Declaration Of Orders We Will Not Obey
Orders We Will Not Obey
“The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their Houses, and Farms, are to be pillaged and destroyed, and they consigned to a State of Wretchedness from which no human efforts will probably deliver them. The fate of unborn Millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this army” -- Gen. George Washington, to his troops before the battle of Long Island
Such a time is near at hand again. The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this Army -- and this Marine Corps, This Air Force, This Navy and the National Guard and police units of these sovereign states.
Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, peace officers, fire-fighters, and veterans who swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic … and meant it. We won’t “just follow orders.”
Below is our declaration of orders we will NOT obey because we will consider them unconstitutional (and thus unlawful) and immoral violations of the natural rights of the people. Such orders would be acts of war against the American people by their own government, and thus acts of treason. We will not make war against our own people. We will not commit treason. We will defend the Republic.
Declaration of Orders We Will NOT Obey
Recognizing that we each swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and affirming that we are guardians of the Republic, of the principles in our Declaration of Independence, and of the rights of our people, we affirm and declare the following:
1. We will NOT obey any order to disarm the American people.
The attempt to disarm the people on April 19, 1775 was the spark of open conflict in the American Revolution. That vile attempt was an act of war, and the American people fought back in justified, righteous self-defense of their natural rights. Any such order today would also be an act of war against the American people, and thus an act of treason. We will not make war on our own people, and we will not commit treason by obeying any such treasonous order.
Nor will we assist, or support any such attempt to disarm the people by other government entities, either state or federal.
In addition, we affirm that the purpose of the Second Amendment is to preserve the military power of the people so that they will, in the last resort, have effective final recourse to arms and to the God of Hosts in the face of tyranny. Accordingly, we oppose any and all further infringements on the right of the people to keep and bear arms. In particular we oppose a renewal of the misnamed “assault-weapons” ban or the enactment of H.R. 45 (which would register and track gun owners like convicted pedophiles).
2. We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people, their homes, vehicles, papers, or effects -- such as warrantless house-to house searches for weapons or persons.
One of the causes of the American Revolution was the use of “writs of assistance,” which were essentially warrantless searches because there was no requirement of a showing of probable cause to a judge, and the first fiery embers of American resistance were born in opposition to those infamous writs. The Founders considered all warrantless searches to be unreasonable and egregious. It was to prevent a repeat of such violations of the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects that the Fourth Amendment was written.
We expect that sweeping warrantless searches of homes and vehicles, under some pretext, will be the means used to attempt to disarm the people.
3. We will NOT obey any order to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to trial by military tribunal.
One of the causes of the American Revolution was the denial of the right to jury trial, the use of admiralty courts (military tribunals) instead, and the application of the laws of war to the colonists. After that experience, and being well aware of the infamous Star Chamber in English history, the Founders ensured that the international laws of war would apply only to foreign enemies, not to the American people. Thus, the Article III Treason Clause establishes the only constitutional form of trial for an American, not serving in the military, who is accused of making war on his own nation. Such a trial for treason must be before a civilian jury, not a tribunal.
The international laws of war do not trump our Bill of Rights. We reject as illegitimate any such claimed power, as did the Supreme Court in Ex Parte Milligan (1865). Any attempt to apply the laws of war to American civilians, under any pretext, such as against domestic “militia” groups the government brands “domestic terrorists,” is an act of war and an act of treason.
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state, or to enter with force into a state, without the express consent and invitation of that state’s legislature and governor.
One of the causes of the American Revolution was the attempt “to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power” by disbanding the Massachusetts legislature and appointing General Gage as “military governor.” The attempt to disarm the people of Massachusetts during that martial law sparked our Revolution. Accordingly, the power to impose martial law – the absolute rule over the people by a military officer with his will alone being law – is nowhere enumerated in our Constitution.
Further, it is the militia of a state and of the several states that the Constitution contemplates being used in any context, during any emergency within a state, not the standing army.
The imposition of martial law by the national government over a state and its people, treating them as an occupied enemy nation, is an act of war. Such an attempted suspension of the Constitution and Bill of Rights voids the compact with the states and with the people.
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty and declares the national government to be in violation of the compact by which that state entered the Union.
In response to the obscene growth of federal power and to the absurdly totalitarian claimed powers of the Executive, upwards of 20 states are considering, have considered, or have passed courageous resolutions affirming states rights and sovereignty.
Those resolutions follow in the honored and revered footsteps of Jefferson and Madison in their Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions, and likewise seek to enforce the Constitution by affirming the very same principles of our Declaration, Constitution, and Bill of Rights that we Oath Keepers recognize and affirm.
Chief among those principles is that ours is a dual sovereignty system, with the people of each state retaining all powers not granted to the national government they created, and thus the people of each state reserved to themselves the right to judge when the national government they created has voided the compact between the states by asserting powers never granted.
Upon the declaration by a state that such a breach has occurred, we will not obey orders to force that state to submit to the national government.
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
One of the causes of the American Revolution was the blockade of Boston, and the occupying of that city by the British military, under martial law. Once hostilities began, the people of Boston were tricked into turning in their arms in exchange for safe passage, but were then forbidden to leave. That confinement of the residents of an entire city was an act of war.
Such tactics were repeated by the Nazis in the Warsaw Ghetto, and by the Imperial Japanese in Nanking, turning entire cities into death camps. Any such order to disarm and confine the people of an American city will be an act of war and thus an act of treason.
7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
Mass, forced internment into concentration camps was a hallmark of every fascist and communist dictatorship in the 20th Century. Such internment was unfortunately even used against American citizens of Japanese descent during World War II. Whenever a government interns its own people, it treats them like an occupied enemy population. Oppressive governments often use the internment of women and children to break the will of the men fighting for their liberty – as was done to the Boers, to the Jewish resisters in the Warsaw Ghetto, and to the Chechens, for example.
Such a vile order to forcibly intern Americans without charges or trial would be an act of war against the American people, and thus an act of treason, regardless of the pretext used. We will not commit treason, nor will we facilitate or support it.”NOT on Our Watch!”
8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control” during any emergency, or under any other pretext. We will consider such use of foreign troops against our people to be an invasion and an act of war.
During the American Revolution, the British government enlisted the aid of Hessian mercenaries in an attempt to subjugate the rebellious American people. Throughout history, repressive regimes have enlisted the aid of foreign troops and mercenaries who have no bonds with the people.
Accordingly, as the militia of the several states are the only military force contemplated by the Constitution, in Article I, Section 8, for domestic keeping of the peace, and as the use of even our own standing army for such purposes is without such constitutional support, the use of foreign troops and mercenaries against the people is wildly unconstitutional, egregious, and an act of war.
We will oppose such troops as enemies of the people and we will treat all who request, invite, and aid those foreign troops as the traitors they are.
9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies, under any emergency pretext whatsoever.
One of the causes of the American Revolution was the seizure and forfeiture of American ships, goods, and supplies, along with the seizure of American timber for the Royal Navy, all in violation of the people’s natural right to their property and to the fruits of their labor. The final spark of the Revolution was the attempt by the government to seize powder and cannon stores at Concord.
Deprivation of food has long been a weapon of war and oppression, with millions intentionally starved to death by fascist and communist governments in the 20th Century alone.
Accordingly, we will not obey or facilitate orders to confiscate food and other essential supplies from the people, and we will consider all those who issue or carry out such orders to be the enemies of the people.
10. We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.
There would have been no American Revolution without fiery speakers and writers such as James Otis, Patrick Henry, Thomas Paine, and Sam Adams “setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”
Patrick Henry: “Give me Liberty, or Give me DEATH!”
Tyrants know that the pen of a man such as Thomas Paine can cause them more damage than entire armies, and thus they always seek to suppress the natural rights of speech, association, and assembly. Without freedom of speech, the people will have no recourse but to arms. Without freedom of speech and conscience, there is no freedom.
Therefore, we will not obey or support any orders to suppress or violate the right of the people to speak, associate, worship, assemble, communicate, or petition government for the redress of grievances.
— And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually affirm our oath and pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor. Oath Keepers
The above list is not exhaustive but we do consider them to be clear tripwires – they form our “line in the sand,” and if we receive such orders, we will not obey them. Further, we will know that the time for another American Revolution is nigh. If you the people decide that you have no recourse, and such a revolution comes, at that time, not only will we NOT fire upon our fellow Americans who righteously resist such egregious violations of their God given rights, we will join them in fighting against those who dare attempt to enslave them.
NOTE: please also read our Principles of Our Republic We Are Sworn to Defend
More About Oath Keepers
Oath Keepers is a non partisan association of currently serving military, peace officers, fire-fighters, and veterans who will fulfill our oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God.
Our oath is to the Constitution, not to the politicians, and not to any political party. In the long-standing tradition of the U.S. military, we are apolitical. We don’t care if unlawful orders come from a Democrat or a Republican, or if the violation is bi-partisan. We will not obey unconstitutional (and thus unlawful) and immoral orders, such as orders to disarm the American people or to place them under martial law. We won’t “just follow orders.” Our motto: “Not on Our Watch!” or to put it even more succinctly, in the words of 101st Airborne Commander General Anthony McAuliffe at the Battle of the Bulge, “NUTS!”
There is at this time a debate within the ranks of the military regarding their oath. Some mistakenly believe they must follow any order the President issues. But many others do understand that their loyalty is to the Constitution and to the people, and understand what that means.
The mission of Oath Keepers is to vastly increase their numbers.
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Oath Keepers Declaration of Orders We Will NOT Obey
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I am old, but like many of the Patriots of 1776, I’m not out of it. When the time comes for more than words, I’ll be there.
Semper Fi
I feel that the time for words is just about done now. I prey that I’ll know when it’s my time to be counted and I prey that all others will know it is their time as well. I’ve been passing your video and the link to your web site around to others because for the first time in a long time, your list of ten orders you will not follow, gave me hope that we will all stand up and be counted and demand and expect our freedom in the strongest of all ways. There’s a vital message in your list of ten that one cannot deny…thank you.
San
This sounds all well and good, if you do not obey the orders you will be relieved of duty, court-martialed, and thrown out of whatever service you are in. There is not enough of you to make a difference or to stop the gov (military, police, FBI, INS, ATF ect.) from doing what they want, or enforcing whatever law they decide to make against the American people. I am glad you are making these statements and oathsm good luck.
mr. Knischansr. Sir: are you an american? When I took the oath to uphold and defend, I knew i was placing my life on the line. I also knew that the Declaration of Independance and the Constitution gave me the RIGHT and DUTY to use force of arms against enemies the of those above mentioned documents. many of those in gov. service will uphold their oarh as well. I also,can rest assured those of us who took the same oath will take it to the street. The American citizen has 3 boxes to use in defence of the Constitution.1 the Ballot box.2 the Jury box.3. The ammunition box.! I work continously to use my ballot and jury box, because I have experienced the hell of war! I also keep my Ammunition box well provisioned because I will not allow any one of my Boxes to be taken from me. My Grand Father(as eldest male) taught me my responsabilty to the Constitution before before he gave me my weapon at age 10.
I am a 53 year old male. I have not been involved in the military or law enforcement. I have been taught thre responsibilities and duties of being an American. Up until reacently I was of the mind that this would not be happening in my lifetime. I now realize that this reveloution is going to be to preserve the Americam way of life for our future generations. I feel that people with formal training in tactics and logistics and personal training are of the utmost importance. Patriots like my self need not die in vain. PLEASE OFFER HELP IN TRAINING AND ORGAINIZATION FOR OTHERS LIKE MYSELF.
wl.perluss@sbcglobal.net
I just want to say that I am VERY proud to be an American, even though I am NOT proud of our American government right now. I find it very encouraging that there are those out there who are willing to protect and defend my rights as an American based on the principles America was FOUNDED on!! As for those who say that you are fighting a worthless battle, I say : It is better to STAND for something, than to FALL for anything. I have no military background, but I support you guys 100%. My FUTURE FREEDOM and the safety of my family very well may depend on YOU. Please tell me what else I can do to help. God bless you and may America bless God again!!
Im not a veteran, active military, cop, etc. Im just a normal American citizen that wants to thank all of you that has signed up to be an oath keeper. YOU are the true heroes and protectors of our freedoms!! Thank you and I will stand by your side when the time comes and it will come.
I completely support this cause, but am very curious about the backbone of those who so freely say “do or die”.
As well-intentioned as we all are, I am afraid that when push comes to shove, many will faulter. When it really comes right down to how strong our convictions are, and our family life and lifestyles are on the line, what will we really choose to do.
I think the primary downfall is that while we all support the defense of the constitution and the american lifestyle our founding fathers intended, we do so for the most part as an individual rather than part of an organized coalition. Sort of like united we stand, divided we fall.
Hopefully we will never need to make that choice, other than at the ballot box.
Praise the Lord for you guys givin’ us back a little hope, a little light at the end of the tunnel; If y’all stick with us and keep the feds at bay, we’ll stick with you, and win Liberty back for our kids!
My great-granddad rode with Mosby in defense of states’ rights during the 2nd revolution, which revisionists falsely call the “civil” war.
The feds need to be nailed back into their constitutional box, then we can begin the re-education process, etc. Our standard of living would be 5 times what it is today if we hadn’t been hijacked by int’l bankers masquerading as the “FED.” Help us help ourselves…
“Wolverines!” “Molon Labe!” “Sic Semper Tyrannis!” “Free-dom!”
–Haymarket, Virginia
p.s. — don’t take any shots! see http://www.infowars.com
We must all be oath keepers if we are to survive give me liberty or give me death
First off i will say yes i am young, i am 23 years old and a member of the national guard. i am a combat veteran of OIF. with that said all of you who are serving right now swore and oath to and i quote
“I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.” with that said all those order that u list that you will not do are UNLAWFUL orders and need not be followed. any soldier/airman/salior/marine with common sense would not follow those orders. u should really instill the AR 600-1 common sense1!!!
Nobody who has seen the horrors of war wants to entertain the thought that one day we may be treated in this way by our own government. It encourages me that people remember their history and the sacrifices that patriots have made to secure our liberty. My prayer is that enough people can tap into the courage of the founding fathers, when the sad day finally comes that we must keep this oath. Until that day may God give us the strength to end this evil before it comes to that point.
I would like to let you all know that I have never served in the Armed forces but My father taught me how to defend my family and if need be on our soil to defend my country. I will not at this time be able to pay the fee to join but would be willing to teach the things my father taught me. I learned how to make things to protect life, people and proporty that most people would have to have a firearm, bow, or things of that nature. I understand that we will not fight unless there is no way around it. I beleave that the constitution is our best gauge to keep our people free. I have been a securtiy officer and have defussed situations that my counter parts would not attempt even when they had a weapon and I had none. If I can be of any serves please let me know.
When I first raised my right hand to the square and pledged to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America, I swore, with my life to do so, and when, after more than thirteen years of active duty, I noticed that I was released from that pledge. One of the courses that I took during my stay in the military was one on leadership. It stated emphatically that I had the duty to oppose any order that went against all that was right, even if it meant placing my own Commanding Officer on report and following through with what needed to be done. I have recently been asked to join a group on facebook. It’s name is Sons of Liberty. This is a very strong name with lots of history and meaning behind it. The first sons of liberty were the men that stood up for what is right under God, put it in writing, signing the Declaration of Independence that they wrote and sent it to England, informing the chain of command that what they were doing was wrong and they were not going to stand for it. If this group of Americans can stand behind their oath and covenant to their God and Country, then please accept my humble services. Once a squid, always a squid. U.S.Navy Veteran Operation Desert Shield/Storm.
It is literally true “Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely” May God bless and save these united states of America.
I am an American Veteran of the U.S. Army I will be joining you all once I can afford to get the membership but I am with you no matter what
this is a Video of of my Tax Day Speech please leave feed back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vel4ET2LVKw
I am neither Republican or Democrat I vote for who I feel does the best job the problem with the system is that the Trust between those who run our country and those who vote is non-existent. The lack of trust is caused people making false or inflated promises they can not or know they can not keep. They are known for telling lies almost as far back as the founding fathers and thus leave us in a position to make choices we should never have to make.
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Well, congrats on getting the site up, it looks very good, I hope you can put up a pdf download of the 10 laws…I will copy paste and print for now, and will start passing it on to some of my sheriff friends in SF…they will have a hard time enforcing tyranny without the enforcers…Like Jack McLamb says, tyranny comes to your door in a uniform…I like to add, “The enforcers of tyranny “MUST” bare the brunt of the peoples resistence to it”..my quote! Pen and Sword in accord..thank you guys and god bless the free human spirit…
Norm, California
To the naysayers I say, we’re ALL going to die. Die standing up. To Oath Keepers I ask, does an older, retired and disabled cop qualify for membership? I still practice that one certain skill in case it is ever, God forbid, ever called upon to preserve, protect and defend. In any event, it is heartening to see a group of professionals willing to make the statement of Constitution over orders or party. The ‘Orders’ video was very powerful. Take care and may God richly bless you all.
I may be just a chick with absolutley no military or law enforcement experience. However, I for one would rather die fighting for my freedom than to live in the acceptance of oppression. I sincerely believe that Obama is a Marxist Dictator-in-Waiting. God help us all.
Orders We Will Not Obey…This is a great start, but it falls short. Our Military, Police and Sheriffs not only need to refuse to obey these treasonous acts that certainly loom on our horizon, but they need to immediately take action against the tyrannical government that would issue any such orders against our citizens and our Consitution. Obviously we all feel very threatened or this site would not exist. I ask, at what point will this rogue administration and the disgraceful anti-american liberal/communists that seek the destruction of our nation be seen for what they are…DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!!!
Our oath is to defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. A substantial portion of one of our major political parties now falls under the latter category, and the One may fall into the former.
The problem is, we can’t just kill them in the streets. Nor can we try them for treason and summarily execute them. But we CAN make their worthless lives miserable, by having a few of us at their heels at all times. Surveillance of their homes and offices, tracking their movements, greeting their public appearances with non-violent protests.
Oh, that’s right, I forgot…most of us WORK for a living, unlike their minions who mooch off of us…
When the time comes, as it always does in every long standing government, there is already a network in place to reduce the number of civilian casualties ( because as unfortunate as it is there always are some) and to support those who have the required skills to effect change according to the constitution in this country. If you have the skills i am referring to, (you know what they are) i would encourage you to stay in the military as long as you can. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. And most importantly, make sure you KNOW the person watching your six. HHOOAH SEMPER FI and God Bless America
Some breaking news-(well hasn’t broke yet)on the Eligibility issue.The layer for the cases has recieced info and photos of BHO’s COLB that is From and States he was born in Mombasa KENYA.Lawyer has filed motion on discovery and will be traveling to Kenya for verification of the pysical document evidence. Read info and See photo of the Kenya COLB here:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/
You’ll land on a page warning of it being a possible “attck site” Ignore it.I’ve been there repeatedly for the last few days in spite of it.My software says it’s safe for me.Most likely trying to keep folks from view the photo of the B/C and the info…
I am a retired District Conservationist Soil Conservation Service. The District Conservationist in each county was assigned as a member of the local county defense committee. This committee was composed of the director of the local ASCS office, executive director of the FhMA with the county agent a non voting member. In some of the western states additonal members were included from the Forest Service, BLM and Corps of Engineers.
