No one is swearing an Oath to Oath Keepers or any other organization. We are ALREADY sworn to support and defend the Constitution, and the ideas enshrined within. This group was formed to give voice to those who have taken that Constitutional Oath. Specifically, we promise to honor our Oaths by refusing to obey unlawful orders that violate our Oaths, in accordance with the UCMJ.

We don’t advocate swearing an Oath to Subway. That would be a commercial venture, and is not withing our narrowly defined mission to support and defend the Constitution. I HAVE purchased Subway sandwiches while wearing my uniform on several occasions. I suppose you would see that as a UCMJ violation, too?

We have listened to your complaint, and explained why you are wrong. We get it, you think it is a violation of the UCMJ. Noted, and filed. If you seriously have a problem with us, go file your charges with the appropriate authorities. Your continued harping is approaching harrassment.

Many of us have already fought, and won the fight you are trying to bring. The only thing new in this arguement is YOU. Talk to your JAG, and have THEM explain that honoring your Oath to the Constitution while in uniform is not a violation of the UCMJ. Then you can argue with them about how THEY are wrong, and we can have some peace here.

Your all just as bad as the liberals, stubborn like them, and behave like them. And the only thing I have to say was make one accusation that he violated (which he did) the US Code of wearing a military uniform for the purpose of a private organization. Now you cannot deny the fact that you are a private organization, can you not? Now if you can somehow, per say, get around it please tell me how that can be legal?

Should the uniformed members go up and start making commercials in uniform of how Subway is good? Why not? Everybody loves Subway pretty much.

You have done nothing but speak out in support of the Constitution. That is fulfillment of your Oath and reflects great credit upon the Air Force and the uniform. You have done nothing wrong. We are all about the Constitution. We are not a political group, we are just people, who have taken the Oath, educating and encouraging others, who have taken the Oath.

It isn’t easy to be an Oath Keeper. There will always be those who try to drag you down and make you doubt. It takes courage to stand up and be counted. I am proud to stand with you.

Besides, if some over-zealous, under-educated JAG type decides that you look like a notch on his OER, I know we can help you out. That would, actually, be great publicity for the Oath Keepers!

Not that they are silly enough to try it, but just in case. You know the drill, though. If someone does try something, they will really be trying to get you to commit another offense like ‘disrespect’. Don’t let them shake you. Stand firm on your convictions, maintain your bearing, and you will win.

You can do an IP check if you want, you will find I am legit and real. The Oath of Enlistment is sworn for the Armed Forces of the United States of America, taken from a Commissioned Officer, whether Active, Reserve, Retired, or even Foreign, by the Secretary or the President of the United States. In the Oath, they all swear the following: “that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic; that I will bear true faith and alliegance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” And that Oath is supported by the Government for the people. But taking another Oath and more or less misinterpreting the meaning but claiming to be the same Oath into a different political view is something the Armed Forces nor the Government recognize. Therefore, they will not wear the uniform if they do for it is a organizational gain.
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Do you not understand the words you yourself use ?
Why, do you suppose, the words in that oath are in the order they are in ? and have been for over 200 years ?
Which is mentioned First ? The Constitution.
Then there follows a whole group of identifiers that explain who you are to defend it from and how much you are to defend it.
Then comes the President, followed by the Officers in the military and finally in last place is that UCMJ you keep pointing to with such fervor.
Which tells us that IF one of our Officers gives us an unlawful order we are to Not obey it doesn’t it ?
And the President ? He is our “Commander” an Officer. Which we will obey as long as his orders are lawful.[Do not violate the Constitution.]

You say that the oath is supported by the Government for the people. Where does it say that ?
It says that YOU “will support and defend” the Constitution. Do you not realize that the People of this country ARE the Government ?

You claim that we are “taking another oath”. In this you are yet again showing your ignorance. We have based “our oath” upon the Oath of Service as sworn to by Officers entering the armed services.
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But you cannot deny that display of personnel in uniform is a huge factor in your recruitment tool, therefore it is benefiting the organization that is not recognize but the Government. And that will make it a violation of the UCMJ.

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Nor would we want to deny it. We are proud of our brothers and sisters in arms who have stepped forward and publicly proclaimed that when they took that oath of service they Meant It.
The benefit that you are so worried about …. ? Is to the People of this great country and No one else.

A violation of the UCMJ ? To uphold your oath of service ? I am under the understanding that to NOT uphold my oath of service would be a violation of the UCMJ.
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Now I may have misinterpreted the goal of the Oath Keepers into starting a revolution, but it does seem to me that the whole point of it is to prepare for one.
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You most certainly have misinterpreted our goal. Badly in fact. Nearly exactly backwards actually.

Our Goal is to PREVENT A REVOLUTION.
Our goal is NOT to plan for a revolution, our goal is Not to prepare for a revolution and our goal is absolutely definitely NOT to start a revolution.

Our tool is our Oath and we will use it to Refuse Unlawful Orders which is one of those laws in the UCMJ you keep mentioning and which is actually supporting and defending the Constitution like we swore to do.
Didn’t You ?

CaptGooch
OathKeeper
since ‘66