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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twelve years ago, I raised my hand to God and swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. You can take a man out of the Army, but you can never take the Army out of the man. Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, Personal Courage. Being a law enforcment officer, soldier, or even an officer of the court needs to be about two things.  Protecting the constitutional rights of civilians, and L.D.R.S.H.I.P.

However, when it comes to the issues we find ourselves facing as a nation, I find myself standing on a knifes edge.  No matter which way you look, to the left or to the right, there is someone waiting to snatch away your personal freedoms to increase thier own wealth and power.

I do not believe in totalitarian socialism, whereby all transactions in our ecomomy are regulated by government agencys. That can only lead to absolute disaster.

I do happen to believe in universal healthcare.  If our society is to progress and flourish we must provide all people of all economic situations the abillity to contribute to our society in a positive way.  

This means providing healthcare, education (to the ph.d. level), and justice (as outlined by the constitution) as a function of that society.  At no cost to the individual.  So that more people can end up in a lab working on the next best thing instead of in a prison living on our tax dollars anyway. 

But the party that stands for those things also stands for this video.  Just as the Republicans would take away the greatest tool of free speech in history (the internet) through backroom international deals (ACTA) so would the Democrates press us against the fulcrum of political correctness in an attempt to silence thier detractors.

Just as Republicans will pass unconstitutional laws that allow for the creation of a fascist police state, so would the Democrates control our economy and our welfare through totalitarian socialism.

The right thinks you should give all of your money to the corporate elite, while making a slaves wage.  The left thinks you should give all of your money to the government.  Both sides think you should be striped of your first, third, and fourth ammendment rights.  

All of them are on the take from corporations with special interests making laws instead of better products (where is your free market now?).