What was our job? Like the current FEMA organization the USDA had issued to each county committee a 3 inch thick binder containing the handbook rules.
In the advent of a disaster the county committee had the authorizaition to confiscate any and all property, food, water, medicine and fuels in a county. All of this of course in cooperation with the National Guard, the police department and the sheriff’s office and assorted mayors and county commissioners.
But the real authorized power was with the county defense committee.
The handbook contained a section on the housing of people. Separate the sexes. All males 12 and older go with the men. Workers were to receive by formula a substantial larger amount of food than non workers. Yes, I have seen the handbook and for many years participated in quarterly training sessions with it and the other members of the committee. When FEMA was created all the members of the county defense committee were issued a FEMA card. We had these cards about a year. One day I received a telephone call to put the card in an envelope and mail it to my supervisors office. No memos were ever send telling us to do this. In my county office there were no paper trace that the card had ever been issued or existed. Shortly after that the county defense committee was disbanded and its operations and authorizations transferred to FEMA.
Based on my experience does the current FEMA handbook contain a section on the relocation of people. Yes of course.
I too swore the oath to support the constitution. I have put up my uniform but I have never recanted my oath to support the constitution of the Republic of the United States.
I fear there will be blood in the streets.
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If you believe the military and law enforcement will defend and protect the citizens and the old you had better wake up now.When the time comes for survial and surving who do you think will defend your rights?If you look at all the forgien countrys where the military rules with a dictator like the one we have in the ofice of president of the united states.I do not belive that our protecters will be our savors when food and water become scarce.Whom do you will be in charge?Answer the ones who control military!!
First of all I wish to make perfectly clear that I am Swedish by birth and not a US Citizen. As such many may feel, partly rightfully so, and in other parts wrongfully so, that I should not speak on this forum or on this topic as a whole.
I beg to agree in the sense that I am not unable, unfortunately, to join your excellent cause, but I beg to differ to such statements as to the simple fact that the Oath Keepers, as an organization, will no matter what happens, need a strong International approval rating to succeed in it’s undertaking to protect the foundation of it’s national interests. First and foremost that of protecting the way of life you all have earned a right to, be it by your own actions or by generations of ancestry achieving these goals for you and your recognition of these ancestors efforts.
I would also like to clarify my standing in this topic as coming from a former military background, and I, as much as many of my friends and colleagues, clearly understand, agree with and appreciate your undertaking under the framework presented in your public appearances as well as here on the Oath Keepers website.
I have followed the recent times media with a sense of frustration and having served under UN flag before the mal-placed mix between NATO and the UN troops lead the whole ideal into a perversion of it’s originally intended function, I feel nothing but contempt for the disgraceful behaviour of many of my following “brother’s in arms” as portrayed for example by Belgian troops in Somalia and many other areas.
Your outlined ten basic orders you will not obey are commendable, and as someone prior to me pointed out, will with time need adjustment, but such adjustment is gradual and comes naturally to any and everyone of you I am sure.
The one thing I wish to point out, with the best of intentions, regardless of the nationality of the person or persons participating, be it natural born citizens, or foreign born citizens whom have taken the oath, as much as the Founding Fathers recognized it, there will come a time when original nationality and other feeble concerns will seem redundant, and for the sake of the preservation of your ideals as well as your national identity, a support from the international community must be established.
I personally have followed your progress via the Internet, including You Tube, and find, not very surprisingly, that given the clearly distinct dedication to preservation of your own territory and ideals, you will and should have a strong following and support also from many non US citizens.
I commend your strong will and good efforts, and I can only hope, as I fear this will not only affect the United States of America, that we manage somehow to build the same attention, and strong focus on the preservation of life, human dignity and human rights also in other parts of the world, when the Aggressors against your way of life initiates the same determined targeting of our lives outside the US as well.
I can see it coming already now, living in the United Kingdom, having even fewer rights than you have now, and also in my own native country of Sweden, seeing how the masses by some form of indoctrination have become to pacifist to even consider the government may be up to no good.
As long as men and women of strong integrity do not fear to do what is just, no matter the size of the obstacle, then humankind as a whole will still have a chance at survival.
As for my own experience from both military as well as civilian actions in the name of security and peace, I will never fail to remember the most rudimentary reason behind any action of any kind; De Oppresso Liber.
To the Swedish Anonymous:
I think it is fitting you close your post with the motto of the U.S. Army Special Forces. In English, “To Free the Oppressed”. Even three years ago I would have found it odd to be thinking of applying the skills that motto requires within the borders of my own country, but it has come to pass. Being American, in truth, is more a state of mind than a mere accident of birth or result of a legal process. This has been lost on most folk in this country anyway. So if the time comes for struggle here, we will not lose sight of the fact that there are many of you in Europe who are by far more outnumbered than we are here, and as in the past, God willing, the borders will be open for those still wanting freedom and to those who honor the
rights stated in our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
It is sad that most of those who have taken the oath to support the Constitution have never read the document, and those that have read it did so as children. The Republic is imperiled more by poor civics education than by any other single force. Keep up the good work Oath Keepers!
I’m a civilian, and have never served, but I still feel the obligation and duty to serve my country and uphold the Constitution, mainly by informing as many as I can about the agenda of the global elite. Education first is our most powerful tool in combating the tyranny that faces us today. Please realize the government is not our enemy, international bankers and the government officials who belong to the same secret organizations the bankers are in are our enemy, our “shadow government” that is trying to enslave us all. The Bilderburg Group, Trilateral Comission, Bohemian Grove and Council on Foreign Relations are a few of these groups, and all the highest levels of government are occupied by members of these groups. All that aside, I would like to thank all of you for your service, sacrifice and dedication to upholding the true America, and what the founders intended it to be. Believe me if the dark days ever come where we are forced to violence, and civil war is upon us, I will be standing next you as a Brother in Arms defending to the death the very natural rights you have sworn to protect. I would rather die defending these rights for future generations than simply give them away. I would rather educate and peacefully resist than turn to violence, but I will do whatever must be done to protect our rights.
Drew… I’m impressed with the website I spoke to you in Polson Montana a couple of weeks ago about the website and the 10 rules. You have done an excellent job. Gene in Montana
I took the oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. That’s why I want to join this organization. I would also like to point out that the president took the oath to protect and PRESERVE the Constitution, but I feel his is not fulfilling the oath of the presidency.
At no time in my life have I heard so many people – of all walks of life – professional, management, and labor; talk so openly of the need renew our republic. The politicians have formed a new aristocracy where they feel superior to the people and fear thier loss of power more than the anger of the people. The corruption of the judiciary by ignoring the tenants of the Constitution has signalled the complete failure of the current federal government. With the recent call by the Whitehouse to REPORT citizens that speak against the Healthcare reform efforts…the fears of all are being confirmed. God have mercy on us all – and God Bless TRUE Americans.
I was a little ambivalent about you until I had a chance to explore this site a little. I have to say that now I support you guts 100%. My grandfather fought in WWI, my dad fought in WWII, and my uncle in the Korean War. I married into a military family, My father-in-law was a career man in the USAF, a chief flight engineer (as is my step son stationed at Kadena), my brother-in-law is an in-flight refueler. My husbaand was on world wide deployment during the Viet Nam era and later cross trined into cryto.
What has been going on in our government has been wrong for a long time, but now it is beyond wrong and we are on a path to total destruction in the next 4 years if something is not done and soon. The Scriptures say that we are to pray for our leaders, but they do not specify what we are to pray for. I pray every day that God will protect this great country until someone with wisdone and knowledge can be put into office.It is people like you who will protect her and us.My prayers are with your men and women!
Lisa
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Nice Video. But where in the h311 is the US Navy? I know we have a reputation for not being able to shoot straight. But suppressive fire we can do.
Otherwise – great site.
I blogged it.
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2009/08/oath-keepers.html
And to my Marine pals. Semper Fi. And lest my Army buddies feel left out , I have a US Army cup on my desk that I use every day. And for my Air Force buddies – Aim For The Center Of Mass. It is more effective.
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Anonymous 2 has it right. Here is a portion of a speech by Abraham Lincoln in 1858 that says it about as well as it can be said:
http://www.vindicatingthefounders.com/library/index.asp?document=47
I realized many months ago what we may be facing in our GREAT country. To say that I am terrified is to put it mildly. As every day goes by, and I see what this government, especially those in the WH are doing, I grow more afraid. Not a day goes by, now, that does not bring tears. That I do not drop to my knees in prayer to ask for protection of this great country and its’ people.
BUT KNOW THIS!!! I will stand with you! I will not cower! I will not fold! I will not run! If I die, then let it be known that I fought for my country & for the very fabric of freedom. There is no greater cause & there is no greater honor!
I WIIL STAND UP STRAIGHT, LOOK EVIL SQUARE IN THE EYE & I WILL FIGHT!
More power to your arm. I was chatting to a good friend of 30 years and retired US General officer. He like many here is very worried about the events unfolding within the borders of the United States. Know that you have the moral and philosophical support of the members of the forces in Australia.
We are fortunate ‘down-under’ that our own current rather cowardly and reticent socialist government, has nowhere near the power over our citizens, than exists in the US today.
Know that you will have us guarding your backs … as ever!
We do not have the kangaroo and emu on our national crest without a good reason. Anatomically it is impossible for them to take a step backwards.
As with our fauna, we Aussies NEVER TAKE A BACKWARD STEP!
Keep your chin’s up… you’re not alone!
The time is coming when the people (us) will have to rise up and depose the dictator that was forced on us by the left wing press, and all his communist minions. We need to restore order and the American way. Their brainwashing, through the schools, and media, has to be stopped. We need to find the people with the balls to stand up to them and take back the government entities as per the constitution. American Civil War II is coming, the sooner the better. Keep your powder dry and watch you six.
Let me take just a second to remind EVERYONE that Oath Keepers is not about removing anyone from office, changing laws willy nilly or any use of violence except in Self Defense.
Any and all of the feelings expressed here are those of the Poster and are NOT those of Oath Keepers.
Our “Mission Statement”, “10 Orders we will Not Obey”, “Principles that we Stand For” and “What We Are NOT List” are all prominently displayed for all to Read.
Please do so.
CaptGooch
Moderator
Oath Keeper
There comes a time to STAND UP and be counted.NOW is that time!!We are obliged to give back To our country what it has so freely given to it’s people.I am 72yrs old,a vet,not as slim as I once was But as good once as I ever was.I do have some of those skills,mentioned above, and practice them reguarly.I have seen this developing over a long period of time.I swore the oath in’55.took it seriously then, and still do so. Comment by Bruce on the 18th of July put the right context on this issue when he wrote of his use of 3 boxes.I too hope the use of the first 2 boxes will bring us out of this mess. I don’t see it though. Hence, prepare the #3 box. GOD bless our country! GOD bless Those who serve our country,and GOD help those who get in the way!!! ‘NUFF SAID! Slim
I am a mid-30s major in the United States Army. I work at West Point and believe in the United States as it was designed, specified, and founded by our Founding Fathers. Your group, Oath Keepers, gives me faith that our American way of life will be recovered. Though times are dark, know that all Soldier swear “to support and defent our Constitution from all enemies, foreign or domestic.” Good luck and Godspeed. -Major X (West Point, NY)
I am a retired air force sergeant. I took that oath to protect the constitution and I agree with your declaration of orders not to obey. My business supports Oath Keepers and will publically display our support. Good luck and thank you for you service
“socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of the ignornant and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery….”
give me liberty…or give me death….
hooah
Thank God! FINALLY someone gets it. I am a history teacher (who specializes in military history), a gun owner and historical reenactor, and a patriotic and responsible American citizen. I teach inner city kids and have been very alarmed for years at the increasing number of people in this country who just want a handout, who will vote for anything that offers them something for free (whatever the cost), and who are both ignorant of, and unwilling, to defend the US Constitution. So-called “progressivism” and “trans-nationalism” will be the death of the republic if we do not stand against it. As Benjamin Franklin once famously said, “if we do not hang together then we will most assuredly hang separately.” Every other English-speaking country is now a socialist nation and borderline police state…if not for the Founding Fathers that is what we would also be.
Good luck and God Bless The Oathkeepers. Know that if that dark day ever comes, you will not be alone. The unorganized militia is alive and well, and will also defend the US Constitution.
I love my country so much. I see this socialist Muslim president trying to destroy what our founding fathers fought and died for. Every month I prepare myself to defend our constitution. I will be ready as millions of others to protect our constitution. GOD bless the USA.
You brought tears to my eyes! Thank you, and God Bless you!
One thing we all need to remember. AS has been said, the Oathkeepers goal is not political or agressive in any way. With that in mind understand that each state is sovereign under the 10th ammendment.
There are currently 37 states that have either passed resolutions or have currently pending legislation to reclaim thier individual sovereignty. Everyone needs to understand the implications of that in itself. http://www.drawaline.org
Also, your county sheriff is the most imortant and powerfull law enforcement individual in the nation. He is your servant and works for you. He has the constitutional right to assemble a milita in his own county to protect its citizens from unlawfull or unconstitutional laws and aggression from the Fed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJgPuNAh60
Take the oath and keep it close to your heart, having faith that your brothers will stand beside you in honor when called.
You are all a bunch of ignorant idiots. Read through the comments. There is not one that doesn’t have spelling, punctuation, and/or grammatical errors. And you idiots think that you know what you are doing and can run the country. What a bunch of wannabes! Stop playing soldier and grow up. Get a life.
As an RVN 11B10 vet and a career deputy sheriff…I’ve said these
things so many times…I might as well post my rededication. My
service is to God, Family, Parish, State and Country…the code I accepted is “Duty, Honor, Country”.
Every oath I have taken was to God and The Constitution…I’ve pledged
to obey and enforce laws…but pledges are based on the foundation of The Oath. Carry on gentlemen – to the sound of arms.
Matt,
This section is made available to the public for a good reason. To encourage discussion of our constitution and draw those members in who wish to take the oath or have already taken the oath to re-affirm.
No-one here has a desire to run the country, you misinterpret the posts. While many posts do not reflect the goal of Oathkeepers, they do come, for the most part, from men who have served, or are currently serving their country in some capacity, and have taken the oath.
Oathkeepers does not agree with every post here, our goal has nothing to do with politics or disposing the government or changing anyone’s mind politically. If you would read the 10 Orders you would understand what this organization is all about.
With that said, I have toask one question, since when was perfect grammer, spelling and punctuation a requirement of patriotism and those who wish to uphold and defend the constitution?
Those abilities and skills have no bearing on the goals of a true patriot. Your comment is rude and offensive, not only to Oathkeepers, but to many Americans you may yourself believe in, (although it doesn’t seem likely with an attitude like that) not to mention those who have died protecting your right of free speach.
This gives me faith that when the time comes I won’t be alone defending our constiution. I am not a current or former member of the armed forces or police but I will stand with you when the time comes. I owe it to my 1 year old daughter so she can live in freedom as our forfathers intended. My AR-15 is locked and loaded.
To those that infringe upon my rights, if you come to my house intending to take my arms you will take the business end of my gun. You may take me out but I gaurantee I WILL take some of you with me.
“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight; nothing he cares about more than his own personal safety; is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”
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Matt, you are a disgrace to all Americans. I’m ashamed to call you an American citizen.
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As an America, I support you wholeheartedly. As a soldier, I support the constitution of the United States of America. If the time comes for me to refuse and take action against an order that I see as unlawful, then I will do so willingly. I hope that our leaders come to the realization that their actions are steadily pissing off the American people, and that most red-blooded, gun toting Americans are only going to take so much shit. It’s what our country was founded on. Fighting oppression. As the federal government continues to gain power, buy out corporations, and oppress it’s constituents with bills such as the improperly named “Patriot Act,” it’s only a matter of time before drastic times call for drastic measures. Gun control doesn’t prevent crime since it only affects the law abiding citizen, not the uzi toting gangbanger dealing crack outside of our elementary schools. If our government decides to try and disarm the people, do you think LA is going to be a safer place for the store clerk, or the homie with a sawed-off shotgun? I couldnt believe that dipshit cop in your video talking about taking everyone’s guns. To quote Charlton Heston, “You can have my gun, when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.” I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, both foreign and domestic!
My biggest question in all of this is “how?” Is there no peaceable recourse? How does America cause loud enough an outcry to be heard by those so high up without violence? How can it be done without out being fed lies and blown off? An American president can come close to being impeached for getting a blow job, but what can be done about leading us into slavery? How do you get the bad guy who polices himself? The media wont cover it unless its getting killed, or screwed. So what is our alternative?
I can’t move as fast as I could twenty years ago, but my trigger squeeze and eyes are as sharp as ever–I just joined and I am proud to be an American, and a veteran. I will never forget my oath of office; I have taken this oath three times, twice in the military and once as a Peace Officer in Texas. It’s a priveledge and an honor to be a member of such a great organization such as this one. Thanks
For the moment we must remain vigalant, and watch our leaders carefully. The voting booths in 2010 will allow us to “weed the garden”, and see what we can do to put this great country back on the right track again, and we must remember that God has a very big role in all of this.
to Mat # 50–is anyone here holding a gun to your head ? If you are not happy to be here, you are a freeman, and you may take your leave.
as a vetran of the navy, I am fully behind you. I have had to refuse to obey both unlawful and immoral orders. this same belief still holds true in my life today. As far as i am concerned, it is still my duty to resist that which is improper and immoral at any time, no matter the personal cost.This is simply the way i was raised from my earliest recollection. I still take my induction oath very seriously, and will do whatever it takes to preserve,protect, and defend our constitution.with the coming troubles, be sure to be prepared. This isnt just in the way of material supplies. The important thing is to make sure you are right with God first.
I am not LEO or military, but I am glad to see people that I respect giving me a reason to respect them even more. I also appreciate the fact that if we do need to revolt, there are some who will stand with me, not against me.
Thank you for your service and your willingness to stand for this country.
For me, when the Good Lord put me on this earth in this great land, it was a given that I, as a citizen, took a similar oath, just being born here.
@knischansr , With talk and thinking like that no wonder the American people have been fooled for so long. Think long and hard about what all forms of service do. Protect your family and friends and your countrymen … or tuck tail and run? .Just remember our 4 fathers didn’t tuck tail and run. … Will you?
Thank you all that have served, are serving & everyone involved in this project.
I am nobody. I am just a single Father raising his 9 year old child on his own.
I read these responces here & I cry like a baby.
It makes what is going on so much more real to know that so many others know what is coming. Thank you so much. I often feel so alone.
I know that I will be left with no choice. I will have to fight or die & if I must die, I will die a free man helping to protect others like you have all helped protect us.
Thank you all so very much, that will stand by your oath & do what it takes against all odds to help me make sure my little boy & all the children of this country, have a future.
May God be with you & may God help us all.
Gentleman,
I thank you for your unwillingness to obey orders that will surely be issued sometime soon. It is clear the ruling elite is moving to rid America of the “uselss people” (the aged, disabled, vulnerable adults who cannot work), as well as those whose labor is no longer needed 0 there will be blood on the streets.
