials came forward to expose the forgery racket, which court documents say was formulated by Democratic Party officials inside local party headquarters.
    A veteran county Democratic Party chair, Butch Morgan, resigned in October over the scandal; three employees in the St. Joseph County voter registration office reportedly helped Morgan execute the scheme. Among the hundreds of unsuspecting residents whose names were illegally signed to the petitions: the prosecuting attorney in the case and a former Democratic governor of the state!
    Without the phony signatures, there’s a significant chance that Obama would not have qualified for the primary ballot — throwing the validity of the entire election into question.

    See, too many questions about the man occupying the Office of the President. Until they are answered no military, no court, nothing can be charged against those who refuse to obey his orders anywhere. Not legally, Constitutionally.
    Unless we allow it to happen.

  6. 6
    CB Says:

    If a million veterans each sent Sgt. Stein a letter of support and inserted a $1 bill, he could pay his lawyers, pay off his house, and write a book on the benefits of standing up for Constitution and Bill of Rights attached thereto.
    Who then who would have the last laugh?

  7. 7
    Freedom Warrior Says:

    SDS Founder, Veteran Activist Tom Hayden on Participatory Democracy from Port Huron to Occupy Wall Street
    http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/13/sds_founder_veteran_activist_tom_hayden

  8. 8
    Freedom Warrior Says:

    A Soldier’s Deck of Cards Magician Justin Flom shares the story of the Soldier’s Deck of Cards in this tribute to Veterans. He’s using the term soldier to describe all military personnel which will cause Marines to bristle as they hate to be called soldier. Well done Justin and thanks for giving the United States Marine Corps such a prominent position in your tribute story.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KGPKpIuX3cY#!

  9. 9
    vince pertoso Says:

    “Stein repeatedly violated Pentagon policy that limits the free speech rights of service
    members.”??? Helloooo Pentagon….All you bastards took an oath to protect and defend the US Constitution. Then you deny the right of free speech to American citizens who enlist to serve and defend the US Constitution! During the Vietnam error when I served I always found that outrageous and I still do. Major General Von Steuben trained the Continental Army that won our Liberty. He stated that during his training exercises American solders often questioned what he was telling them to do. They often ask him how does this or that benefit them. Von Steuben commented that European solders just did what they were told without question. My point is that we Americans are a different people from Europeans. So Pentagon if you want ottomans for solders go to Europe and join the King’s army. We-the-People will appoint new generals who love Liberty, the US Constitution and don’t find offense in solders speaking their opinions and concerns. Of course they should all follow lawful orders. Yes lawful orders, orders that are not in violation of the US Constitution or orders that suspend the US Constitution. All military has a duty to disobey orders that violate their oath to defend the US Constitution and the American People. They are not help a megalomaniac who one day gets himself elected as Commander-and-Chief and attempts to destroy the US Constitution and our Republic.

  10. 10
    Sgt. Bubbles Says:

    Let’s get our OK’ers flags out and march on the pentagon!

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