And I have no idea who to back without breaking my oath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twelve years ago, I raised my hand to God and swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. You can take a man out of the Army, but you can never take the Army out of the man. Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, Personal Courage. Being a law enforcment officer, soldier, or even an officer of the court needs to be about two things.  Protecting the constitutional rights of civilians, and L.D.R.S.H.I.P.</p>
<p>However, when it comes to the issues we find ourselves facing as a nation, I find myself standing on a knifes edge.  No matter which way you look, to the left or to the right, there is someone waiting to snatch away your personal freedoms to increase thier own wealth and power.</p>
<p>I do not believe in totalitarian socialism, whereby all transactions in our ecomomy are regulated by government agencys. That can only lead to absolute disaster.</p>
<p>I do happen to believe in universal healthcare.  If our society is to progress and flourish we must provide all people of all economic situations the abillity to contribute to our society in a positive way.  </p>
<p>This means providing healthcare, education (to the ph.d. level), and justice (as outlined by the constitution) as a function of that society.  At no cost to the individual.  So that more people can end up in a lab working on the next best thing instead of in a prison living on our tax dollars anyway. </p>
<p>But the party that stands for those things also stands for this video.  Just as the Republicans would take away the greatest tool of free speech in history (the internet) through backroom international deals (ACTA) so would the Democrates press us against the fulcrum of political correctness in an attempt to silence thier detractors.</p>
<p>Just as Republicans will pass unconstitutional laws that allow for the creation of a fascist police state, so would the Democrates control our economy and our welfare through totalitarian socialism.</p>
<p>The right thinks you should give all of your money to the corporate elite, while making a slaves wage.  The left thinks you should give all of your money to the government.  Both sides think you should be striped of your first, third, and fourth ammendment rights.  </p>
<p>All of them are on the take from corporations with special interests making laws instead of better products (where is your free market now?).</p>
<p>And I have no idea who to back without breaking my oath.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joey: Trust me! Whatever experience you&#039;ve had with police you must realize that the majority of us aren&#039;t the idiots that want to regulate behavior, write up the poor bastards driving to work who are trying to make a living, or derive pleasure from imposing our authority. The majority of us RECOGNIZE that law abiding citizens are not only our allies, but are our backup. If you come from an area that makes you feel that way then let me know and we&#039;ll see what we can do about it. Please don&#039;t think we&#039;re all on a &quot;power trip&quot;, because we&#039;re not. I don&#039;t think you realize just how important you are to most of us.I&#039;m guessing you&#039;ve had some negative experiences with law enforcement that have lead you to your views. Do you think that we, in law enforcement, don&#039;t see or recognize the morons that have been allowed to become police officers who have ruined our reputations and diminished the trust that our citizens once held? You have no idea what&#039;s been going on behind the scenes and the battles we&#039;ve been waging on your behalf. I&#039;m telling you right now, with no equivocation that most police officers don&#039;t want anything to do with the new standards that seemed to have surfaced recently. Many of us...not all of us mind you, are openly questioning what the hell is going on. I don&#039;t think it is a co-incidence that hiring practices for police have changed to the point that this is a concern. I won&#039;t say anything more about that. All I will say is that there are many of us that were hired because of our ability, because of our intellect, because of our credentials that despise what is going on right now. Please don&#039;t abandon those of us that are trying to preserve your rights while we&#039;re taking all kinds of heat from our superiors for doing it. There&#039;s a major &quot;shit-storm&quot; within law enforcement about that exact thing and the older guys are taking our bruises because of it. We were soldiers, we adhere to our constitution, we know why we do what we do. Don&#039;t abandon us when we need you to support us in these trying times. Why do you think Oathkeepers came to be? Most of us know we&#039;re no better than anyone else, we&#039;re just trying to do our jobs the best we can. We&#039;re fighting as hard as you are to preserve the rights of the citizens whether you want to recognize it or not. I hope you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joey: Trust me! Whatever experience you&#8217;ve had with police you must realize that the majority of us aren&#8217;t the idiots that want to regulate behavior, write up the poor bastards driving to work who are trying to make a living, or derive pleasure from imposing our authority. The majority of us RECOGNIZE that law abiding citizens are not only our allies, but are our backup. If you come from an area that makes you feel that way then let me know and we&#8217;ll see what we can do about it. Please don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re all on a &#8220;power trip&#8221;, because we&#8217;re not. I don&#8217;t think you realize just how important you are to most of us.I&#8217;m guessing you&#8217;ve had some negative experiences with law enforcement that have lead you to your views. Do you think that we, in law enforcement, don&#8217;t see or recognize the morons that have been allowed to become police officers who have ruined our reputations and diminished the trust that our citizens once held? You have no idea what&#8217;s been going on behind the scenes and the battles we&#8217;ve been waging on your behalf. I&#8217;m telling you right now, with no equivocation that most police officers don&#8217;t want anything to do with the new standards that seemed to have surfaced recently. Many of us&#8230;not all of us mind you, are openly questioning what the hell is going on. I don&#8217;t think it is a co-incidence that hiring practices for police have changed to the point that this is a concern. I won&#8217;t say anything more about that. All I will say is that there are many of us that were hired because of our ability, because of our intellect, because of our credentials that despise what is going on right now. Please don&#8217;t abandon those of us that are trying to preserve your rights while we&#8217;re taking all kinds of heat from our superiors for doing it. There&#8217;s a major &#8220;shit-storm&#8221; within law enforcement about that exact thing and the older guys are taking our bruises because of it. We were soldiers, we adhere to our constitution, we know why we do what we do. Don&#8217;t abandon us when we need you to support us in these trying times. Why do you think Oathkeepers came to be? Most of us know we&#8217;re no better than anyone else, we&#8217;re just trying to do our jobs the best we can. We&#8217;re fighting as hard as you are to preserve the rights of the citizens whether you want to recognize it or not. I hope you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jefferson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is this police still a policeman in the United States? Why has he not been removed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is this police still a policeman in the United States? Why has he not been removed?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in favor of and support the oath keepers. :)

But I can understand how government property (school grounds) can not be used to send a political message. In my opinion, a government allowing that would be fascist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in favor of and support the oath keepers. <img src='http://oathkeepers.org/oath/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But I can understand how government property (school grounds) can not be used to send a political message. In my opinion, a government allowing that would be fascist.</p>
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		<title>By: Your Aunt Jemima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your Aunt Jemima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHEN WILL THE OATH KEEPER POLICE BEGIN TO ADVISE US?

We are not playing a game, we are going to defend our nation and our way of life against domestic enimies even if its our own government.  

1. Tell us how to avoid police confrontations.
2. What can we do like at Pittsberg when trapped by police reacting to Mob Dynamics?
3. How can we assert ourselves when confonted by the police at a meeting who is exceeding his authoriety.