I believe you have captured the fundamental spirit and commitment to the original goals of this fine country. Nay others follow in your footsteps. We’ll need every one of you.
I feel safer knowing you guys are out there. I am a 62 year old woman who served in the Navy Reserves and worked for the government for 27 years. I may be kind of old and a woman at that, but before I see my country go communist, I will do everything in my power to see it does not happen. This situation we are in now will turn ugly and as for me I am willing to die save my country for my kids and grand kids. That is what being a patriot is about. Our forefathers put their lives on the line. God Bless each and everyone of you!
Can I join without any prior of active service?
I too will do nothing less than stand shoulder to shoulder with my beloved country men (and women) lest the outcome be the destruction of the liberty we hold so dear. I too would opt for the ballot or jury box, but should the need arise, make no mistake that what is worth living for is certainly worth dying for. We would all do well to take heed of Ken and Clarke’s comments referring to the presence of the Almighty. The liberty we enjoy was founded and declared upon acknowledgment and affirmation of the Holy God as it’s cornerstone. We must all repent and turn our faces heavenward. This and only this will assure victory over the evil that has beset our fine nation.
“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
Declaration of Independence
I have needed a sense of direction and thought for so long that we sure could use an organization that would be willing to stand up for what is right. As both a combat veteran, and former Police Officer, I have finally found what I needed. I’m in. My Life, Fortune and Sacred Honor. Well, no fortune but 2 out of 3 should count for something.
A friend of mine asked me to check out this site, and I am impressed. My question is: How do we get Oathkeepers, the NRA, the people that have been involved in the Tea Parties around the nation, and all the other entities that feel the same way together? When we can do that, then we unite those who believe in keeping our fundamental rights in these United States, and only then can we make a difference. I am sending this site to my friends and acquiantances, to ask them to also check this out.
God Bless us all
cleo…san antonio, tx
its comforting to know so many others who have served like myself are aware of the alarming trends and are voicing themselves and saying no. you will not find it so easy…..
Any soldier worth his salt knows when to disobey an unlawful order.
However, remembering that we are dealing with fellow Americans (badly misguided, logic-challenged, and/or ideologically kinked), we need to keep things peaceful as far as humanly possible.
Still, as Jefferson wrote:
“I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary,
too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.”
and
“The multiplication of public offices, increase of expense beyond income, growth and entailment of a public debt, are indications soliciting the employment of the pruning knife.”
And those quotes are from around 200 years ago.
It’s time to get back to the Constitutional basics.
There has already been an attack on the USA by Bush Sr and Cheney since 2001- The Military Commissions act of 2006 ushered into the East and North TREASON BY RUMSFELD, Bush, Cheney, Wolfowit
I support this site and what it stands for.
There is no doubt in my mind that the current administration and the democrat party as it is presently constituted and led are clear and present dangers to the American Constitution and the people of this great nation. This does not suggest that I do not hold the republicans culpable as well. Our political leaders have done nothing to protect freedom in this nation for a generation and more and these are the fruits that have been sown.
God save the Republic!
Where were these Ideas 8 years ago. I am most upset that Obama has not pushed back as hard as I would like, but this web page would never have been put up 8 years ago and many who are now wildly in favor of it would be the ones enforcing exactly the points you speak against.
As much as Obama has not definitively tossed out all Bush/Cheney outrages completely, many of those outrages like torture, and restoring defenses against poisoned food, or a poisoned economy are at least steps in the right direction. And despite scare tactics to the contrary, has not launched any new Cheneyesq assaults on any of the bill of rights.
i have been in the army for 11 year. 4 tours 3 in Iraq. i have to say I’m ashamed at the fact i never spoke my mind on how American rights and trampled and forgotten. i never spoke my mind. in the past 2 years now i have twin girls in my life and lost my father and grandfather both been in the service. i now come to terms what about 5 or 10 years from now if i keep quite what will this country will be, what future will they have. i will stand up now and I’m with you.
And where are those principals when Christian Supremacists enforce their religious views all around you? Will you stand by as openly narrow religious bigotry is enforced against those who have honor enough to stand up to it? Or will you stand for their freedom even if their religion differs from yours?
And where will you be when a real or manufactured crisis occurs and you are told to violate those rules to support “freedom” and “Christianity” even as that “Christianity” entails a sword swinging Jesus out to seek vengeance on all who oppose him, and “freedom” is the freedom to join or die.
In spite of what it might sound to your ear it is not crazy hypothetical, but subversion by domestic enemies those who take such oaths are sworn to protect America from.
It frightens me to see so many of you here willing to VIOLATE your oaths. The current administration was DULY ELECTED within the guidlines of the constitution. Though I disagree with the philosophy of said administration. NEVER would I take up arms against it. The revolutionary zeal withwhich it seems so many of you have to overthrow will be OPPOSED vehemently.
I’ve noticed that most of you defaming the patriots on this site do not post your names…I wonder if it is fear of retribution or just plain cowardice? The latter would seem more likely since this organization does not promote violence of any sort or any proposed military takeover of our government.The oath we have taken does mean that we will stand ready to defend, not instigate. If you read the 10 orders you would know that. But small minds think alike don’t they?
As for religion, the constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. I stand on my oath to uphold the constitution as it was written, not the perverse version those in washington have re-written to suit their personal gains and agenda, be they Republican or Democrat.
My thought also, is that you who condemn this noble cause have never served your country as one who truly loves it in any capacity.
Aparently you have the desire for government to take care of your every need. To change your diaper when it’s soiled and to make sure you are comfortable at night all tucked in tightly, istead of taking responsibility for yourselves and your own actions, all the while throwing slurs at those who fought with their very lives to give you the right to speak freely and incoherently. That is the real shame of our country, those who would stand by and allow our government to trample our constitution as if it were toilet paper…
“Major X” said:
“I am a mid-30s major in the United States Army. I work at West Point and believe in the United States as it was designed, specified, and founded by our Founding Fathers. Your group, Oath Keepers, gives me faith that our American way of life will be recovered. Though times are dark, know that all Soldier swear “to support and defend our Constitution from all enemies, foreign or domestic.” Good luck and Godspeed. -Major X (West Point, NY)”
Thank you Sir! “Duty, Honor, Country” is still the creed of many who have served and who currently serve – and not just at West Point. There are far more of us than our enemies would like to believe, or would like us to believe. Thank you for sounding off. I will post your comment as a stand alone testimonial on the site, and if you have anything else to add, please email us, or post an additional comment here.
Stewart Rhodes
Founder of Oath Keepers
PS – It would be a pleasure to speak with you anytime. PM me on the forum and I will give you my number. – and you may remain anonymous.
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never underestimate your enemies. Rumour has it that Darth Cheney re-assigned a 3-star general and some others to the portion of the Pentagon which was then hit by that cruise missile on 9/11. They has reportedly been planning on outing the Bush Crime Family (which had financed Hitler’s rise to power with $25 million). Your enemies do not necessarily act with honour, and you must prepare yourselves accordingly. From a person who mas met and known people from more than one American three-lettered national agency.
Just as those who came before me, I’ve crossed that line drawn in the sand. I pledge my Life, my Fortune, and my sacred Honor to the Constitution and to the Republic that is the United States of America, so help me God.
There are many of us who believe in supporting the constitution the way it was intended: to HELP us as a country. Our unamerican president sees it only as a nuisance and roadblock to his goals. Unfortunatley, their machine (smoke & mirrors, bag of tricks, etc.) is well oiled and has considerable momentum.
Those who support this site/cause, and others like it, have a common obstacle: We have no central unification. There are numerous organizations & militias, some of them just nut jobs who actually hurt our credibility, but I think to be an effective force, we need to come together somehow under a central figure or organization.
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Bruce,
The last thing we need is a central command. Read if you can find one:
The book: THE DORSAI COMPANION – The story: Amanda Morgan
What we need is just what we are getting. A general directive: Not On Our Watch – with various ideas on how to implement that depending on local conditions. It may be possible to defeat a man. It is much harder to defeat a mission.
After further search I find you can get the Amanda Morgan story at:
The Spirit of Dorsai (Dorsai/Childe Cycle)
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From my cold dead hand!….. I need that tatooed on my chest. Listen folks, email this site link to as many people as you possibly can. We’ve got our backs to walls here. SEMPER FI!
Just a point…the best defence is a Good Offense.
If you wait until They make there move…it will probably be too late.
Remember your history…our Fore Fathers won for two reasons, first, they fought frontier style, second…they didn’t quit.
Preparations should proceed accordingly.
And…if it comes to conflict, and I truly hope NOT…
Then we should fly the Black Flag…
No Prisoners/No Quarter
My husband is an FFL dealer, and I have an email group to whom I send articles, etc. regarding the Second Amendment and the assault currently being perpetrated thereon, along with ways to preserve and defend it. I was told about your website by one of my readers, and then this past weekend at the Costa Mesa, California gun show, I met the person who is my local reprsentative of Oath Keepers. He gave me his card, I went to this site, and I have now bookmarked it in my favorites and will pass it on to my readers. Best of success and thank you for being there. With perseverance and determination, together we will prevail in the onslaught against our Constitution and Republic.
Before you try to turn me into one of your me in to your “Brownshirts”, I would like to tell you that I am against your healthcare reform, I am against your spending, and I am against your administration. And I will and do tell everyone I come in contact with. There is no “transparency” in your administration. Just greed and lies and evil. I believe that you are destroying our country. I believe that you (Mr. Barak Hussein Obama) are not an American. You were raised in other cultures, and do not have the same traditions, history and values we do. You do not have the pride in America that we do.
Enough is enough! You are trying to change our country – overwhelming our institutions so that we can’t keep up with the changes, or organize enough to prevent the changes. After all we are not professional “community organizers”. I am a hard-working, loyal, patriotic citizens. I served this nation for over twenty years in the armed forces never asking that my life be spared and never fearing to give my life for my country. I was fighting for FREEDOM! I love my country and my stand is still the same. LIVE FREE OF DIE! You will NEVER be able to take love for America away from us. We will fight in the fields, in the mountains and the deserts if we have to. It ultimately will be your decision as you continue to try to destroy this great nation or come to your senses and place her (America) as your first priority and place your narcissistic despotic wants last.
Are you proud of becoming a dictator? You have grabbed the power, the banks, the car companies, and I am sure there are plans for more takeovers. You may have your “Hitler Youth” but we have a heritage of freedom and patriotism. We love this nation and again, you will never be able to take that away from us. You may have a running start, but in the end freedom will overcome. You will be disgraced as our worst president, as America’s first dictator.
You are not my president. I will do everything I can to make sure that you do not serve as dogcatcher, much less as president of this – the greatest country in the world.
So, please, add me to your list of “thugs”, “mobs”, and “domestic terrorists”. I would consider it a badge of honor.
Don Nelson
I am 51 years old and have taken the oath two times as a police officer. I have pretty much been minding my own business since leaving law enforcement 19 years ago to join the business world and chase the American dream.
After researching the Gadsen Flag history I decided to not only join this group but to also get my frist ever tattoo. I now have a tattoo of a Rattle Snake on my shoulder. The head and fangs are on the right and the tail is on the left. It is laying in the shape of the southern border of the U.S..
The Rattle Snake is found in America, it does not strike without provocation, it warns you before it strikes, but if provoked it strikes to kill.
I want to continue to mind my own business, but if provoked I will warn with my ballot but will strike to kill if provoked to protect my constitution and my family.
May peace and freedom prevail.
Michael
My name is Daniel Dore, I am 18 years old and about to enlist in the Maine Army National Guard. As soon as I take my oath, expect $30 from me. I believe the constitution does work!
Ignore the voices of the surrender monkeys. Your declarations of fealty to our constitution and to our way of life are witness to the greatness of our country. God bless America.
As a young Marine I took the oath to defend the Constitution in 1968. I have been going crazy because nobody seems to notice that it is now being shredded. I am so thrilled to find a group like this, people who are ready to defend the precious document our Founding Fathers drafted. I will continue the fight to honor and obey the laws and edicts that our Constitution espouses. I never thought I would see a communist(Van Jones)a Socialist (Carolyn Browner) and a Marxist (Mark Loyd) be advisers to the President of the United States. Obama said you can judge him and the direction he was taking the country be the people he surrounded himself with. We must be vigilant and protect the document that so many have died for. God Bless all of you and God Bless America.
G.L. Holmes
USMC/Viet Nam Vet and a proud American
When we are forced to surrender at the hands of young Americans who are following what they believe is a lawful order while fighting in the forces that guard this country.
This is when we will have to make a decision to assemble and die for what we believe is right.
Or disassemble and live with what we know is wrong.
Either way those of you who haven’t decided will have to decide which Americans will have to be KILLED.
You or them it’s simple but it won’t be easy.
DJ Smith
USMC / USARMY
I took my oath to defend my country/constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic in 1967. I will abide by that oath until my dying day whether by natural causes or by defending my country once again.
I’m older and slower than when I wore a younger man’s clothes. BUT I will fight when and where called.
God bless us and protect as we begin this fight.
Keep your powder dry!!
I have been a National Guardsman, an active duty Soldier, a Reservist and an active duty Airman over a 42 year period. I have survived 3 wars and am now a retired airman. I am also a Jew. I am afraid we are now facing the gravest time of our national life except for the war between the states. Count on me to be with you all should that time come while I live.
I, in a way agree with Bruce that we need to be more unified, maybe not under one earthly figure, but why not be unified, I think we all need more unification and to squabbles less. M. Simon and Bruce please e-mail me at dlake7@cox.net.
When I found Oath Keepers they asked what would I do to help and my answer was”Whatever it takes” and I still stand by that.I took my first oath in 1954(military) and again in law enforcement in 1963. It still is a meaningful and moving memory in my heart.If the call comes down my “ruck” is packed and ready to go. I wrote both my Senators about honoring their oath of office and Wyoming is standing up. Senator Mike Enzi co-sponsored S-1319 In short this bill means that laws have to conform to our Constitution before they can be passed. Hope we can get enough Senators to co-sponser this to get it through….. Duane
Greetings from Canada
We have a different history than you up here, and we’ve different mannerisms and governments…but when it boils down to it, all real men want to be free. I agree with your message. But you just gotta be careful how you go about it, especially with regards to race. The videos I saw were pretty one-sided caucasian events. Mix it up a bit of colour and you’ll seem alot more credible, mainstream, and can avoid being labelled as ‘fascists’ (which has already started, as you might know). Men are men regardless of race. Keep up the good work, brothers!
franc
This is an excellent list, as both a libertarian and strict constitutionalist, I find it heartening that there’s a movement such as this.
For your consideration, I would suggest you examine the issue of paramilitary forces and their use in repressive regimes. As seen in such regimes as the Third Reich, the USSR, most any repressive regime in the 20th century, and, most recently, Iran, paramilitary forces play a role just as if not more significant than traditional military or law enforcement in stripping the people of their rights.
Such forces are composed of people loyal to the regime, as opposed to people who entered law enforcement and military careers out of loyalty and service to their nation, making them unencumbered in their willingness to follow any and all orders. As such, I think it essential that your organization address your stance on them.
My marine friends and I were going to start something like this. Glad to see someone already has and would like to take part!
Interesting idea for an organization. However, I see more than a few commenting here that they think the problem “just happened” because an African America president was elected.
We watched guns seized, unlawful detentions and demonstrators corraled in “free speech zones” so President Bush would not have to view Americans celebrating their constitutional rights.
If police don’t think a sobriety check lane or profiling is illegal search and seizure, they do not belong in an organization with stated values such as this one.
We watched the DOJ, for 8 years under Bush target and arrest many in the US, including veterans like Keith Roberts or Congressman Mark Siljander.
Both spoke out against illegal government acts and not one law enforcement officer or serving member of the military said a word.
Veterans are standing by both and the hundreds of others being victimized.
I took my oath in 1965, served three tours in Vietnam in my 8 1/2 yrs in the U.S.Army. You can count on me to do my part in what ever may come.
I am glad my friends passed this link to me from Facebook, because I was asking myself this week what our military would do if it was called against us as American citizens letting our voices be heard. I personally believe we have men and women who are serving and once served would not come against this nation of peaceful protestors under any orders from the white house. Our Oval office has been taken over by people who planned and set out to destroy this nation as a Free and God fearing nation. I beleive when all is counted we will see many from this Presidency on trial for treason. But we as a nation must return to God who has blessed and kept this nation from day one of its birth up till now. We must always be on the side of God not God on our side.
I do want to thank you for putting me at peace on this issue. Im not a member of the Proud Military of this United States but I will stand with you as a retired military brat to uphold this Oath.
God Bless America
i did not serve in the military but I sincerely thank each and every one of you who served this country so I can be afforded my freedoms. I am so proud to be a citizen of this country and I will defend our constitution and uphold this oath with my life.
Millions of us are asking ourselves everyday, what can I, just one man (woman) do to combat the direction our country is headed in.
We can all communicate on the internet, text message and so forth but we have to actually do something, not just chat about it.
Get involved at your local precint level not just on the internet.
I hope OATHKEEPERS can make a difference.
Jim
Oathkeepers
I have taken my Oath twice. If I were to take it today, I couldn’t follow the orders of Obama since he has NOT provided a legitament birth certificate to proven he is qualidied to serve according to our Constitution.
There is a warning(many) out across the internet about the swine flu and our government planning to force it upon the people with the aim of-well-killing allot of us..Here’s the latest one.Guys some of the reports and evidence appears to be true.Who will help the people when he installs foreign troops to force the people and enforce martial law if people lose their heads.We need to remain calm and say “No” peacefully to not give him an excuse to order M/l.What do we do guys?Who can we trust?
Here’s the url.please go read this and chech out the related documents of evidence…
http://gerryzimmerman.com/tweets/david_icke_vaccine.htm
I’m there.
Not that it matters. I’m not in a situation where I called upon to violate someone’s rights. However, I will not stand by and watch either.
T. G. Desrosier
To my fellow patriots, God bless and protect you. I am a 66 year old warrior that served his country and remembers his oath. As all oppressors do, they underestimate the depth of our committmeent to the oath we all swore when we put on the various uniforms of the armed services of the United States of America. I WILL DEFEND AND PROTECT!!
Keep your canteen full and your feet dry.
God Bless America.
Jack
Very interesting and I learned today about “Declaration of Orders we will not Obey” in”Oath Keepers”. How come several U.S. Marshall and Secret Services and Home Land Security Enforcers did invaded many of innocent people who against Obama,Some of them were at State of Washington and other states. Did they follow ‘We will not obey” in Oath Keepers?. I believed that all enforcement officers should carry little books or cards to remind them selve follow the “OATH KEEPERS” with his’ or hers wallets or pocket. Unless bad guys like “terrorists” are wanted. But not to innocent good American Citizens. I am peace fighters not mean by weapons but use my own sense freedom speaking out rights to protect our American Citizens. I want to be members to “Oath Keepers”, I have tried to apply but through e-mails, I prefer application to fill out and send out with money U.S, Money order to office of Oath Keepers. My address is lubosewell@gmail.com then I will copy it and send to them with money order. Thank you
to qoute knischansr:
“There is not enough of you to make a difference or to stop the gov (military, police, FBI, INS, ATF ect.) from doing what they want, or enforcing whatever law they decide to make against the American people.”
