December 8th, 2011

Oath Keepers Receive Tip of National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People


The below tip was posted on the official Oath Keepers Facebook Page by user “Pat Lowe.”  We are in the process of verifying this tip, so it is as of yet unconfirmed, but we wanted you to be aware of it (it certainly would be good news for a change!).  We will post and send out updates as we confirm and verify.

Message on Oath Keepers Facebook Page:

http://www.facebook.com/groups/163945586998396

Paul Lowe

I hope you enjoy this great news as I did when I was told.

Paul Lowe

OUTSTANDING!! I just left my neighbors house. Devon is with the National Guard for this area. He just got home from a EDRE (emergency deployment readiness exercise) at the armory. He said that during the exercise 3 companies of infantry were polled by questionare about the drill and it’s purpose. One of the questions was, will you as a member of the Nat. Guard use lethal force against the American public if ordered to do so? One of the men stepped forward and refused to take the poll and explained that it was a moral judgement on his part and that he could not do so. He then placed his weapon on the ground and fell in behind the formation. Devon said it was like a waterfall, Every member layed their weapons on the deck and fell in beside the one lone specialist. This included ALL NCO’s, STAFF NCO’s and SENIOR NCO’s. The only people left in front of the original formation was 3 Capt’s. 2 Lt’s and the BN Commander who was so upset he started having chest pains from yelling and screaming about court martials and disbandment of the unit into other units. Devon is a Mstr.Sgt and he went with his troops and told them that he could not be prouder of any of them. He was floating while he was telling me this. Maybe we have more than just hope on our side. SEMPER FI. my thanks for the honor of being here Robert.

Paul Lowe

I just heard from Devon. He was TX’d by his Plt LDR and advised that the Specialist Who first layed down his weapon is being held in county jail by the Bn CMDR, awaiting a hearing under the UCMJ. Devon couldn’t get any more info than that. I don’t want to post the mans name until we have more information. I am so upset by this that I am having chest pains. How can they do this to one soldier and not them all. I will let you know how things go. Think I might go lay down for a bit. SEMPER FI.

Gary Greene

That is great, sort of, to hear. That the officers wont stand by THEIR oath is troubling. Where is this?

NOTE FROM STEWART RHODES:

Again, this is unconfirmed, and we are working on confirming it.   Please keep that in mind.  But this is certainly the kind of mass, whole-unit stand-down that may well become necessary, especially in light of the treason of the US Senate, which voted 93-7 to authorize military detention and trial of U.S. citizens – claiming the power to apply the laws of war to the American people in the same way as they are used on a conquered, enemy population, like Iraq or Afghanistan.   While National Guard units can, and have been used for riot control without violating their oath, we suspect that this survey was asking them about whether they would do something far worse than just keep the peace during riots.   We will do our best to get to the bottom of this, and provide all details once confirmed.

If accurate, this is reminiscent of the stand-down during Katrina by SSGT Joshua May’s Utah National Guard Unit, where the whole unit let their commander know, in a peremptory refusal, that they would not participate in any gun confiscation:

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HRZfvtYlCY&feature=player_embedded

UPDATE Dec. 8:

Paul Lowe

I just left both people involved with the incident that took place in the last few days. The soldiers do not want to pursue this matter any further, in any way shape or form. I was advised that the situation is being dealt with inhouse and there will be internal investigations into the conduct of certain ‘officers’ who started the poll and ordered certain persons held. The person allegedly being held was only there for a couple of hours. No punishment will be handed down to any of the soldiers involved. I cannot give any further information as to names dates reasons units or places. This is in respect to my friends here. If this upsets anyone I am sorry but this is the way the soldiers want it. You have my deepest apology and I truly wish I had never spoken about any of this with my friends here on or FB. I will be posting no more information of this type due to the repercussions which could come from this.




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188 Responses to “Oath Keepers Receive Tip of National Guard Unit Stand-Down, Refusing to Answer Questionnaire Asking if They Would Use Lethal Force Against the American People”

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  1. 51
    Patricia Says:

    I think the only hope for our protection will be the military. I don’t think we can trust the police to be on our side.I watch how they interact with union protesters against members of the Tea Party and they definitely protect their own union members.

    God bless the military and I pray that they will always be one of us.

  2. 52
    AirCav6 Says:

    >THIS, ALONG WITH THE SENATE’S PASSING OF THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL BILL DECLARING AMERICA A COMBAT ZONE, ALONG WITH THE UN-PATRIOT ACTS I & II, SHOULD CLEARLY SIGNAL TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN WHAT THE US BRANCH OF THE CWHOREPORATE GLOBALIST DEFACTO ‘GOVERNMENT’ HAVE PLANNED FOR US.
    AND SO IT BEGINS …

  3. 53
    John Jelinek Says:

    I think the surveys are more of an account of WHO will need further BRAIN WASH techniques to be deployed for such missions , when they DO make their move . I think that WAS the only move for those men to do , because , if they would have , at least took the survey , that would STILL showed , that there was possibility of them changing their minds . But , a resounding NO , made it clear , that THOSE men weren’t going to have ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT ! Like TRUE American warriors !

  4. 54
    Dan Stanevich Says:

    If this is true…Oath Keepers from around the county need to rally behind this Guardsman. This the reason we exsist.

  5. 55
    RICHARD Says:

    HOW CAN YOU JAIL SOMEONE FOR ANSWERING A QUESTION, IT WASN’T AN ORDER, IF YOU YOU CAN’T HAVE AN OPINION? HOW THEN DO ANSWER A QUESTION.

    ALSO WHAT STATE WAS THIS NATIONAL GUARD UNIT IN?

    AND HOW CAN THEY HOLD A PART TIME NATIONAL GUARD MAN WHEN HE IS MAINLY A CIVILIAN.

    ONCE WE GET ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTION AND THEY ARE THE TRUTH. LETS JOIN FORCES AND RING THEIR HEADQUARTERS AND THE JAIL WHERE THIS MAN IS SUPPOSE TO BE HELD UNTIL THOSE OFFICERS REALIZE THAT THEY ARE CIVILIANS ALSO AND BACK OFF.

  6. 56
    Roberta Says:

    The Constitution is being upheld by our brave soldiers other than on the front lines. The officers asking the questions should be the ones in the jail not the one who put his gun down protecting America.

  7. 57
    Ray Gilmore Says:

    A friend of mine, a weapons specialist in Viet Nam just checked this story out with a buddy of his, a General who is in charge of the National Guard in California and was told that this incident never happened. one would hope that these articles would be verified before they are published. Situations like this put this website/movement at risk, don’t you think? There needs to be a follow-up on this or this website/movement will lose all credibility.
    what say you?
    Ray Gilmore

  8. 58
    Jeff Says:

    That BN officer, and I use that term very loosely, needs to be reminded of the oath of office he took when he was first commissioned. Then he needs to be asked where in the hell is his integrity?
    He maybe an officer but he is no leader. Regarding the stand down by those troops, Martin Luther stated it the best: “here I stand, I can do no other”. As a member of Oath Keepers, I suspect that I will be soon, if not already have been branded as a “terrorist” by this evil and corrupt administration.

  9. 59
    Warren, Anthony Says:

    Best news in over a year! God Bless American Patriots.

  10. 60
    Monroe Riddle Says:

    I am so proud of these men .My guess if the officers that infered they would. As soon as the fire started the same men would shot them right through the ——–These are the white knights Monroe Riddle

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