Stop telling us that you will not follow ten orders, we are beyond that.  How do we remain civil, passive, yet assert our constitutional rights.  Please advise us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHEN WILL THE OATH KEEPER POLICE BEGIN TO ADVISE US?</p>
<p>We are not playing a game, we are going to defend our nation and our way of life against domestic enimies even if its our own government.  </p>
<p>1. Tell us how to avoid police confrontations.<br />
2. What can we do like at Pittsberg when trapped by police reacting to Mob Dynamics?<br />
3. How can we assert ourselves when confonted by the police at a meeting who is exceeding his authoriety.</p>
<p>Stop telling us that you will not follow ten orders, we are beyond that.  How do we remain civil, passive, yet assert our constitutional rights.  Please advise us.</p>
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		<title>By: Your Aunt Jemima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your Aunt Jemima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. BRING THE POLICE UNDER CONTROL

Leftist protesters always have a lawyer with them when they protest and expect police to confront them.  Its is easy to spot their lawyer, they look like lawyers and stand out.

When planning to protest, march, or appear at a town hall meeting, make sure there are cameras recording every minute.  If possible, hire a lawyer or get a volunteer lawyer to be with you.  The Police will be on their best behavior if a lawyer is present because they know in a court the police do not stand a chance against a lawyer.  The police can always explain away a video but will have a hard time explaining away a Member-of-the-Bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. BRING THE POLICE UNDER CONTROL</p>
<p>Leftist protesters always have a lawyer with them when they protest and expect police to confront them.  Its is easy to spot their lawyer, they look like lawyers and stand out.</p>
<p>When planning to protest, march, or appear at a town hall meeting, make sure there are cameras recording every minute.  If possible, hire a lawyer or get a volunteer lawyer to be with you.  The Police will be on their best behavior if a lawyer is present because they know in a court the police do not stand a chance against a lawyer.  The police can always explain away a video but will have a hard time explaining away a Member-of-the-Bar.</p>
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		<title>By: Your Aunt Jemima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your Aunt Jemima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>POLICE, ANYWHERE GIVE THEIR ALIEGENCE TO THE REGIME IN POWER.  IF TOMORROW CHINESE TROOPS ARRIVE AND ISSUE A SET OF NEW LAWS, OUR LOCAL POLICE WILL INFORCE THOSE LAWS ON US.  CIVILIANS SHOULD NEVER EXPECT POLICE TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC, IT’S NOT IN THEIR DNA.  

In New Orleans during and after Hurricane Katrina while people were in need of help, medical care, food, water and evacuation, the New Orleans Police Department carried out a house-to-house and traffic stops taking legally owned guns from people.  Later courts declared they acted illegally and to return the confiscated firearms but that was never done.  They were only following orders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>POLICE, ANYWHERE GIVE THEIR ALIEGENCE TO THE REGIME IN POWER.  IF TOMORROW CHINESE TROOPS ARRIVE AND ISSUE A SET OF NEW LAWS, OUR LOCAL POLICE WILL INFORCE THOSE LAWS ON US.  CIVILIANS SHOULD NEVER EXPECT POLICE TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC, IT’S NOT IN THEIR DNA.  </p>
<p>In New Orleans during and after Hurricane Katrina while people were in need of help, medical care, food, water and evacuation, the New Orleans Police Department carried out a house-to-house and traffic stops taking legally owned guns from people.  Later courts declared they acted illegally and to return the confiscated firearms but that was never done.  They were only following orders.</p>
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		<title>By: ty</title>
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		<dc:creator>ty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he said this was not the united states anymore,in uniform wile on the clock getting payed by taxpayers, he should be fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he said this was not the united states anymore,in uniform wile on the clock getting payed by taxpayers, he should be fired.</p>
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		<title>By: mixcj</title>
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		<dc:creator>mixcj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,
    You are correct about one thing, we should not have to depend on foreign oil. However with that being said next time you decide to come to OUR web site to insult these true patriotic Americans, saying that we need an education. Maybe you could spell check your message before you go blabbing all kinds of stupid everywhere. I counted over 10 grammatical or spelling errors but we are the dumb ones, right? Oh as far as being dependent on foreign oil goes, the U.S. has enough reserves to last us 380 years at our current level of demand. Also here &quot;is some skoolin for ya dave&quot; note the sarcasm in my misspelling of words.

President Bush -- almost sounding like former Speaker Newt Gingrich -- pushed for offshore oil drilling on America’s Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) yesterday, urging Congress to lift the legislative ban on exploration in that area.

As the nation’s gas prices skyrocketed again this week -- in some places up to $4.30/gallon -- Democrats’ opposition to in-country drilling faces heavy criticism. 

Bush said his administration has “repeatedly called on Congress to expand domestic oil production” but “Democrats on Capitol Hill have rejected virtually every proposal.” 
 
Offshore drilling, banned under a 1981 federal moratorium, could produce years of sufficient oil production. But the practice is frowned on by environmentalists even though recent technological advances make it possible to drill without harming the natural environments.