Sir, I believe you underestimate the will of the people to be free. I’m sure some of the colonist felt the same way you do, saying “theres not enough of us to stop the government/king/whatever ruling body.”
I’m not even an American. But I want to let you know how much I admire you for your stand. The world is standing on the precipice of a new dark age, and her only hope lies in the hearts of Americans like you who still hold liberty dear.
May God bless you all, and good luck.
David
WOW!!! Thanks so much. I found this after watching the video of Sheriff Mack. Now I KNOW I am NOT alone. God bless us one and all, Matt
The following comment is a comment I posted on the Daily Press website http://www.vvdailypress.com/news/sept-14377-importance-teach.html in victorville after i seen conspiracy therorist posting youtube garbage on the 911 attacks. I am kinda sick of all this anti america 911 garbage it isnt even funny anymore. It’s actually starting to get on my nerves….
Dave
mojavegreen wrote:
I think all the videos from Youtube, break.com and the like are very entertainingo. Someone had a whole lot of time on their hands lol. If you got something from an relible source that is NOT from the university of youtube, or the collage of break.com, or simular sites that promote conspiricy theoroies. I am willing to look at it. I veiw anything from site like the abouve to be good entertainment put together by people that are pretty good at video auditing. Until then I’ll do what I have always done in the past. Remain a hard core patriot that is willing to protect my country as described in the Oath of Enlistment once the military acts on going after “domestic enemies”. That is one fight I will do back flips to be involved with. http://www.oath-keepers.blogspot.com/ and Oath Keepers http://oathkeepers.org/oath/.
To wear the uniform and state the Oath of Enlistment just to wear the uniform and get the benifits have no bussiness wearing the uniform. Those that have taken the Oath and are not willing to do what the Oath demands have no bussiness in my nations uniform. They are a serious disgrace to the service and a threat to this country. Domestic enemies CAN involve everyone from the president on down to the homeless person you see on the street and should be delt with not protected by inaction. The Oath is a life long contract not just one that ends at the end of your service contract. VVDailypress.com
9/11/2009 4:24 PM PDT on VVDailypress.com
My ggggGrandfathers fought in the American Revolution.
My Father spent many years in Germany in combat and in occupation. 12th Armored Dividion, Patton’s 3rd army….. He saw boxcars of dead Jewish people. He cries when he talks about it.
He did this so that we might not have to live in fear…………God Bless All of You in this organization.
I actually do wish the government would round up the <1% of you right wing wackos and put you away. You guys are a threat to the rest of us calm, rational Americans. I pray that we don't see another Oklahoma City.
The Declaration of Independence
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Fine words, well spoken… All military, police, politicians, and judges take an oath to protect the constitution… and yet the Supreme Court is poised to finally bury what’s left of American democracy in corporate money.
http://www.counterpunch.org/wasserman09142009.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/weissman09092009.html
The corruption in our society is utterly out of control and penetrates throughout the highest levels of government, industry, and finance. That is called “corporatocracy,” which is just another word for fascism.
and that government of the people, by the people, and for the people, has perished so sadly for Americans, our forefathers, and for me.
US Hypocrisy Astonishes the World:
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts09072009.html
This is not the America i was raised to believe in.
SORRY TO ALL MY FELLOW OATH KEEPERS, JUST STUMBLED ACROSS THIS SITE TONIGHT.
THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO MATT AUG 12.
DEAR MR. MATT I SEE BY YOU’RE COMMENTS THAT YOU LEFT THAT YOU ARE BETTER THAN ALL THE REST OF US.
YOU’RE RIGHT I AM AN IGNORANT PATORIT. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON IN AMERICA THESE DAYS. I CAN’T SEE THE TAKE OVER OF GM, CHRYSLER, AIG, HEALTH CARE, CAP AND TRADE, BANKING INSTUTIONS.
IN FACT I’M JUST PLANE DUMB. I BELIEVE EVERYTHING OUR CURRENT GOVERMENT SAYS. I HAVE MY HEAD UP MY BACK SIDE SO BAD THAT I CAN’T THINK FOR MYSELF, AND I NEED THE GOVERMENT TO TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CAN’T DO.
I WISH I COULD GROW UP, BUT BIG BROTHER WANTS TO CONTROL MY LIFE AND NOT LET ME DO ANYTHING ON MY OWN. I’M NOT SMART ENOUGH TO RAISE MY FAMILY TO KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG KNOW FREEDOM FROM A MONARCH ARE ANY SUCH THING.
I WISH I COULD GET A LIFE. THE LIFE I WANT ISN’T THE LIFE OUR CURRENT GOVERMENT WANTS ME TO HAVE.
I’M VERY CONFUSED WHAT I’M SUPPOSED TO DO.
DO I LIVE AS A FREE MAN OR DO I LIVE AS A SUBJECT OF THE STATE.
AS FAR AS WANTING TO BE A “WANNABE” OR SOLDIER I SERVED 4 YEARS AS A UNITED STATES MARINE. I WOULD GUESS TO YOU THAT IS NO BIG DEAL. I CAN TELL YOU MR. MATT MY TITLE AS A MARINE CANNOT BE BOUGHT, WILLED BY AN ANCESTOR,TRADED NOR STOLEN. MY RIGHT AS A MARINE WAS EARNED. WOULD YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT FROM ME?
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU MR. MATT WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR AMERICA BUT TAKE TAKE AND TAKE.
DO THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE SERVED TO DEFEND THIS COUNTRY AND THE CONSTITUTION OWE YOU MORE?
IN MY HUMBLE OPINION YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A LOSER A NO BODY AND A WANNABE BECAUSE YOU CAN’T CUT THE “MUSTARD”. MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET A LIFE, GROW UP AND SMELL THE ROSES. BETTER YET MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY WHERE YOU’RE KIND ARE GOVERNED BY DICTATORS.
I AM A FREE MAN MY GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE FREE IF YOU DON’T LIKE THAT GO CRY TO MOMMY. HAVE A NICE DAY. ALSO I HAVE TRIED VERY HARD TO SPEL MY WRDS RIGHT AND PUT PUNITIONS WHER THEY BELONG SORRY FORE ANY BAD GRAMMER.
TO MY FELLOW OATH KEEPERS AND PATROITS, MY FREINDS AND NEIGHBORS, REMEMBER IT’S A LONG WINDING ROAD BUT IN THE END WE ARE AMERICANS AND PATORIOTS. DON’T LET BOZO CLOWNS LIKE MR. MATT GET YOU DOWN OR MAKE YOU MAD. HAVE ONLY PATIENCE AND HOPE FOR IGNORANT WANNABES GET A LIFE WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR ME PEOPLE.
SEMPER FI MIKE
[...] What you are witnessing is the federalization and amalgamation of the US police forces into the DHS. These fusion centres are stacked with surveillance technology. The SS created the exact same sort of institution in 1939 through the amalgamation of various security forces. In German (Reichssicherheitshauptamt), it was called the Reich (Homeland) Security Main Office. Coincidence? Once these institutions are formed, like weapons of war, all they await is the intent to be used against the people. One could hardly ask for a better illustration of the militarization of civilian enforcement agencies. And spooks – StatismWatch sees you reading this stuff from Quantico, from Arlington, from mil.gov, from Fintrac, and various letter agencies – we’re calling you out. You know this is wrong. It doesn’t matter if you work in the mail room – you can do something about this. Take a page from orgs like Oath Keepers. [...]
My father is a 85 year old Marine, a survivor of Iwo Jima. He was 10 feet away from the men on Mt.Suribachi who put the flag up and photographed them as well. He has tales to tell of blood, lost lives and bravery. He was an immigrant to our country in the 20’s and loves it to death and has instilled in us the love for it as well. He mourns everytime we speak of the way things are going, in heart he has joined your noble band. God bless you, you who protect and defend us against enemies at home and abroad and Godspeed!
. . . you guys are really scary.
None of this crap that you say is happening is actually happening.
Moreover, you forget that Bush was the president that presided over the initial huge chunk of federal economic stimulus/assistance. None of you guys screamed about that. And you seem to forget it was Bush who presided over one of the largest expansion of Federal powers and Federal bureaucracy in the history of our nation.
You talk about warrantless searches, yet you weren’t concerned about the Bush administration authorizing warrantless wiretaps.
Why didn’t you put together your Oathkeepers organization when all that crap was happening under Bush?
Now, it’s Obama, who inherited the economic catastrophe that was the result of eight years of the Bush presidency, and now according to you guys it’s literally the end of the world.
You take an oath to not use the military against its own citizens, but I bet you didn’t object too much when the National Guard shot college students who were protesting the Vietnam war (who, by the way, were exercising your stated oath and constitutional right to protest, utilize free speech, and petition the government their grieveances).
What did you say to somebody who protests against a particular war that America is involved in? You know what you say: “America – love it or leave it!” Apparently, now that its you guys who are unhappy, that little saying isn’t quite as convenient as it once was.
You’re such hypocrites, you sicken me. I fear for this nation, not because of the current administration and its policies, but because people like you are fomenting hatred, intolerance and extremism, all under the false guise of “patriotism”.
I am proud of what you guys are doing. almost my entire family has taken the oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Though I am not in the armed forces, nor have I taken that oath, I serve the U.S.A.F. Auxiliary, Civil Air Patrol as a loyal member. I proudly wear the U.S. Flag on my right sleeve, and am proud of my family, veterans past and present, and I will defend this nation no matter the cost
Semper Vigilans
1) I am an American fighting man. I serve in the forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.
2) I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender my men while they still have the means to resist.
3) If I am captured, I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.
4) If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me, and will back them up in every way.
5) When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am bound to give only name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies, or harmful to their cause.
6) I will never forget that I am an American fighting man, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.
You have listed 10 rights, that most of us ex-military personnel never followed;
1) Read the Constitution, Article III section 2 item 2
(read all of Article III)
2) Read Article I, especially Sections 5, 7, 8,
especially Section 8-11
A) The Korean War (which was not a war but a police action and all of us in that war (by your standards) failed to up hold the Constitution item # 11
B) Vietnam War same as the Korean War, but millions of Americans (Liberals) protested (a few were killed in Ohio–Where was you people than, I will tell you where—your group was busy calling us Commies and traitors.
C) Iraq War Same as A & B no compliance with Article I Section 8-11—-Were are these military people that say they are ready to stand up to the Oath (but only after the war is over, not now Bush would be unhappy if we did.
D) Afghan War probably is the only war that is half right (but still not in compliance with the Constitution Article I, Section 8-11. I only see a few service men refusing to go to Iraq or Afghanistan.(The ones who refused are in jail) where is your group helping these cowards, opps”"”"” I mean patriots!
Put your 10 Principals to work and start withdrawing your Patriots from Iraq and Afghanistan
ALL TALK AND NO ACTION
Come on paper tiger!
milt
Soon to be 65 years old, X-US Army, X-Deputy Sheriff, 18 years owner of a small gun shop and FFL holder, and presently still part time security officer. God bless America. All this trouble we are in started way back when I was still a little fella and it has just been steadily building all these years. It is just now coming to a head. We have allowed it to happen. We, including myself, have been snowed by these power hungry, corrupt politicians. And if we don’t start voting them out of office, it is only going to get worse. It is not too late. Contact your government officials and let them know that they are not any better than we are. That they need to pay into social security, that they need to get the same health care benefits that they are trying to push on us. That they need to serve 20 years or more in office to get a retirement. This elitest crap has got to stop. Make them responsible for their actions/inactions. I don’t care what party, if any, they belong to.
Matthew Scott – Southwest Florida
Uh, can anyone say “treason” and “dereliction of duty”? Before any military folks or cops out there start making oaths or promises to fringe organizations, think about what you’re doing and what this group is asking you to do.
“We will NOT obey any order to disarm the American people.”
Cops legally and properly confiscate guns every day from criminals. Who’s drawing the line between taking illegal guns and “disarming the people”? This kook? Try telling your sergeant that you’re not going to take a gun from a guy violating your state’s concealed carry law and see how far that gets you.
“We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people, their homes, vehicles, papers, or effects — such as warrantless house-to-house searches for weapons or persons.”
Cops conduct warrantless searches EVERY DAY. When an officer impounds a car and conducts an inventory search, he doesn’t go get a warrant. When a bad guy is arrested and searched, there is no warrant. THINK about what this nutjob is trying to get you to promise!
“We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a ’state of emergency’ on a state, or to enter with force into a state, without the express consent and invitation of that state’s legislature and governor.”
I thought this guy wanted us to follow the Constitution? The Constitution gives Congress the power to suspend habeas corpus, an act that would constitute the imposition of martial law. It’s been done once in U.S. history, during the Civil War. Trying disobeying an order in a similar situation and see how fast you end up in a court martial…or in front of a firing squad.
“We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty and declares the national government to be in violation of the compact by which that state entered the Union.”
Holy cow! Is this one also called the “treason” principle? Hey, folks, this ALREADY HAPPENED! It was called the Civil War. It established that there is no right of secession. Do we really want to go down this path again? And if we do, do YOU want to be on the wrong side?
“We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.”
Sure wish we had followed this one during WWII. Or is there an exception for racial minorities?
We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control” during any emergency, or under any other pretext. We will consider such use of foreign troops against our people to be an invasion and an act of war.
Let’s not hope anyone else in the world gets this idea, especially anyone in Germany, the UK, Japan, Israel, Diego Garcia, Cuba, South Korea, Iraq, Gabon, Liberia etc., etc., etc…
THINK, PEOPLE, THINK! Even if you are upset about the current political climate, please don’t just blindly follow any crazy person who throws up a flag and claims patriotism. Do your own critical thinking!
I think that everything is going to fall into place (for Obama) when the “Swine Flu” shots are given. After …many…get the shots and people then start getting sick….we will then have a…”pandemic”. Everyone now is totally wrapped up in the Health Care Reform Bill….while they are working diligently and quickly to get this Swine Flu out to us (unbenownst to most people).
They are ready to keep track of those who…”do not”….take the shot. Either way, one loses…take the shot of the flu that was created for us in the lab!!…or go on the….”balker list”. They can then call in Martial law because we now have a ……”pandemic” and some people do not want the shot. So, what happens to those who resist and say…”no”!!!
Dear Scared,
When I served in the Army in the post-Vietnam years, we were carefully educated on the subject of following orders. (Read up on your history) Clearly you were not. For example, just as you point out that a soldier can be brought up on charges for failing to follow an order (a lawful one), soldiers can also be brought up on charges for FOLLOWING an UNLAWFUL order. It is your duty as a free thinking American Soldier to know the difference.
I think you dont give us enough credit. Or perhaps you just dont like the idea that there are free thinking people out there willing to die to protect the ideals this country was founded upon.
Personally I havent made up my mind about this site yet. But I do know I dont like your post because it’s just as absolute as the “kooks” you propose to slander.
Funny, all the critics coming out about how scary people such as me are? They list a laundry list of previous offenses such as Kent State, Korea, Bush the last 8 years on and on.. To justify more bad behavior. These very same people list issues that are of concern. I on the other hand have just begun to WAKE UP, turned the alarm clock off finally, have put my feet on the floor and I AM OPENING my eyes to the crimes that have been and are being committed to the American way of life. I look back to the early 1900’s and see actions all designed to move America towards Socialism/Fascism. IT ISN”T ABOUT ANY ONE ISSUE OR PRESIDENT!
I for one can’t make the critics learn history or understand the motives of Despots but you just have to do it for yourself, NOBODY wants to do it for you and not get a return for their efforts. So if you don’t wake up open your eyes and look past the sound bites you might as well go back to bed, don’t bother to call 911 when guns are blazing, fires are raging and Tree of Liberty is growing once again.
YOUR SILENCE IS CONSENT! ASK THE TOUGH QUESTIONS, WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE AND HOW. DON’T EXCEPT SPIN TYPE ANSWERS, DEMAND YOUR SENATORS ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, MAKE THE REPRESENTATIVE DO THEIR JOB AND REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THEIR DISTRICTS! LOOK INTO HOW YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS RUNNING AND TO WHOM DOES IT WORK FOR? Only when you look into how you are responded to will you understand why I and millions others are getting out of our proverbal beds and getting involved with our Government and the peoples business. So my critics and detractors, your shouts of Scary or Racist or MOB, whatever it is has no effect. Your are still asleep and should stay inbed and maybe you’ll get out of this coming historical event with you hide intact.
To The Naywayers:
I read accusations of “hypocrite”, “loser”, “fomenting hatred, intolerance and extremism” towards oath keepers. I wish to respond with questions of my own.
I am a 51 year old mother of six. I don’t like the thought of civil unrest or violence. I too was alarmed when I learned of the so-called Patriot Act’s violations of privacy, enacted under George Bush, under the auspices of keeping us safe from terrorism. On the street an ACLU activist and I had a long conversation about this very concern, and my husband and I agreed with that young student’s concerns, most whole heartedly. I even signed his petition. I will support any one’s effort to guarrantee our freedoms in this country, even if I don’t agree with the extent some of these freedoms are taken to.
That having been said, I have to ask you sincerely, you who attack oath-keepers–what are you afraid of?
I suppose that in your mind, the answer should be obvious, but I ask again, what is the danger of refusing to go along with any attempt to deprive the American citizen, such as yourself, the civil rights put forth in the Constitution? What makes you so angry about that? This is a sincere question, and I hope ;you will not take it as some kind of back-handed insult to your intelligence, it is not.
Is it that you dislike the implied accusation of the current administration’s possible attempts to deprive citizens of those rights, and you do not believe there is merit to those concerns? It is understandable that you would not like to hear someone you genuinely admire and support disparaged–I would not either.
Do you not think that anyone in public office need be afraid of these types of citizen movements, if he or she supports the Constitution? If the people in office who you support are simply misunderstood, then history will bear that out, and they certainly do not need to fear a group like Oath-Keepers, am I right?
I understand that one of the largest demonstrations in history occured on September 12 in Washington DC, was vastly underreported by the press. Whether or not you agree with the purpose of that demonstration, you have to admit it was historic–particularly because it was peaceful. The reports from law enforcement about the event describe disbelief that such a large group could assemble without any act of violence, without leaving a ton of trash for others to pick up, and with virtually no arrests. That was historic. If the people in this country who claim to love the Constitution behaved in any other fashion, (Nearly 1.2 mission in DC alone) Regardless–even if it was the CNN count of ten thousand–If violence and mayhem occurred, I would say you may perhaps have a point in your criticisms.
Do people have the right to resist being deprived their liberties? DO they? Do YOU want that right? Please share your answer.
I just want to say I will be there with all my brothers to uphold what we know is true. I will fight for my famly and for my FREEDOM!!!
Pauline:
Here’s what I’m scared of: people who, in the guise of “patriotism” seek to bring down, or at least discredit, other Americans whose only offense is a different political point of view. I’m also scared of the tactics used by these people, specifically the nearly complete disconnection from reality, reason and facts.
For example, you write:
“I understand that one of the largest demonstrations in history occured on September 12 in Washington DC, was vastly underreported by the press.”
