The Oath is an Individual Obligation – Stewart Rhodes Oath Keepers
It has been a long standing legal obligation to disobey unlawful orders. It is not just an option, it is a duty. As the Nazi’s learned during Nuremberg, just following orders is no defense.
It has been a long standing legal obligation to disobey unlawful orders. It is not just an option, it is a duty. As the Nazi’s learned during Nuremberg, just following orders is no defense.
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May 22nd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Rhodes advocates the overthrow of the legally elected government. This is treason.
May 24th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
If what you say is true Anonymous then it would be treason and every OK would have an obligation to not support such group or individual.
Please support your statement. I have not found anything on this website or elsewhere to substantiate your claim about Rhodes. This video in particular laid out the difference between a lawful order and an unlawful order. So it wasn’t in this video. It would be much easier Anonymous if you could just point everyone to a specific example of where Rhodes has advocated such a thing. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated.
May 30th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Anon,
When you discover why the Founders, Militia’s, and Continental Army rebelled against their own government … that being Britain … come back and tell us all about “treason”.
Perhaps you can tell us when it is not considered treason to rebel against your own government? Or perhaps you believe that government, no matter how intrusive it becomes … has a monopoly on what and what is not “treason”?
June 1st, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Its quite simple. The Oathkeepers are only rebelling because their guy lost the election. Its really nothing more. You were absolutely OK with W and did not question the Constitutionality of his actions. His abuses of power were deemed patriotic and anyone who questioned W was declared a traitor. None of his egregious grabs were called illegal. When McCain lost, you all got sour grapes and decided that the only course of action was violence. Add to the mix a fantasy world filled with black helicopters, UN troops in National Parks and birth certificate pipe-dreams, and you all are ready for a good ol’ fashioned watering of the Tree of Liberty. Where do we start lining them up against the wall, Hoss? It’s time to start shootin’ them damn liberals!! Start with anyone who looks different, and then start in on the ones who don’t pray the right way.
June 1st, 2010 at 7:11 pm
@ Comment by Anonymous — June 1, 2010 @ 5:43 pm
Here is a letter Anon that made the Letter of the Week over at World Net Daily:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=34120
Posted: December 30, 2005
1:00 am Eastern
“Being 47 years old, I still remember hiding under my desk in grade school during mock nuclear attacks by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. I remember all too well the stories of KGB agents snooping on their citizens, invading their citizens’ homes late at night for questioning the authority of the “state” – whether real or imagined – dragging citizens out of their homes and sending them to the gulags to be compelled to confess to their alleged “crimes.”
Millions were simply just killed as “enemies of the state.” I remember the stories of how their citizens were routinely stopped at security check points, or just simply walking down the street and being compelled to show their “papers” and being searched. All this, and more, in the name of “state security.” I remember being told over and over again that because of all this, this was the reason why we were fighting the “Cold War” against the communists.
My, how things have changed. We have become an image of our old adversaries. In the name of “state security.” In the name of “freedom.” In the name of “liberty.” In the name of “safety.” In the name of the “Homeland.” In the name of “protecting the citizens.” In the name of the “STATE.” Destroying what last vestige is left of our Constitution … in order to save it?
Besides the liberties and freedoms that have been stolen from us since the “Civil War” (2nd American Revolution), more damage has been done to our Constitution in the past four years, than in all of my 47 …
So Mr. President, so Congress, so Senate, so Department of Homeland Security, so TSA, so DOD, so NSA, so all the other various alphabet agencies of the federal government and all state and local agencies feeding on the federal teats destroying the last vestige of our Constitution, eat this …
The time will come when that famous quote by the father of our Declaration of Independence shall come alive and become the rallying cry of Patriots who yearn to reclaim their rights, their lives, their liberty and their pursuit of happiness, unfettered by the yokes that you have placed upon us. Intruding where you ought not.
And if this be treason … if this be sedition … then so be it!
Better Red than dead?
No!
Better in the company of men who gave us our Republic, than be reduced under absolute despotism.
Curtis Cope <— Yep, that is me.
So Anon, while I am sure there are plenty of people here for the sole reason that the Obamanation is now our usurper president … I … and others like me … were busy being PATRIOTS when the Bush was our usurper president.
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 am
Anon … how dare you degenerate the greatest living president in modern … no … in the history of America, George W. Bush! Why, if we had elected Bush to another term, we wouldn’t be where we are today and there would be no OK’ers!
June 5th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
you got that right CC.
June 13th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
@ #1 & #4 Anonymous – Why do the Anonymous posts always make generalizations and provide no facts?
# 1 suggests OK’s is treasonous without providing any substantiation. See my response #2.
# 4 implies OK’s is a republican front without providing any substantiation. Although I do agree it seems there are many more right leaning political individuals within OK’s I don’t believe it is a prerequisite nor required for membership. It wasn’t asked of me when I joined and would have prevented my ability to do so if it was. That’s probably because it has nothing to do with its Mission or Bylaws. You seem to have issues but I assure you it is directed in the wrong place. You have issues with some members or associate members political leanings. Take it up with them. But OK’s in non-partisan and is open to all political affiliations…or none. The requirement for Membership is active duty and veteran military, police and fire fighters. Associate memberships can be gained by anyone else who would like to support the members. That’s it. No republican cards need be presented as proof for membership. The remainder of your post is too difficult to understand any points you are attempting. Black helicopters, birth certificates, lining up against the wall, shooting the damn liberals? Provide some proof that OK’s stand for any of this? Please site just one speech or written article from Rhodes or any other office holder that could validate such incoherent ramblings. Are you at the right website? This isn’t the SPLC.
July 21st, 2010 at 10:46 am
I was raised to follow the law and the law states that anyone that see’s a crime taking place is required to contact there local police or you can be charged with conspiracy to commit a crime. I was also told this applies to all states. Therefore it is the responsibility of EVERY American to report Obummer to there local police or face criminal charges THAT IS THE LAW. Now I know this might bring charges agents you for false reporting if they don’t believe you however if everyone that believes Obummer is breaking the law through Constitution Art. II Sec. 4, “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” was to do this the courts would be overwhelmed with ether people facing charges for filing a false police report or investigate the charges agents Obummer. This is up to you but remember THIS IS THE LAW.