“With these advances -- and a dramatic increase in oil prices -- congressional restrictions on OCS exploration have become outdated and counterproductive,” said Bush.

This came straight from an old news article written by Ericka Andersen on 6/19/2008 at Humanevents.com 

To the other Oath Keepers, I am sorry to deviate from the original subject of discussion, I just don&#039;t like being called stupid by a less educated person.

If you don&#039;t stand for something, you will fall for anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,<br />
    You are correct about one thing, we should not have to depend on foreign oil. However with that being said next time you decide to come to OUR web site to insult these true patriotic Americans, saying that we need an education. Maybe you could spell check your message before you go blabbing all kinds of stupid everywhere. I counted over 10 grammatical or spelling errors but we are the dumb ones, right? Oh as far as being dependent on foreign oil goes, the U.S. has enough reserves to last us 380 years at our current level of demand. Also here &#8220;is some skoolin for ya dave&#8221; note the sarcasm in my misspelling of words.</p>
<p>President Bush &#8212; almost sounding like former Speaker Newt Gingrich &#8212; pushed for offshore oil drilling on America’s Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) yesterday, urging Congress to lift the legislative ban on exploration in that area.</p>
<p>As the nation’s gas prices skyrocketed again this week &#8212; in some places up to $4.30/gallon &#8212; Democrats’ opposition to in-country drilling faces heavy criticism. </p>
<p>Bush said his administration has “repeatedly called on Congress to expand domestic oil production” but “Democrats on Capitol Hill have rejected virtually every proposal.” </p>
<p>Offshore drilling, banned under a 1981 federal moratorium, could produce years of sufficient oil production. But the practice is frowned on by environmentalists even though recent technological advances make it possible to drill without harming the natural environments.</p>
<p>“With these advances &#8212; and a dramatic increase in oil prices &#8212; congressional restrictions on OCS exploration have become outdated and counterproductive,” said Bush.</p>
<p>This came straight from an old news article written by Ericka Andersen on 6/19/2008 at Humanevents.com </p>
<p>To the other Oath Keepers, I am sorry to deviate from the original subject of discussion, I just don&#8217;t like being called stupid by a less educated person.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t stand for something, you will fall for anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed the officer is a moron. But common people, how old are you when you put white face on a black man on a poster and not expect people having a problem with that. I have been reading alot of your web pages out of couriosity but it appears that you all are using shock factor (sometimes bad taste) to create a soap box for yourselves. The fact is it is still America and that is not going to change. I don&#039;t care if they said turn in all your guns, balh blah blah,...it aint gonna happen. Thats the main reason we&#039;ve never been invaded (with troops on the ground), because we all own guns and we would use them! lol

That is the probelm in the war that Bush created. They all own guns and we are on their grounds. Its a no win situation. Obama is talking about withdrawing troops. Good, we need to. We are not going to win that war. Lets build up our defenses here, put embargos on their country, grow independent from foriegn oil and move one in life. But you guys are not focused on solving the problem. Your focused on raising hell crying about it. Do something to benefit this country istead of calling the Waaaambulance.

Its funny to read all the comments from cops on here and then look at the board members. lol

Cops, haha, what do you need to become one, a highg school diploma? yeah thats what I thought. The blind leading the blind. Get an education people. Benefit society don&#039;t bring it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed the officer is a moron. But common people, how old are you when you put white face on a black man on a poster and not expect people having a problem with that. I have been reading alot of your web pages out of couriosity but it appears that you all are using shock factor (sometimes bad taste) to create a soap box for yourselves. The fact is it is still America and that is not going to change. I don&#8217;t care if they said turn in all your guns, balh blah blah,&#8230;it aint gonna happen. Thats the main reason we&#8217;ve never been invaded (with troops on the ground), because we all own guns and we would use them! lol</p>
<p>That is the probelm in the war that Bush created. They all own guns and we are on their grounds. Its a no win situation. Obama is talking about withdrawing troops. Good, we need to. We are not going to win that war. Lets build up our defenses here, put embargos on their country, grow independent from foriegn oil and move one in life. But you guys are not focused on solving the problem. Your focused on raising hell crying about it. Do something to benefit this country istead of calling the Waaaambulance.</p>
<p>Its funny to read all the comments from cops on here and then look at the board members. lol</p>
<p>Cops, haha, what do you need to become one, a highg school diploma? yeah thats what I thought. The blind leading the blind. Get an education people. Benefit society don&#8217;t bring it down.</p>
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