Not true. It was a large demonstration (several hundred thousand by most reputable estimates), but nowhere near “one of the largest”. Nearly every Presidential inauguration crowd (occurs every four years) was larger. And it WAS covered by the news media. All three networks had stories on the evening news (their flagship broadcasts) and CNN and MSNBC had live shots from it all day long. The liberal Washington Post had a front page story on the protest with a photo. Fox News was practically a sponsor…or do you not consider them part of the “press”? This is “vastly underreported”? What did you want, reporters to come to your house and tell you about it personally?
“The reports from law enforcement about the event describe disbelief that such a large group could assemble without any act of violence, without leaving a ton of trash for others to pick up, and with virtually no arrests.”
Where are these reports? Please show me just one authentic “report” from “law enforcement” expressing “disbelief”. Large crowds regularly assemble on the Mall without arrests. We’re used to it here in D.C. Maybe you’re not, but we are. More than 1 million people regularly assemble for inaugurations without any arrests. We’re not shocked by it.
So that’s what I’m scared of. Angry and scared people so wildly disconnected from the facts that they are willing to believe/make up/endorse absurd claims that validate their fear and anger. I am afraid of fringe wacko ideas seeping in what used to be the sane, moderate middle ground of American politics.
Ideas like there is a movement to convert America to socialism/communism/fascism (as if these are all the same thing.) Ideas like the swine flu and immunizations are an Obama conspiracy to declare martial law. Ideas like all US police forces will be federalized under Homeland Security. Ideas like our President is a foreign impostor and was illegitimately elected. (That last one is so original and so kooky, I have to give you guys credit for your creativity.)
It’s BS, and the majority of Americans are intelligent, hard-working, patriotic people who see through the crap and will stand up to be counted when needed. (Like in elections. Take a look at recent national elections. Do you see a rising move to the right? I sure don’t. Should tell you something about how few Americans see things the way you do. Another clue should be the fact that tea party and other similar crowds are nearly overwhelmingly middle-aged or older and white. Not exactly the demographic the country is trending toward.) You all have the passion but not the numbers.
And for all you making your thinly veiled threats about “guns blazing”, “fires raging”, “I’ve made my choice”, “watering the Tree of Liberty”, etc., why don’t you just come out and say what you mean: you want to overthrow the U.S. government. Come on, get it off your chest! Stop using code words and just admit what you are: traitors. That way we can deal with you in the appropriate manner. God forbid anyone stops just talking about violence and actually takes action, the response will be so swift and severe it might just drive the nutjobs back into the shadows.
Finally, why are so many right wingers such bad spellers and grammarians? Apparently few of you got the message that education is the way forward in life…
Mr Scared,
I will attempt to portray my thoughts in a succinct and poignant manner free of gramatical or spelling errors.
Mr Scared,
When does a man know he is no longer free?
He knows it later, because he feels it. Down in his gut, he feels he is no longer free.
Freemen understand natural rights or inalienable rights are rights which are not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs of a particular society and most importantly, they know when these laws are being violated against them.
Mr. Williams:
Oops! Nice try but you came up short. Let’s proofread your post:
1. “Mr” should have a “.” at the end since it is an abbreviation.
2. “Grammatical” has two m’s. (Note the irony of making a spelling error in the very sentence where you declare your intent to avoid spelling errors!)
Now let’s address the substance of what you wrote. You alledge that a man knows he is not free when he feels it “down in his gut”. That’s all it takes? A gut feeling? So anyone who “feels” he is not free can take action, no matter what the objective analysis of his state of freedom is?
I believe that one’s freedom is such a sacred right that deadly force could be used to oppose someone trying to take it away. I assume you agree. Now let’s apply your “gut feeling” proposition to this belief. Apparently anyone who has a “gut feeling” that he is no longer free can employ deadly force against his perceived oppressors.
Do you see how dangerous this is? What if the person having the “gut feeling” is mentally unstable and his “gut feeling” has no basis in fact? What if the person with the “gut feeling” is mistaken and is confusing anger at his political opponents with a “gut feeling” about a loss of freedom?
I’ve had numerous “gut feelings” over the years that turned out to be false due to misperception or misunderstanding. Do I want to deploy deadly force based on a “gut feeling”? Hell no. But apparently you do. That’s scary.
Dear Mr. Scared,
You can live on your knees or die on your feet.
Apparently you will choose the former.
BTW… I do not consider myself Left-Wing or Right-Wing, those are simply labels people use to put someone in a box.
Do you believe the government is correct in taking over private industries? Taking over Health-Care? Bailing out Wall Street Banks? Turning over the issuance of the currency to a private corporation? The list goes on and on. Unfortunately I must get to work to pay for a government that overspends past it actual revenues and then must sell Bonds to foreign countries to make up the difference, in the meantime devaluing the currency, and leaving the future generations of Americans to attempt to pick up the tab while devolving into a third-world nation.
It may be surprising, but there are actually people in this country who do not need the government to help them with every problem they have from cradle to grave.
In your opinion sir, is the Government the answer to all of life’s problems?
Mr. Williams:
You can “consider” yourself whatever you want, but your statements clearly put you well out on the right wing of the American political spectrum.
You make some wild allegations common to anti-government wackos. Where are the facts behind them?
What private industry is the government taking over? For the past 30+ years the federal government has been on a wild de-regulation kick, and yet you think the government is TAKING OVER private industry. Where is the evidence of this? De-regulation of the airline industry, phone company, utilities, banking and finance industries has all happened since the 1970s. This is a government hell-bent on “taking over” private industry? The facts not only don’t support your fears, they support the EXACT OPPOSITE.
You ask if government is the answer to all of life’s problems. The answer is of course not. It’s a silly proposition. NO ONE in mainstream American politics thinks government is the answer to all of life’s problems. The fact that you even ask the question indicates how far outside of the middle you are.
No one wants government to answer all of life’s just like no one wants business to answer all of life’s problems or wants the individual left alone to answer all of life’s problems by him/herself.
Here’s a little life lesson I’ve learned that I’ll pass on to you, free of charge: the answer to nearly any situation, especially large complicated ones with lots of moving parts, is usually somewhere in the middle of the two extremes.
Is a fully government-run society the best answer? Not at all. Is one where government is nearly non-existent the best answer? Not at all. There needs to be balance. Reasonable regulation contributes to this balance.
Until recently, nearly everyone recognized this and the debate was over incremental changes on how this middle ground was to be achieved. But now the far right side of the American political spectrum has started to invade the middle and their wacky conspiracy theories and virulent anti-governmentism has infected what used to be a common-sense middle.
If your mind is at all clear enough to grasp any part of reality, consider this: list for me, please, how the government is making you “live on your knees”. How is it making you less free on a daily basis? I’m willing to bet the list will be quite short.
Don’t quote for me shadowy theories about currency policy, attempts at socialism, foreign bonds, etc. Just list how the government is unreasonably restricting your daily life. How the government keeps you from getting to work, shopping for groceries, surfing the web, going to the movies, enjoying your family, whatever it is you do day to day.
Maybe, just maybe, if you focus on your daily life, instead of looking for phantoms to be afraid of, you might realize how free you really are.
Following is a very real “phantom” – I do not want to consume this forum so I’ll rest my case with a little scam being pulled with our economy by our government and the Federal Reserve. In this scam the middle-class does suffer. Feel free to research the thoughts that follow and God Bless. I’ll give you the opportunity for the last word.
In an exclusive IDE interview last fall, former Assistant U.S. Treasury Secretary, Paul Craig Roberts warned that our continued military “over reach” would be the death blow for the dollar.
Our military “hubris,” as he put it, has eroded US authority and credibility and prompted the rest of the world to move away from us. He said the only way we can solve the financial crisis was to slash the military budget and put an end to “gratuitous” wars.
Has Washington listened? Of course not. While more and more Americans are moving into tents, a military juggernaut is being built in Afghanistan
In a recent article titled, The Expiring Economy, Roberts pointed out that during the “worst economy since the 1930s,” the administration has”embarked on a $1 billion crash program to build a mega-embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan.”
Who is going to pay for the $636 billion national “defense” budget the House just approved, he asks. What happens when foreign countries have no more surpluses to recycle into dollars? And what happens when the Fed can’t print more dollars without driving up prices?
That’s when Uncle Sam will come back to us, we predict, and float the prospect of a nice, fat tax increase on the middle class.
We may soon find out the answers to Professor Roberts questions. Foreign buyers of U.S. Treasurys have already started leaving the trading floor
At the end of last month, the U.S. 5-year Treasury bond auction effectively failed. If it were not for the primary dealers – those required to bid in exchange for their status as “primary dealers” – there would not have been enough interest to fully subscribe the issue.
Failed bond auctions are the hallmark of third world banana republics. What does this say about the United States? That we have finally reached our credit limit?
This is very bad for the Fed and the Treasury. So it should come as no surprise to learn that they are trying to hide it from the market.
One day after the “failed” 5-year auction, an auction of 7-year Treasury bonds went surprisingly well. The mainstream media reported that demand was strong. But how could that be, considering such weak demand for shorter-term Treasurys the day before?
Now we know the answer. And it’s not pretty.
Primary dealers purchased $10 billion of those bonds… and then five days later turned around and sold $4.8 billion of them to the Federal Reserve.
In a deal that would almost have to have been pre-arranged, the Fed came in and took those bonds off the hands of the primary dealers. We presume they felt that five days later was long enough for the trail to go cold. Thankfully, we have independent researchers who do the job our captured media should be doing. Chris Martenson was the first to dig it up. He writes:
“A more honest and open approach would have been for the Fed to simply buy them outright at the auction,” he said. But by using “primary dealers” and “POMOs” they clouded the fact that the Fed is openly monetizing U.S. government debt.
Why isn’t the mainstream financial press on this story?
We don’t know. But keep your eyes on IDE and we’ll keep you plugged in.
Yes, the stock market has been screaming skyward for several months, but watch out below. These are signs of financial desperation. The demand for U.S. Treasurys is not nearly as strong as advertised. And the Federal Reserve is trying to hide that fact from U.S. citizens through subterfuge and concealment.
Oh, and don’t forget… the U.S. is scheduled to borrow another $400 billion next quarter.
Scared,
It is an unfortunate truth that most political or ideological movements are defined by their most extreme elements. You should, therefore refrain from judging Oath Keepers and it’s founders by the more extreme posts to their blog. Extremists always seek to take control of the debate through vitriol and the advocating of violence.
If you actually read the contents of this website, you will see that nobody in this organization is advocating the over through of the government. What is being advocated is resistance. Oath Keepers talks mostly about what they will not do. In short they, as the protectors of the American people, will not participate in any plan or obey any order that seeks to oppress them. I fail to see how that can be perceived as a threat to anyone except those who seek to do just that.
While I believe that most of the more extreme posts here are plants designed to discredit oath keepers, I don’t doubt that some of them are genuine. What you fail to realize, Scared, is that people are becoming frightened by a government they perceive as slowly and relentlessly eroding our freedoms through legislation and judicial activism. Whether or not you believe or agree with it is immaterial. The fear is out there and it is real. In your arrogance, you believe that because we don’t all agree with you we must be cooks. Be very careful of dismissing as fringe that which you don’t understand. There is a ground swell out there which may overwhelm you.
If I may, I would like to provide a little personal background that may help you to understand what is going on with many people. I do not presume to speak for everyone but maybe just a few. Members of Oath Keepers, consider this my testimonial.
I am a 45 year old white conservative male and, therefore, Scared, by your definition I’m sure, a racist, right wing, cook, though I take umbrage at the label of racist. Because of the economic downturn I find myself once again working at an entry level position at a financial institution. But I can’t complain because, hey, at least I’m working. An ever growing number of people in this country are not so lucky. When I turned 18 it was a couple years into Ronald Reagan’s first term. I registered as a Republican and joined the Air Force. I did these things because of my respect and adoration for Reagan. My feelings were due in large part to the fact that I had grown up under Nixon, Ford and Carter all of whom, along with the political debacle known as Vietnam, had done terrible damage to the morale of this country. Because I was young and idealistic I found Reagan to be a breath of fresh air in a stale room. He talked of the greatness of this country and its people not its government. He made it OK to be an American again. He talked about peace through strength and his words and enthusiasm filled me with patriotic pride and a desire to serve my country. He validated my belief that it is the people of this country, not the politicians or the government, which are its greatest strength.
So I graduated high school and went straight into the service. For private reasons I did not make a career of it, a decision I’ve always regretted. In any event, that was the time at which I decided I really needed to start paying attention to politics. Although my life has had many ups and downs since then my political ideology has never changed and I have been a registered Republican ever since. When I was young I was staunch in my loyalty to the party. That loyalty remained until Bush 43 and through most of his presidency even though my suspicion of government and my lack of faith in the Republican Party had been growing for sometime. Where else am I going to go, the Democrats? They’re worse and the other parties are all fringe as far as I am concerned. But now that I’m not so young and blinded by idealism, I can look back and see that party affiliation is irrelevant and that Reagan was just a bump in the road as this country, along with the rest of the world, continues its relentless journey toward world socialism, a journey that began at least as far back as “The New Deal” and maybe before.
People on these blogs keep harping about Republican vs. Democrat, right vs. left, liberalism vs. conservatism and it makes me nauseas. Conservatism is an ideal that I and many other Americans (more than you may want to admit) still embrace. The problem is that the debate about it among elected officials is all a sham. That debate no longer exists. The debate now is over a difference of opinion on how to spend the money they steal from us and how they can take over more and more of our lives without us resisting. Many people complain about the evil greedy corporations and their endless evil pursuit of profit. I would say the government is worse than these corporations except that they’re all in collusion. Some of you people complain about the lobbyists and say they’re just throwing money at which ever party it is that you don’t like. Wake up! They’re throwing money at all of them, that’s their job. That’s how the corporations and special interests are always able to get there little exemptions written into what ever bill concerns them, rendering whatever is being voted on a joke, and a waste of time.
I now, for the first time in my life, find myself contemplating something I never thought I would. I’ve been thinking of dropping out of the political process. I intend to drop all party affiliation on my voter registration. I will not vote again until somebody comes along who is worthy my vote. I will continue to follow this nation’s politics with a jaundiced eye, but I will no longer participate.
Well, Scared, that’s my story. I’m sure by now in your arrogance, you’re even more convinced that I am a right wing whack job, so be it. I’m also quite certain that you will go over this post with a fine tooth comb, seeking to discredit me for poor grammar. In any event, you would do well to take the sentiments of those who disagree with you very seriously. This is not some fringe movement it is average Americans becoming increasingly weary of an ever more intrusive government.
To members of Oath Keepers I would like to say that I regret that I am unable financially to join your organization or donate to your cause. Know, though, that I also took my oath very seriously and when the time comes I am with you.
By the way, Scared, if you’re tooling on down the middle of the road chances are you’re going to get creamed by both sides. Just an observation. Being in the middle is not courageous, just the opposite, it’s quite cowardly. People like you sit in the middle waiting to see who comes out on top so you can say, “I was with you the whole time”. Through out history that has been the undoing of many.
Yeah I know it’s “kook” not “cook”, although I like to cook too.
Do you have any gifs. or banners I can put on my site?
Aaron:
I appreciate much of your thoughtful post. Other parts continue to be troublesome.
It’s true that Oath Keepers talks about what they will not do. The problem is, no one is asking them to do what they are pledging not to. No one is even threatening to ask them to do it. Thus my frequent mention of “phantoms” that people use to sow fear in an effort to gain support.
Here’s an analogy: what if I started a website asking military and law enforcement folks to pledge to resist orders to enter private homes and force people to display an American flag in every room. Or resist orders to force people to pray to Jesus three times a day. Yes, it is good to resist such orders…but it’s not realistic that these orders would ever be given. They are so outside the norm of American society that any effort to do so would be quickly squashed.
Same with the pledges proposed by Oath Keepers. Supporting foreign troops on American soil?!? Why is this a concern? Who is threatening to do this? I’m a dyed-in-the-wool liberal, but would take up arms against invading foreign troops without hesitation. So why do we need to pledge not to do this? It’s a red herring, intended solely to scare people.
Therefore I’m not solely opposing the comments on this site but the site itself. (Although I am in particular opposition to the comment that called liberals “domestic terrorists”. That idiot is glad he wrote such a lie on a website and didn’t say it personally to me.) Oath Keepers itself is part of the fear mongering that is going on right now from the conservative/right side of the political spectrum.
And I DO realize that people are frightened by the government, but my point is that this fear is unreasonable and is being created by warnings about things that have zero chance of actually happening. I DO understand the fringe, which is why I’m scared of it.
One final note on your post. You write “I am a 45 year old white conservative male and, therefore, Scared, by your definition I’m sure, a racist, right wing kook”. I have NEVER mentioned race or racism in any of my posts on this site. I have completely stuck to the issues that this site brings up and that people comment about. My belief that you are a “racist” is something you made up out of your own prejudices and fears. You even went so far as to take umbrage at my phantom accusation of racism! How crazy is that? To be offended by something I never did! Why did you make this accusation? Like nearly everything on this site, it, once again, has NO BASIS IN FACT.
Give ‘em hell!… I’m a three-time Honorably Discharged veteran, father was on Iwo Jima, Tarawa, Tinian and part of the occupying force in Japan after they capitulated via nuclear persuasion in August 1945… Soon to have a Master’s in Criminology w/Homeland Security focus…
My advice is to make contingency plans… Store canned goods and bleach (to purify water) and get your hands on as much ammo as you can afford… Ammos scarce in Georgia, so stock up before Osama/Obama/whatever starts tracking or worse, restricting and eliminating ammo sales entirely… If nothing else, you’ll be set in case of hurricane or natural disaster…
My advice to Scared: don’t be, just stay out the way till it’s over and maybe we’ll let you do our wash… Ha ha…
God Bless what’s left of our country!
Scared,
I would first like to say that I appreciate your civility and your willingness to have a meaningful discussion free of the vitriol common to such debates. That being said I’ll get right to my response.
As I said before, whether or not you share these fears is immaterial. The fear is out there and it is real. You say there is no rational basis for this fear? I refer you to the Military Commissions Act of 2006 (MCA) which suspended habeas corpus allowing the current and future presidents to declare anyone citizen or not an “enemy combatant” with no rights to seek legal or judicial relief from unlawful imprisonment. I would further refer you to the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act of 2007 (NDAA) which eliminates the protections of the Posse Comitatus Act and re-writes the Insurrection Act. This act would allow the president to declare a public emergency and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to quell public disorder. The Insurrection Act and the Posse Comitatus Act are two laws that are drilled into every person who serves in the military. Together they have historically helped enforce strict prohibitions on military involvement in domestic law enforcement. When Bush signed the NDAA into law he made the transition from democracy to military dictatorship as easy as declaring a state of emergency.
As far as foreign troops in the US is concerned, I would refer you to the proposed creation of what many are calling the North American Union but is known officially as the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) and the NAFTA Superhighway. This agreement between the US, Canada and Mexico would effectively eliminate the borders between the three nations creating sovereign Mexican territory here in the US to be managed and protected by Mexican government officials and their military. This territory would take the form of the Kansas City Smart Port (KCSP) where goods would be received and distributed through out North America with out a single US official being able to inspect cargo in or out of this port.
This along with the perceived government take over of banks, the auto industry and healthcare are just a few of the things that have people frightened. I say perceived for your benefit because I know you don’t believe this is happening but many people do. Whether or not these things are actually occurring (and I think they are) is not as important as the perception that they are. One of the things I learned in business is that there need not be any impropriety, only the perception of impropriety for you to have legal and public relations difficulties. As for these items I cite, they are not made up. The MCA and NDAA were signed into law in 2007 by George W. Bush. The SPP and KCSP both have official government websites. A portion of the NAFTA superhighway is currently under construction in Texas. That portion of is known as the Trans Texas Corridor. I suggest you do a little research into these things and then decide if our fears are unwarranted. The government has been over reaching for a number of years. As I said in my previous post, I was blind to a lot of this because of me dedication to party politics and my loyalty to the Republican Party. I can assure you now, though, that I am no longer loyal to anything except American sovereignty, the US Constitution and the freedom of the American people. God Bless America.
Scared,
There is one thing I forgot to mention. I know you didn’t call me a racist. My apologies, I did not mean to level that accusation at you in particular but was referring too the generally held liberal belief that all conservative white males must, by definition, be racist. As stated by another post to this site, I don’t hate anybody but tyrants and dictators.
I am none of the above, and therefore cannot take the oath. But i want to thank each and every one of you who have. You have my unconditional support, and i will pray for you daily. Praise God for America and praise God for people like you!!
As an impartial observer I would like to point out that although your aim is altruistic It can not change the outcome of that which you fear. Speaking purely of Katrina as seemed to be the focus of your video, the notion that defying the orders given would have brought about any other outcome is foolish at best. To successfully refuse the order would have needed a large segment of the services involved to refuse which could never be the case. Indifference, fear and a host of other emotions in the moment would have ensured that very few would have refused any of the orders given and would have been relieved or replaced if they had. The people there to help knew something had to be done quickly and followed the above orders obediantly because the alternative was worse in their mind. Public perception of inaction due to internal squabling was politically worse than taking wrong action, and the political power supercedes the constitution for all intents and purposes for example: income tax, patriot act and on and on and on.
The only way I see the MAJORITY saying no is if the Political power made a huge mistake which to do date has never happened.
“My cold, dead hands”!
My oath is to the the Constitution. as written, not to any “interpretation”, pretty simple document, written in plain english. It also incorprorates a means to amend it, not just twisting and distorting the meaning!
BTW, the Constitution does not grant the “Supreme Court” the authorization to “interpret” its’ meaning, just to decide cases arising “under” it.
Confusion to the enemy!
Semper Fi!
Deo Vindice!
Ready and Forward!
* DID YOU KNOW THIS? *
—–> If you want a real “eye-opener” access these link which is a collection of PAST US Prsidents and Vice Presidents reciting their OATH OF OFFICE. – - Pay strict attention to the part after “Defend the Constitution of the United States… that the words: “AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, BOTH FORIEGN AND DOMESTIC” are spoken by the VICE PRESIDENT ONLY… NOT THE PRESIDENT… go prove it to yourselves…
PAST PRESIDENTS OATH OF OFFICE VIDEOS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYnYdT1CqTc
VICE PRESIDENT OATH OF OFFICE VIDEOS:
- – JOE BIDDEN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIy6Mu78P14
- – RICHARD NIXON: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci28o7yGtpc
Can the words, of the “Constitutional Oath”, “PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES… be interpreted to preserve protect and defend the ACTUAL PAPER DOCUMENT and not it’s written meaning??
DOES THIS GIVE THE US PRESIDENT ‘WIGGLE ROOM” WHEN IT COMES TO BEING INFLUENCED BY THE ELITE, THE UNITIED NATIONS OR ANY OFFSHORE INTERESTS.
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1970 I was honored by becoming a US citizen. I took the pledge of allegiance to my country and I am a firm believer in the constitution. I born, and have lived in Iraq for 23 years, and can tell you first hand we are the greatest nation blessed with many freedoms that other countries lack.
As I made my pledge 29 years ago.I will defend this country, and support the constitution as long as I can breath.
God bless America.
I am not and have not been in uniform but as the mother, daughter, granddaughter, niece, cousin, daughter-in-law and aunt of servicemen, firefighters and police officers, I pledge allegiance to my country and to our precious constitution. My lack of uniform makes me no less willing to defend the country I was so blessed to be born into. I know I don’t speak alone and that we all pray for a peaceful end to recent events. While our President devotes time today to pushing the goal of olympics in Chicago, Iran launches rockets. While tax-paying, Medicare paying citizens suffer for lack of adequate health care, we hear of cuts in medicare to tend to those who paid nothing into it. We celebrate our freedom of religeon while preferential treatment is given to one faith over another. Our children are being endoctrinated in school to what almost borders in Obama worship. While our beloved constitution is being thrown under the bus, our leader apologizes to the world for our errors. If we can stop arguing about left and right, democrat or republican, and most importantly look not a the color of a man’s skin but the honor in his heart, we can be a force to be reconned with. To my brothers and sisters in uniform, I swear my support to defend our constitution with my life. I will have your back.
P.S. to last comment. May God grant us all the wisdom to know when the time has come to stop talking and start acting. God Bless America.
As an Air Force vet since 1981, I have watched the slow progression of government takeover, and the fast erosion of the American Citizens Rights using differnt acts and laws move forward year b year. Its time to put a foot down and stand on the line. the line is drawn in the sand. Not one more inch shall we give to those who do not love this Country and its Foundations any longer. Time to put up or shut up.
Mog1255-04Aug09 @ 0925 said:
Education first is our most powerful tool in combating the tyranny that faces us today.
It is my humble opinion that education is the key to everything. The education system in our country is in the toilet. These young students today aren’t educated, they’re indoctrinated, as witnessed in this video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrsl8o4ZPo
This smacks of the way Hitler indoctrinated the youth that would become the military that invaded Poland in 1939. Education is a generational thing.
The young children in the video will become the movers and shakers of tomorrow. Virtually all of the so-called teachers of today went to colleges and universities that espoused the liberal doctrine that they pass on to our children today.
After the retaking of our country, the education system should be the first thing overhauled.
Semper Fi
Well, that’s great, I’m glad you aren’t going to put in a concentration camp considering my money pays your salary. And I should point out that it is money unconstitutionally confiscated from me by your employer the federal government. And that it is used for you to go to unconstitutionally declared military actions abroad. How about you quit your job and not work for the fed in the first place and give the money that’s been stolen from true Americans back to them. I guess your belief in the constitution and your belief in being American only goes so far. Oh yeah and where the hell were you the last 8 years? And I’m not a whiny liberal so don’t even think of accusing me of being one.
Too bad they never mention the real problem. In fact, it’s obvious this organization is more about pledging to INACTION than anything else. How bout our troops pledge to REMOVE the tyrants from office? How bout a pledge to stop fighting wars of aggression and stop invading SOVEREIGN nations? Why no pledge to DO SOMETHING about the problems we face?
The answer is simple. This group is headed up by the SAME PEOPLE who are running this country into the ground!!!!!!! This is what you call controlled opposition, and it’s utterly disgusting. These are NOT Real Oath Keepers.
I love what you Oath Keepers are doing. It’s quite unfortunate that you appear to have no brethren in Pittsburgh. What happened there this past week reminds one of Gestapo tactics, and should be a wake up call to all Americans. See it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0fPdgw1wN0
Wherever the next big confrontation is likely to take place, will you be there to confront those who would trample our 1st amendment rights?
I wish I could believe what you guys are saying, but last winter I was disarmed for “posession of a firearm and ammunition without a requisite Firearm Owners Identification Card.” Then this past week I saw how police AND military in Pittsburgh behaved toward protestors. I was outraged, and I’m not sure there is any such thing as an oathkeeper.
I’ve fretted about this for a long time. I’m an Army veteran and at no time was I ever asked or told that the oath I took THEN was ever in anyway extinguished or terminated. I’m soooo gratified to see that this too has been on the minds of right thinking Americans seeing our Constitution ignored and violated daily. In November 2008, I attened a town hall meeting in Columbus, IN with Mike Pence speaking there. I got a hold of the microphone and asked him if “….any of them even questioned if the TARP Act was even Constitutional?” People, it is written to say …”decisions by the Treasurer can not be reviewed by any court or administrative agency …” I told Congressman Mike Pence that violoates my right to “speak” to my government – and as far as I am concerned – THAT is an act of war. They are stealing from you, giving it to wealthy powerful people and nations without any responsibility or accountability to the American people – and then we’re told WE ARE UNAMERICAN for asking questions and not liking or wanting to accept that!!! We can get started today as far as I’m concerned – but to be sure, what we have in Washington today MUST change! Get involved! Help send a message to Washington that we are aware of what the Constitution says and we won’t allow them to ignore us or the constitution any longer!!
Regarding my September 29th comment above: I was hoping that an OathKeeper would respond, concerning my suggestion that OathKeepers appear at the next likely confrontation point, ready to back up and protect those who exercise their 1st Ammendment right to assemble. This was needed in Pittsburgh, but didn’t happen. My suggestion is that a group of OathKeepers show up at the next likely confrontation point, in full uniform, and exercising their Open Carry rights. I’m not suggesting that live ammo be loaded, but the OathKeepers should bear arms and be prepared to meet whatever tactics the police use (rubber bullets, sound cannons, stink bombs, pepper spray, etc.)with like tactics. The event should be videotaped by a professional, and a spokesperson for the OathKeepers who are present should explain exactly why they are there and what they are willing to do to protect citizen rights. I believe such a standoff would garner national attention to the issue, and that as a result many thousands more police and servicemen would step forward and take the oath. A line needs to be drawn in the sand NOW, not when things have collapsed to total chaos. It’s hard to believe that there apparently are no OathKeepers in Pennsylvania, the cradle of democracy and home of the Liberty Bell. OathKeepers – please respond to this comment, explaining why nothing was done in Pittsburgh, and telling us what you are willing to do at the next point of opportunity. Thank you.
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My Writings of the Breach of Oath from past , I see have struck a TONE. The sound is good. Your objectives are sound. No Compromise. No Surrender. LIBERTY IS FREEDOM & D.C. Liberty is at Veterans Tioday. Do not compromise your OATH to conform to a SOCALISTS COMMUNISTS AGENDA permoted by OTHERS, NO MATTER IF THEY ARE EMPLOYED BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR STATE GOVERNMENT. FREEDOM MEANS VERY VERY LIMITED GOVERNMENT.
I am happy that this group exists. I am not a member of the military or law enforcement, but I SUPPORT THIS EFFORT! Thank God for those who aren’t afraid to stand for freedom!
I see that my questions and suggestions in post 0 of October 1 are still unanswered by any OathKeepers. I know you are probably busy, but this is important. Once more I ask, will you stand up to the kind of police and military abuse seen in Pittsburgh last week against citizens attempting to assert their 1st Amendment right of assembly? Please answer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZ-ZG7ZXZw
As can be seen in this video, a citizen with a megaphone, attempting to educate Pittsburgh police as to the right of citizens to peacefully assemble, is no match against a nazi stormtrooper police force using a sound cannon, clubs, rubber bullets, and tear gas. OathKeepers – will you stand firmly against future acts of aggression which violate Constitutional rights?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qli7DJ3AcKU
Ya’ll can count me in. I am very proud to be an American and proud of our country. Lately I have been beside myself watching our Gov’t trade us in. I will not stand by if we need to stand fast and protect our ground. We DO have Constitutional rights and we need to protect each one.
“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.” – John Stuart Mill
Be Well My Brothers and Sisters, the Irregular Militia is by your side . . .
“Per suum res vadum nos teneo lemma. – By their deeds shall we know them.”
Sandman
as an Army and Vietnam veteran, and 22 year veteran in law enforcement the oaths I took were to defend the constitution of the United States, not the self serving politicians who have and are destroying the precious document to placate special interest groups in this country, and for their own enrichment, and ego’s.
I never took an oath to support any of these socialist, wanna be dictators, who call themselves patriots while creating a country that infringes on the the rights of law abiding citizens, but gives apologies to every despots in the world, and tries to pacate dictaors bent on our destruction.
I swear I will remain loyal to the USA, till the elections of 2010. If nothing changes then my other country Texas needs to secede from the madness in Washington whose politicians took the same oath as we did, but then ignore or want to change the Constitution to silence opposition, disarm it’s citizens and want to create a Utopia for every illegal alien that can swim or run our borders. Yes give me liberty or death was not an idle remark so long ago. our liberty is slowly eroding into a Marxist system, and I will not live in that system.
Midterm elections a year away may decide how near are more serious actions. As this administration moves continualy and deliberately to stifle dissent, this site and others may fail. How will communication be maintained? Only one of a host of questions.
That said, this is strong work. Though with unremarkable service, I am no less proud to be an American, a veteran, and a believer of what our founding documents and Oath Keepers stand for. God bless!
William Van Henley, SSG, US Army, 12+ years, now a civilian. I cannot afford to become a member, however, I have guns, ammo and know-how. I also have a clearance that our agitator-in-chief could not get as a junior senator and does not deserve as a community organizer in chief. Loved your site and the comments that were left.
I am sending my senators your “Orders that I will Not Obey” and I hope that they get the picture. One of them stole his seat with the help of Democrats who filed and pushed bogus criminal charges against Sen. Ted Stevens, and many of us Alaskans are pissed about that. And the way our government is ignoring our wishes. Thank-you to all who have served and will serve in the near future to insure our freedoms remain ours. God bless all.
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I wonder how many of your member police officers, in spite of the “will not obey” oath, will continue to enforce those laws that violate our 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms? I am talking about laws such as New York’s “Sullivan Law.” I would think that since such laws already exist, we need not wait for additional legislation to start putting up or shutting up. Don’t you think?
C.L.(Chuck)Troupe
Bellflower, CA
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they dont teach SHIT in school
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Folks, “Scared” is a lurker. And like his screen name, he is just that: scared that the effort to Socialize the United States or simply ‘kill the American giant’ with no thought to what comes afterward (depending on which anti-American group is being considered) has been discovered while there is still time to reverse it and be stronger than ever. OathKeepers is no threat except to someone who threatens the Constitutional Republic we defend.
He has some education (and spell-check) but no wisdom, other than knowing that to distract and mislead keeps people from more important duties. He’s a shill and will never be convinced any more than Satan would; he ALREADY KNOWS the truth but is just trying to change it.
Ignore idiots and fools; you cannot beat them in debate.
I doubt there will be a need for OathKeepers to choose between their primary duty to the Constitution (or I would already be a three percenter) and the subordinate duties, UNLESS THERE IS. Would-be despots don’t signal their intentions. Fortunately, the People are onto the socializing of the Republic before the Socialists planned and, in my humble opinion, will likely stop and reverse it civilly. If not, any “bad guys” know there is an OathKeepers pulse among the American warriors of whatever uniform.
Curtis Hartwell
The State of Tennessee will not accept tyranny.Millions of redneck hunters will say no to global government.We are Tennesseans,we are Americans,we are NOT Earth citizens. Jim
Why won’t the military restore constitutional governance in America? Why do they fight foreign wars as proxies to “allies and friends” fighting their own battles? Most of the high ranking general staff of the US military are CFR members. The CFR has been purging the general ranks for quite awhile now.Privates can’t save the country alone,they need loyal generals.Stalin purged his’ general staff through murder.The American general staff was purged by political correctness and buttkissing.former US soldier.
The military is more reliable than the police.Pittsburg is a good example.Of course the real test will come during a general disarmament program.With UN troop reinforcements,paramilitary SWAT type goons and unquestioning soldiers,how many will cease assaulting their own people when the millions of scoped high powered hunting rifles and high cap concealed pistols are put into use?First thing i’d do would be to get ahold of a offeding uniform ( maybe a FEMA one )and infilrate and start a confusion in the ranks deal.There are way too many armed citizens in America to be conquered without Chinese and Russian troops,Even then all those 30/06,7mm mag,300mag hunting rifles and ar15 and ak rifles will render most body armor useless.Of course fire will screwup the koolest armored fighting vehicles.The pretty white UN vehicles will be burnt charred black.This clash would be like no other in history.Do you know why? It would not be for politics,or land,or resources,or wealth or for any reason war has been fought in history.In this war even a coward will fight back.Why? This is a conflict against the very existance of human life on the planet.The eventual goal is to cull the human population by four fifths or more!!!!! You might as well fight if your death will be guarenteed anyway.Now if even 20 million Americans fire on those sent to disarm and enslave them,they could thin the forces of the mass murderers.Of course the evil oligarchy will not care.Their goal is to terminate human beings.As long as someone is killing someone,they are winning.Resolve yourselves to not surrender to this evil.If you do,death is certain.You might as well take a few disloyal F**KS with you.signed a very heavily armed well trained American veteran
Semper Fidelis – A motto I took seriously in all aspects of my life, to include the oath I swore upon enlistment into the United States Marine Corps.
I have been trying to enforce the oath bond and commission, on are alledged officers of the law and judges. and they just laugh. We need to some how get a true Article three court started with true enforceable power to stop these internal terrorist known as government.They totally ignore the constitution and are sovereign rights, under color of office and color of law. We need what I would like to call the BLUE INK PEN MILITIA. AND LAWFULLY GET ARE COUNTRY BACK.
I am a veteran and my father served 28yrs in the army. I am sad that any one would think it exceptable to have military and private police attack citizens who are unarmed and no threat except to those who want to rob this country of its freedom and wealth. any man with out a cause for freedom in this country should step aside or lay down either way we have no use for you. I posted my real name and if any one has a problem with what i said you are more than welcome to come and test whaty i stand for. god bless america and thank you for having the guts to make a stand. I will be there with you.
On my 18th birthday I took the oath of enlistment entering the Air Force. It was a great source of pride to me. Not just anyone can take it. I almost washed out of basic training. Duty, honor and strength from God saw me through. Once the oath is taken it is permanent. Yes, I’m still bound by the oath. I hope I never forsake or violate it.
What per cent of people sworn to uphold the constitution are Oath Keepers?
Oath Keepers,
I have scanned through the vast majority of the posts on this page. There are two major themes I keep seeing repeated. The “people” asking ‘when’ are you going to do ’something’… Anything! And “you” saying that you ‘are’ actually already doing ’something’ because you are refusing to do something else. Hmm???
Assuming for a moment that that is going to be the major extent of your ‘participation’ in any possible future events… Then I guess it will just take the rest of “them” just a little bit longer to accomplish their mission… Seeing as they will not have the ‘help’ of “you” who are refusing to help “them” do it.
No sir… That is NOT what “my” oath meant to me. And I hope… I pray… That that is NOT what you actually ‘mean’ that you ‘intend’ to do… Or should I say not do… to honor your own oaths.
I do wish, however, to make it PERFECTLY clear to any critics that it is NOT my ‘intention’ to in any way promote the violent overthrow of our government. Never has been… Never will be! It is, instead, my desire to help facilitate the speedy restoration of a more constitutionally based government…. By whatever ‘minimal amount of force’ that may be required to accomplish that goal… Be it just politically… Or, be it otherwise… (And… Just between you and me…. SHH!! It really doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that it probably ain’t going to happen ‘politically’!)
Point being… I came to this site all kinds of excited… Because I thought I had finally found a band of brothers in arms ready and willing to support their oath with more than just the free will exercise of their ‘patriotic inaction’… But! I’m sorry to say…. That’s not what I ’see’ happening here.
Hence… You’ve lost my ’support’ until I see that you have figured out a really ‘nice’ way to say that if there ever comes a time when it becomes ‘necessary’ to stop casting your votes in a ballot box, (It can’t hurt to try that bit of foolishness one more time eh?) and to start casting your ‘votes’ from the hilltops and rooftops… Then that is what you are prepared and willing to do.
Seems to me that your claim to be sitting on the sidelines ‘doing nothing illegal’ is really not much different than your just sitting on the sidelines doing nothing at all… Comments???
Any Mouse
You will never feel quite as ‘alive’…
As you do at that exact moment when you suddenly realize that someone is trying to take your life away from you!
This ain’t living people… This is just… ‘existing’!
P.S. To the rest of you people… And in all fairness to the Oath Keepers… It is not yet TIME for ‘action’ anyway. Be patient. Things are going to have to get a whole LOT worse, before they actually start getting a WHOLE LOT WORSE… So! For now… Be grateful that we still have time to prepare… Quietly… For the big ‘She – It Storm’ that may soon be coming our way.
Think about it……….many question HOW if things really turn bad……….try this
“I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me”………..Philippians 4:13
God bless all who truly love and will defend our country.
This is true power.
We Marines have a motto: Semper Fidelis. It means always faithful. Always means always. If we are “once a Marine always a Marine,” then we must be ever vigilant. I know if you are reading this here you are, but many of our brothers and sisters are not awake to what perils our Constitution faces. I call on all my brother and sister Marines who read this to remind other Marines they know that to be worthy of the title they must remain ever faithful to that oath we all swore.
God bless and watch over us, Jon
STOP for just a minute! Go back and listen to the “Oath Keeper’s” video again. I may be mistaken but I think their goal is to “awaken” those that have taken an oath to defend the Constitution to a greater awareness of what that oath “actually” means. Each one of our military or local protectors should study the “Constitution” and let it be their “decision making” guide when and if they are faced with “incidents” mentioned in the video. Again, I may be speaking out of turn but I think the “Oath Keepers” hope and pray that their organization will be instrumental in encouraging our “protectors” to KNOW what “side of the line” they should be standing on when something catastrophic happens to threaten our Constitutional rights. I think we need to be careful and not let those like “Scared” be allowed to twist the efforts of this organization into something that most of us know “not to be true”. The “Oath Keeper’s” have given me, personally, a “glimmer of hope” in preserving the strong foundation of this wonderful country.
Like others i am up there in age, 64 to be exact. I am still active. I don’t abdicate overthrowing the United States Government as it stands. If it comes to point where the government moves on the people of this country by threats or actions of imprisonment or death I will be ready to fight.
It is not our place to take the first step. As someone else wrote there are three boxes, ballot, jury and ammo. The ammo was listed correctly. It can only be used in a last resort. For those that are itching to fight now then if you are still in the age range for joining the military then join and go fight the Islamic exremists in Iraq or Afghanistan.
In closing, as I said before, I will fight, I can walk but I can’t run so I’ll just sit and let them come on whether it be Our own countrymen, the UN or Islamic Jihadists. God bless America and all it’s people…
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Thanks Oath Keepers. You are a ray of hope in an uncertain time.
There are some well informed and articulated posts here, some of which I know of, some of which I’m scared of, some of which I know in my gut to be part of the New World Order. There are powers in this world which can point new directions without popular support. Mostly using money and necessities as thier sword. Necessities being the most widely used and despicable, I try to focus there.
The necessities comes into play here at home as well. Oath Keepers is part of a final line of defence for those willing to take that route toward total tyranny. As necessities become more and more difficult to obtain, resistance becomes slighter and less effective. This is happening today in our country. Jobless rates always are one of the first necessities to become a victim. (ammo plays there to) Look for fuel and food shortages next. Cap & Trade comes to mind.
The other 800 lb. gorilla is disenfranchising of large groups of the subjects, and playing one group against the other. It’s a mock battle. Resist.
OK. enough about me. Thanks for the great site O.K’s I’ll be right here with ya.
30 years military..little rusty, but these are the soldiers that will win the fight…wait til they get a load of me……tee hee….hoo ya…carry on…
Why are you guys not helping this group. http://americangrandjury.org/march-on-dc-draws-2-million If your true mission is to save america?
I am retired Air Force. I come from a family with a long military history dating back to the French and Indian War. I am proud to see that the oath I took, as well as all who came before me, still means something. That there are those who are still willing to ‘protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic’, and mean it. Keep up the good work, guys. PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!
…Against All Enemies Foreign and Domestic.
Desert Storm
Thank God for faithful Americans I was about to lose hope when i came across your site MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA AND WE STAND UP FOR WHAT OUR FORFATHERS LAID DOWN THERE LIVES FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I shall stand, and fall if needed.
My Father, and Grandfather’s efforts and those before them WILL NOT BE IN VEIN.
Do not expect me to cower in the face of death. Yes, they will get me, so be it.
I DO NOT WANT VIOLENCE… However my line is drawn.
Any mass confiscations, or forced vaccinations brought to my property will be met with swift deadly opposition.
Bring a sack lunch, you will be there for a while.
I stand behind Oath Keepers.
GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!!
Where were you guys when Bush and Cheney were in power? Remember what happened with Katrina? They were confiscating weapons left and right and blockading bridges preventing evacuees egress from their flooded city. Doesn’t this just make you a little upset? I know I was pissed off about it.
Katrina was another example of the Federal government’s incompetence and yet another reason why the founding fathers didn’t want a big central government. Now they want to handle our health care. That will be another big government disaster! The idea of this web site is good, but the President, members of Congress and the Senate need to sign on since they rarely respect their oath. Repeal the 17th amendment and respect the 10th. Now, Who is John Galt?
I sincerely apologize for the lengthy post
It is really good to know that there are still people that are ready to uphold the freedom in this country.
But knowing who is your real enemy is very important. As those won’t fight with you. They will manipulate American people to fight with each other or other countries as they are very good at it.
To avoid this, one must know his enemy and how they do it. The sad fact, they have been doing for a while and most of the people haven’t noticed it.
There is a man, Andrew M. Lobaczewski, who with other scientists studied that kind of human phenomena during Communist regime in Poland and wrote a book. Here’s a not so short description, but it is worth it: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/political_ponerology_lobaczewski.htm
And if you like youtube, the guy nicely summarizes the book with quotes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kiSnduPd6s
Once you realize what these men are, you no longer wonder why America with the greatest constitution of all time that was supposed to prevent it from happening of such time like Now, nevertheless, experiences it right now.
It is established fact that approximately 4-6% of the human population have this genetic defect, and is called ‘Psychopaths.’
Guess where most ’successfull’ of them end up? Mad house? Wrong!!! In the circles of power, politics, banking and etc. due to their “gift” and they do have a good knowledge of regular people and their traits.
And as long as people stay ignorent of this, they won’t be able to break this cycle of wars for freedom or “democracy”
The side affect, normal people who live under the rule of psychopathic regime tend to start pathological thinking by themselves. You might even notice some of the traits in your selves once you know what they are.
Just to give a short description of what these people like:
“Imagine – if you can – not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken.
And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools.
Now add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless.
You are not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience, that they seldom even guess at your condition.
In other words, you are completely free of internal restraints, and your unhampered liberty to do just as you please, with no pangs of conscience, is conveniently invisible to the world.
You can do anything at all, and still your strange advantage over the majority of people, who are kept in line by their consciences will most likely remain undiscovered.
How will you live your life?”
And just to prove some points, here’s the scanning of such people’s brain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaTfdKYbudk
Note: the back area of the head is where the visual processing happens.
Dear Oathkeepers, your movement brings me hope for a real future of the republic. Brave Men and Women who step into the crosshairs of big brother, in the face of Tyranny, and say “No” I will not comply.
Many Americans are not going to comply with forced H1N1 vaccinations, there is reason to believe, if its mandatory, and an individual refuses, he could be sent to a Fema Quarantine Concentration Camp. This could also be a very useful tool for the Elite to do mass round ups of people they think may be trouble once martial law is declared. They can just say this or that person has a fever, or wont take a shot, and be detained without due process.
As an American Human, I beg you to add and 11th order you will not obey: That Oathkeepers will not allow Americans to be forcefully vaccinated or Detained.
Some Americans, see no difference, of someone coming at them of thier children with a needle vs coming at them with a gun or a knife, they will defend themselves and thier families. Please defend the people from this sinister plot. Please make it clear that no American shall be arrested from SELF DEFENSE. Forced vaccinations and quarantines threaten ones Life, Liberty, and persuit of happiness. Please Help Americans, Should Forced Vaccinations or Forced Quarantine camps become a reality. God Bless, and God Speed!
You are all living a dream…there is no one left to execute the oath…whoever/whatever is coming, will come…and…there is nothing anyone can do about it except knuckle under…or die. Fools!
I am interested in getting involved.
Why hide our names, or use fake names?!?! Come and get me! We need to be front and center to encourage others to step up!
I am very frightened with what is happening in our country now. Not for myself, as I am 67 and lived my life but for my grandchildren.
I have not been in the military but do have two children that are. Unfortunately one believes the oath she took was to defend her President. You had better believe that when it is safe I will set her straight. As it is, in things I’ve participated in or said, she is fearful I will ruin her career.
I hope it never happens but just incase, no matter what my age, if I am able to defend & protect our Constitution in any way, I will.
I have a deep love and respect for our military. Having been directed to this web site has given me hope. Thank you!!
I do not have the honor of serving my country. After a couple years of hard work to make weight I was medicaled for degenerative bone disease in my ankels. I wanted to serve as my dad had served. 8 yrs US Army, 6 of thatwas in NAM. I am 37 now and with everythign that is going on I fear for what my children will inherit. I am very interested in taking part. and like the post before mine, I too have a deep love and respect for our military. Having been directed to this web site has given me hope. Thank you!!
I recently got out of the army and ran into one of your members. He bought a few things I had left from the army that I did not need anymore and told me how he was preparing. Being in the army I can tell you that if this thing were to go down any time soon there are a lot of soldiers that would not participate in such unpatriotic activities. I think everyone in America (and our men and women still overseas) is fed up with the way things are going right now. I remember a time not too long ago when I would wake up in the morning and say “damn I am glad to be an american” dont get me wrong I am still glad to be an american but this country is going to hell in a handbasket and I hope for my childrens sake that we can get it back on the right path without having to fight another civil war. I have a lot of family still in the military and if we had to fight then I would have to fight them and that is not something I ever want to have to do but if they stand in the way of “freedom” then it is something that I would do. I believe that all americans are working towards the same goal, some are just going about it the wrong way and I am not here to judge who is doing it right or wrong I just hope the ones doing it right are stronger than the ones doing it wrong. I hope all of you understand the tragedies and sacrifices that have to be made to win a war and are willing to do make them for the cause. Thank you and GOD BLESS
Has anyone heard anything about a bill in congress, that would require American taxpayers, to declare how many firearms they own, on their tax return for 2010 and a tax of 50 dollars per firearm under penalties of law? These disloyal NWO peons are just looking for a fight.They just keep pushing the envelope.Only the most craven coward will give into this purposeful bullying to incite a response.
PS anyone who obeys orders to disarm the American people deserves a traitors death.I do not care WHO you are.
Not all soldiers will follow all orders,you can count on that.The Green Beret does not go well with a nazi swastika.Hidden till required.
“to put it even more succinctly, in the words of 101st Airborne Commander General Anthony McAuliffe at the Battle of the Bulge, ‘NUTS!’”
Some sources say that Gen. McAuliffe’s answer actually consisted of two words, the second of which being “you”. We’ll leave the rest to your imagination.
Great website…these Oaths are a terrific start to regain our country. Here are some more suggestions from a 20+ year veteran who has served in Iraq, Turkey, Afghanistan, Saudi, Europe, Korea, and South/Central America:
1. WE CANNOT REMAIN PASSIVE; Islam (and other misguided ventures) thrives on societies that are as passive and “politically correct” as we are right now. THEY WILL control our futures, without even a shot fired within the U.S.. Speak out, Vote, and make your representatives represent you!
2. AS LONG AS YOU UNDERSTAND & FOLLOW THE BILL OF RIGHTS, YOU CANNOT GO WRONG; That document used to make us free men. As long as you let your representatives (crooked judges) modify, distort, and misinterpret that “once pure” document, your rights will diminish. SPEAK FREE, BEAR ARMS, and STAND for your rights!
3. REINVEST AND TAKE PRIDE IN AMERICA; Buy American, Travel cross-country, Find a place where you belong, FEEL American, Be American, and BE PROUD AGAIN. The world is watching, and in some cases, waiting for us to fall on our proud faces. Dont give them the satisfaction of cheering in the streets….again. The “idea” of America is still new, relatively speaking only 233 yrs old, but this idea cannot be killed…but it can mutate and kill itself. Remember history?
4. BE A CITIZEN; Im not talking about working for CAIR, ACORN, or MoveOn.Org. Im talking about REAL community work that doesn’t instill propaganda or “anti-anything”. Build/Clean/Patrol parks, be a REAL civil servant, join the military, be a peacekeeper, policeman, fireman…BETTER YOUR COMMUNITIES. Do not settle for lawless neighborhoods because YOU then become part of the problem.
5. DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT WHAT FRANCE THINKS ABOUT YOU; Or any other passive, P.C., non-sovereign, communist, or Muslim country. More times than not, these same countries have millions of happy ex-patriots that have vastly improved their lives here in the U.S., they are jealous of our lifestyles and forms of justice…that is the bottom line. Its akin to “Trickle Up Poverty” (a.k.a. Democratic Party)…everyone wants a piece of the good life, your American life.
With these five goals, if one person can be inspired even further here in the OathKeepers, we will be closer to a manageable democracy.
God Blessed America, but We the People must do the rest!
I’m not american but I thought it woul be helpful to know that on the other side of atlantic there are many of us who are on your side untill the very end. The idea of an attempt to constrict the peole and opress them is disgusting.How did we get. And believe me: the beginning of a new age is nigh.
Alright…
I’m going to break radio silence for the first time in years…
I’ve been “lurking” on the web since Obama backtracked on FISA.
Ex Gunner’s Mate Tech,USN, PRP (Personal Reliability Program), Nuke Weapons Handling Team, and all of the appropriate background investigations and clearances for a True Patriot.
It took me about two years after 911 to figure out just what happened that infamous day.
The enemy is no longer “at the gate”; they have infiltrated our Republic.
To this day I take my oath to defend The Constitution of the United States of America very seriously…
even though I took that oath over thirty years ago.
I would like to hereby declare that all of the weapons that are now in my possession are strictly for Self Defense, and the legal taking of game for food.
However, I will, with honor turn them upon any enemy of the Constitution foreign of domestic; and I will gladly sacrifice my life to defend the rights of our (once) sovereign US Citizens.
Everyone has a life story…
and I have very rarely found a person (around the entire Globe) that does not have intriguing tale to tell.
I personally have a fascinating life’s tale to share with you; a little at a time.
I feel that I can trust my brothers and sisters here at this site.
And, I hope to learn more about yourselves and path(s) that your lives have taken you down.
Personal Sovereignty, making up County Sovereignty,creating State Sovereignty, RATIFIED by the States to create a Union…
I want my INDIVIDUAL SOVREINGTY back.
Blaine Erickson
THE Wilderness Wino
I stand ready should this time come. I have served, and I have several family members currently serving. They will follow me over their commanders, should the need arise.
I just wanted to say that I met some great people from this organization today at the media protest march in Atlanta. I was unaware of this organization until today and its mission does provide a little comfort in these uneasy times.
As a retired veteran with almost 25 years of service in the Military Police Corps, I never thought I would see the day where Soldiers that I once trained might be ordered to detain, intern or even kill other Americas. Well my friends, I have come to realize that we are on the eve of a critical time in history. As a Soldier I proudly and honorably swore to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I still hold these values and my firm belief in the principles which made this country so great.
I don’t know what decision I would make if I were to be recalled to active duty, but I do know what decision I will make if someone tries to remove me from my house. I will be joining this organization soon and will get out on the streets in my area to recruit as many of our sworn defenders as I possible can.
The crisis is real. The solution is not as simple. This is a great step in the right direction and just one of many paths I will follow to preserve liberty for my fellows citizen’s and for the generations of Americans to come.
Hey guys.Lighten up.Chill.I’m not near as bad as you guys think i am.Most of the stuff you are complaining about was put into effect by other presidents.None of the presidents really followed the constitution.The congress,senate and the courts don’t.If you want to place blame for America’s problems the main heavies are bankers and lawyers.I couldn’t fix it if i tried.People want socialism.So many people have their hands in the till.what can i do? Just take it easy on demonizing me.I won’t purposefully harm America.It’s not like i’m really in charge anyway.That “shadow” goverment is.I wish you all well.Barack
Perhaps many of you will be interested in another organization called the “Domestic Emergency Network”. Their site is http://www.joinden.com.
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All police and military should read this webpage, whether they join you or not. If this had been around we may have avoided things like the Mei Lai massacre and taking of guns from the residents of New Orleans, among others. The guys in the trenches need to know what an unlawful order is and that he can defend himself from carrying out that order. Semper Fi
I very much appreciate your efforts and support your patriotism. There is one thing that will slow your momentum and that is the lack of education in regards to the term “liberal”. This word carries the same wait as “nigger” lately. The truth is there is no LIBERTY without liberals or at least liberal minded people. For example I am a liberal minded person who SUPPORTS the liberties you wish to protect. I am so tired of the right thinking that they are only ones that wish to protect the Constitution and our unalienable rights. I very much wish to join an organisation such as your, but don’t belive that it will fare Oath Keepers wise to display that level of igornorance. Everything is not black and white. I am a gun toating hippie with an affinity for guns, art, music, freedom,god, liberty for all and social responsibility. Keep your mind open to the fact that the people you term as “liberals” could also be a brother in arms and could uphold your oath as well as the next man.
No intention of offending anyone, that’s not what I’m going for. What I am trying to say is, you can’t always judge a book by it’s cover, sometimes you have to sit down and read it. If the intelligence part of your organisation can somehow build a bridge between people such as myself and an organisation such as this, you will have all the forces this country needs to defend herself against the tyranny of a dictatorship. If not we will fumble as Americans at the most critical moment of the game. That’s what the power hungry seek-diffusion and confusion. I am not confused about the oath you wish to keep, it very honorable what I am confused about is the fact that there are people in your organisation that would diffuse me because I am a liberal. God speed to your efforts. There is a reason why Jesus has so many followers, he includes everyone in the pursuit of love and honor. If you find a way to willfully craft such an approach to inclusion, you will have a million man and women army over night. What ever it takes, Good Luck
Remember the words of Benjamin Franklin, “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Oh, and to Mr.Scared, bring up past abuses of liberty and the Constitution, true or not, in no way mitigates the DUTY of those of us who have sworn to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign AND domestic. What determines when we should act and when we should not? OUR CONSCIENCE. It’s too bad if you feel threatened by those who are willing to ACT according to the dictates of their conscience. If your conscience tells you to cower in a corner, then by all means go to it. But please don’t get in our way. Thanks.
Is it not the duty and right of the armed forces and police to uphold the constitution? If so, why not take an oath to RESIST and effort to impose the infringements on liberty listed above? I’d rather my military enact a coup than lay down their arms. Likewise, I’d rather my peace officers protect me from those seeking to take my liberty than to merely refuse to assist them.
WHY has it come down to this? A faux messiah in charge. And now in my 40’s, I am buying guns and ammo. It’s on.
Hi, I think your a little late. Remember the Monica war, a war to keep a presidential mistress off the front pages, and how generals lied to congress saying it had to be done then and there, impeachment not withstanding. Los Angeles already has warrentless searches for “building code violations, where narcotics officers just happen to go along. Give it up and move to Mexico. At least their president didn’t bribe the Nobel committee. At least Mexico has honest government, well at least compared to here.
Oath Keepers, I commend you.
I salute you!
As much as protests, it was the soldiers refusing commands, ‘fragging’ officers and just sitting around smoking dope rather than fight a pointless war that defused Vietnam. A police officer, especially if he has a few friends with him could be a deadly danger to these NWO servants of the Devil. They could “Remove” them from office and make it clear that anyone else trying would similarly be removed. Any other agency leaping in would find not only no trace but that the paperwork showing they were there never even existed. These “NeoCONS” aren’t anything but liars, crooks and cowards and the ones who think they are “Christian” would offer to submit to Caligula’s fist hearing the first lion’s roar.
Who is controlling the Beast? It seems to be showing and growing in all the freedom loving countries on earth. The nature of the Beast is to take as much power as the people will allow, and to abuse all of the power it has.
I don’t look into the future and envision the US under occupation. I believe the US is under occupation right now by an evil brutal military police power spawned by the Federal government – not under Obama – it has been coming long before Obama. He and we are no longer free. We cannot maintain our freedom when we have none. Nor can Obama do anything. All of us are already in the jaw of the Beast. We must take our freedom. It will not be given to us and it won’t come easy.
We will not be fighting for something we have, we will be fighting for something we have lost.
How about proof reading your posts you “oath keepers” you. Poor grammar and incorrect spelling will only retard your so called “movement”.
Nice comment Anonymous 244. Whether someone pisses on the constitution figuratively or literally, they have the right to do so. Freedom of speech my good man.
Also, removing someone from the planet because he or she disagrees with some areas of the constitution is a bit much, no?
I am proud to live in this wonderful nation and call myself an American. However, the world, not just the U.S., the world is changing. America’s former international “brute force” agenda is beginning to diminish, and rightfully so.
Our federal government is beginning to realize that we are of a national community. Yes, we should be an example for other countries. However, our agorance needs to be put in check. If our federal government continues to promote peace throughout the world, other countries may very well follow suit, which may prevent many future military conflicts throughout the world.
War is hell, and I respect all of the service men and woman that are risking their lives everyday to keep this country safe. But war is also a dangerously addictive drug. It’s about time for an intervention.
What a great organization!
Like many here, I ‘took the step’ and didn’t pay a lot of attention to the Oath. That was a long time ago, in January of 1960.
I’m older than dirt now, and probably could only hide in the corner when the heavy shit comes down, and it *will* happen sooner rather than later. We’re getting close, in my opinion. But, this site and organization has given me an optimism about our country’s future that I haven’t felt in a while.
Thanks from me, and just know that Americans (that are paying attention) are proud of what you’re doing.
EdB – Active duty 60-65
I stand by your principals. I, too, took that oath as a veteran and have never forgotten it.
Hell to be paid to anyone that tries to invade my home and confiscate my weapons!
I’m currently reading about George Washington and the Revolutionary War…brings a tear to my eye to think that such patriots existed to give us our freedom, let no man take it away!
I am a veteran, retired USN. I strongly believe in the oath I swore to uphold and defend the constitution. To me that was an oath I swore for life not a 2 or 4 year term. I’m doing my research on this Oath Keepers org. and with me the jury is still out so to speak as I am finding both neg. and pos. inputs on them. I will not blindly follow any person or group etc. In reading the comments posted on this site there seems to be much call for revolt. to my fellow citizens I would caution you on such harsh words. we still have the right to assemble, petition, and most importantly Vote! It is time to remind the political powers in this country who THEY work for…. We the People. let them know they were HIRED by us and they can be FIRED by us. get to the polls and VOTE. GOD Bless America.
I’m a civilian — just wanted to thank you all who refuse to back off against tyranny. I’m very proud of you. I’ll do what I can to help. THANK YOU. Legalize the Constitution!
Finally! I have been involved in politics here in Ohio for quite sometime. Even though I am a registered Republican Central Committeeman I consider myself a Libertarian. I will say this my own party could care less about the Constitution, the People, or Law and believes it to be above all, The Democrat party does the same thing and this is sad. All either party looks at is the American Taxpayer as an open wallet to do with their money as they wish for they are their subjects. I am not kidding. All either party does is put one American against another when we should stand together.
Keep up the good work and Thank you!
I don’t see government charging in and stripping us of our rights, No, I see them romancing them out from under us. By the time someone blows the whistle to go over the top in response to oppression and tyranny it will by to late. Tyranny is not applied in sweeping measures, it is slowly chiseled into a society little by little. Looking historically at the way Americans respond to an over reaching government, there is nothing to prove we will not succumb eventually. your obedience to being a licensed driver is just one of so many examples, the licensing of your car is another. No My fellow Americans, we are far from the mentality of our founding fathers, we will march happily to our destination, just as soon as government finds a palatable elixor
The Constitution is what we our country is based on. If they want something else, vote and amend the Constitution. Anything else is treason.
If they come for my guns, house, belongings, or family, God have mercy on them. I will not.
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let us join hands and take up arms to defend this country that so many have given their lives for,in defending her,we join a brotherhood of free men,who fought in a noble and righteous cause,who`s only hopes were that all men were created with certain rights given to them by their creator,among those were LIFE,LIBERTY and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS let us meet on this field of battle once more,with a unified purpose,,for honor for country,,,,Victory.
Oathkeepers may well be one of the most important concepts of our age. I am not a veteran but would proudly fight for the stars and stripes if called upon. Let’s take back this nation and keep her safe.
God Bless Oathkeepers.
We came her to the new land, to get away from the lords and govnas(brit talk) and their taxes and tyrant ways… now it appears our congress is becoming that which we rejected over 200 years ago. I am 48yrs old. I have long feared this day would come and hope that I am able to pick up and fight alongside my fellow Americans. Fear for my children/grandchildren. As soon as the government of the US forced our factorys out of our country, we started down hill. No way to sustain our own people. To provide them with the means to support them selves. Now they turn to their Uncle Sam and he is selling out to the enemy and kicking dirt in our faces. The more I think, the more angry I get…
I’m waiting for a state (hopefully Texas) to write its own declaration of independence….then I’m moveing myself and family to that state.
I corrected my email address for the keepers of this blog… my apologies…
There are several states who have submitted their sovereignty statements. I believe there is more patriotism out west than out here in the east… (hope to rile up some sleepers with that one).
I have served in the military and still to this day accept the oath…
I served four years in the Marine Corps, 18 of those months were spent over seas fighting the Islamic extremest after the bombings in East Africa and after the U.S.S Cole was bombed. I fought for in other countries for peoples who I’ve never met to stop oppression. If our government is delusional enough to think that I wont stand up and fight against oppression in THIS country ‘they’ got another thing coming. I took an Oath too, To fight ALL enemies FOREIGN and DOMESTIC. You can take my guns out of my dead cold hands FED!
Russ….we don’t want you!!!!!
When the time comes remember many of us you might think enemy HAVE YOUR BACK!
I am a Vietnam Vet and retired from the US Navy (21 years)and then joined the DOD/DON police force at the local Naval Weapons Station. I took an oath to defend this Nation from all enemies, both FOREIGN & DOMESTIC. I can still defend this country. They can have my guns when they pry them out of my cold, dead hands.
Well I hope the police and military will stand down. Seeing how there are what? 100 million gun owners in America. Obama is a marxist and is not going to waste anytime changing this country. The 2010 election is very important.
It has been a long time since I took the oath which is administered at an induction center. The las time was 1983. I seem to remember that I pledge to defend the Constitution of the United Sates of America and the country for which it stands, against all enemies, Foreign or Domestic, ….
Is it possible to obtain a copy of the Pledge so that We may have a clear memory of our oaths?
G-D Bless America and those who serve.
While I haven’t gone deep into the site yet, I will say that I agree with the ten items posted on the main page.
For informational purposes, I am a retired USMC Scout Sniper, 2nd Force Recon out of LeJeune, and am proud of my 8 years of service.
That being said, I see alot of people misinterpreting what has been said as far as the oaths are concerned. I will and do take my oath to defend this great country from enemies both foreign and domestic, I will not ever follow an order, nor would I fire a shot to hurt someone, citizen or not in a manner not consistent with my oath, or not consistent with a constitutional law.
The people who think that this site is run by”kooks”, it is you who need to educate yourselves a bit before speaking, read the site. And if after reading, you still feel that it is wrong, thenI feel sorry for you and your “herd of sheep” mentality.
Semper Fidelis. And thank you from my heart to those who serve, protect and put themselves in harm’s way for my right to live.
The Bassmekanick.
Big MIke #248,
When preparing to fire a weapon, you are required to lead the target to anticipate and compensate for what will cause you to miss the mark.
60 to 70 years ago events took weeks or months to transpire. Now events are happening in hours and days.
Any who have not been on guard, should determine if the situation is real and find someone to follow, (questioning and deciding as you go.) Remember Pearl Harbor, waiting until the last second to decide is disastrous.
Breath taking intellectual dissonance: Oath Keepers Is placed on a list of radical violent right-wing and hate speech organizations when it’s explicit oaths are in fact pacifistic, merely asking armed civil servants to lay down their arms when ordered to enforce an otherwise unconstitutional command or order. See: http://www.lvrj.com/news/oath-keepers-pledges-to-prevent-dictatorship-in-united-states-64690232.html
Oath Keepers are simply calling soldiers, police officers, investigative agents (FBI?), sheriffs, fire fighters, etc., to not unconstitutionally disarm citizens, conduct warrantless searches, detain citizens as enemy combatants; subject citizens to trial by military tribunal; impose martial law or forcefully enter a state; invade or subjugate a state asserting its constitutional sovereignty; participate in the blockading of any American city (turning it into a concentration camp), force citizens into detention camps; assist or support foreign troops on US soil to allegedly “keep the peace”; confiscate private property or in any way infringe the right of citizens to free speech, peaceable assembly, or their right to petition the government for redress.
Most if not all of these things have happened several times in our nation’s history. Given the anti-constitutional bent of many in the House and Senate, such an oath is indeed timely, appropriate and above all aimed at further establishing and defending the constitution. This is not call to lawlessness. Oath Keepers is not calling for violence, only that public servants promise to not deny citizens or states their due constitutional rights. For this they are placed on a hate-speech watch list? That is intellectual dissonance.
Joe #245,
You need a back bone Joe, you are a socialist and are against the country which allows you to speak your mind. It seems that you are a College Professor that has listened to too many other liberals that never defended the freedoms they enjoy.
I personally know that American Freedoms have and will come at a cost, to those seeking to defend Family, Friends, Country and Nation. I also know that there are many who enjoy those Freedoms without having taken time to consider that, what they personally espouse will destroy not only the Nation, the Country, their friends and family, but themselves as well.
The United States of America, is the enigma of Nations. It has stood for more than 230 years, which is contrary to the history of the nations of the earth.
What is coming is beyond belief, terrifying. Not just for the USA, not just for Israel, but for all peoples of the earth.
Joe you are either blind to this or not as smart as you think you are. A pity and a waste.
I hope that you find G-D and seek His help.
When an American civilian turns in an Islamic terrorist organization doing business with the US Government, and the Federal legal apparatus refuses to prosecute said terrorist organization for terrorist crimes against the American people – as in 9/11 and more – which the Federal law enforcement has LONG HELD proof, will OATH KEEPERS join me in making it right, in putting out that organization and all its tentacles, by any and all means… as that is my caveat for joining, and it is a good first mission.
As I was reading through some of these comments, I realized that it was quite easy to tell the difference between comments by military members (past or present) and non military members.
As a member of the military, the president is your Commander In Chief, and as such, he deserves respect, regardless of what you actually think of him. I am glad to see that the only negative comments about our current president are from non serving Americans.
As a member of the US Navy, I support the current administration, and my President as well. However, if I am ordered to perform any of the tasks listed here, I will refuse.
The term they use is laughable: “hate-speech watch list” is really “hate-dictator speech watch list” The elitists control the media e.g., Soros has his Soros media machine – and the power of a free people freaks them out. Interestingly, each of these mega financial monsters behind political puppets has their own private list, one backed wiht deadly force, and they have endless funds which they have used and continue to use to do everything from character assassination to actual assassination of people: journalists, District Attorneys, Fedearl prosecutors, other law enforcement officers, many civilian whistleblowers, on and on. They have the funds and establish influence hit-teams on the people’s media, the Internet. So, look past these labels, and create your own watch list e.g., “politicians in the pocket of dictator makers”…”media outlets funded by Soros”, or others like him. Soros is just one, I use that as a recent example, as it points to the location of “mega forces” that are pulling out all the stops to destroy America from within before the next election.
Thank you Oath Keepers. I can sleep easier knowing that there are patriots watching over my rights, and the rights of my children.
I am not military or law enforcement. I’m a former teacher, now stay-at-home mom. But I, too, took this same oath before I was allowed to teach in a government classroom. I, too, will keep my oath.
Though I own no firearms and have no combat training, I will teach my children about their duty to uphold the Constitution. And someday I will be proud to see my two sons take that same oath to defend the Constitution.
Amen!
Recommend you amend unlawful order number two to explicitly incorporate the warrant-less wiretaps authorized in the ill-named PATRIOT act. One could assume it is included in the “effects” category, however, since electronic media are not explicitly mentioned in your manifesto it calls to question whether you are against the excesses of the ill-named PATRIOT act or not.
For all you flag wavers out there… you are all phony… cowards made soft by money, porn surfing, and TV watching. At the first sign of trouble, your tail will be between your legs and you will willingly go into the cattle cars to your deserved detention centers. Even if there were any real patriots left out there, there are so few that you will make no difference.
What was the population of the US in 1860? Yet I believe 500,000 died for their respective cause. If you had to, you couldn’t come up with 5,000 to defend the founding fathers dream. Sad, but true.
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As an Army veteran and the parent of a soldier I pledge my allegiance to the survival of this Rebublic and the Constitution. God protect the Oath Keepers.
My son died in Iraq so that Iraqi’s could enjoy freedom if they decide that they want it. But I think that their religion will drag them back into the blackest oblivion once we leave and they are free to institute Sharia law without interference.
My generation (the baby boomers) are the ones who are responsible for the mess that we find ourselves in…always voting for the corrupt pols that promise the most “freebies” at a cost that is bankrupting our nation, our children and our grandchildren. Shame on us. I hope that I live long enough to see us return to the Constitutional Republic that we started out as. If us boomers have to be at the front of the line for anything, let it be the line that leads to the Capitol to throw the crooks out with millions behind us.
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The police already smash in doors to serve warrants. I’d say you’re a little late.
I support the principles of the organization, but the nature of some of the comments here trouble me.
I guess the test would come if there was another terrorist attack and a government ordered that all Muslim or Arab U.S. citizens be imprisoned in concentration camps as Japanese-Americans were in WWII.
How many of these commenters would keep their oaths then?
Thank you, all of you. I hope it doesn’t come to this anytime soon, but it’s good to know you are here.
I’m the bad boy that the military wouldnt take, I lost my right to cary a fire arm, and im always looking for a fight… They are pushing in small portions compared to where they can at the fall of a coin….When that day comes and its a mass matter…my self and many others like me will remember the country we live in and where never want to be…And we will stand united and fight hand in hand…Taking guns of every american dron that falls under our watch and plow the system
I am a son of the American Revolution . My ancestor of the same sir name served as an officer for 4 yearsfrom 1776 . He was a patriot. When the time comes I will be with you .
The only rules here that have been broken, by your standards, were broken by the president that, let’s be honest, you voted for until 2008. Everything else is just capitalizing on propaganda by nut jobs. You get belligerent when it’s the other side deciding the future. You are no different than “bystanders” who egg on high school fights. Worse though, you question the patriotism of those who support Democrats when they call foul on the very same crimes you say are inexcusable. It’s really not that difficult to see your angle and call your own internal conflicts. Your belligerent and conflicting agenda followers will never be unified because they are too sure they’re more right than the other human being (God’s creation)who has alligned himself with you goof balls. Please, just promise to wait until any of your scenarios actually happen before you go postal. Because, it won’t happen under Obama… I know, I know, it’s hard to believe, but trust me, you’ve got the wrong guy, always have…unless your rules weren’t really what got you so upset… Thanks
“I guess the test would come if there was another terrorist attack and a government ordered that all Muslim or Arab U.S. citizens be imprisoned in concentration camps as Japanese-Americans were in WWII.”
Islam is , by its very nature, incompatible with a republic or democracy. The Koran requires an Islamic RELIGIOUS govt, therefore, Muslims should not be allowed to immigrate into the USA. All Muslims who are not citizens should be repatriated to their home country where they can practice their religion and have the pure Islamic religious govt that they pray for daily.
Islam and any other religion that REQUIRES the extermination of all people who do not follow their particular faith are incompatible with free societies.
I’m no longer active duty, but I do not recall that the oath I first took as a naval officer nearly thirty years ago had an expiration date. I’m glad to see that those currently serving take it just as seriously as I did, and I’ll be proud to back you up if the time comes.
I am a retired Texas Master Peace officer with 42 years on the line. I’m also a Veteran of the Korean War and a Naval air veteran. I’ve been upholding the Constitution for many years and I can still shoot as good as ever although I’m 76 years old now with some over the hill weight, but my service to my country will continue for the rest of my life. I also have a BS in Law Enforcement Administration and stand ready to defend my country at any time. I’m not yet a member but I intend to join as soon as I figure out how. Our country is being torn apart by Obama and the left wing Congress and I fear for our future safety while in their hands.
In my job I swore to uphold the Constitution, regardless of which administration is elected by our citizens. Why the hyped up protest now? Where was the oath keepers’ outrage when the Bush Administration was openly violating the Constitution? Some of the oaths don’t even appear to recognize Congresses’ authority under Article I, Section 8. I don’t think one can claim to uphold the Constitution by contravening it.
Although not military or law enforcement, I stand ready to defend my families rights, first peacefully through education and voting. We have a choice in 2010 to make a peaceful change in the mid term elections. My brother recently passed away. One of the things that I kept was a statue of a man leaving his coat on his plow and picking up his musket and powder horn. He was militia. Don’t discount the rest of American’s that can be called to serve.
There are thousands of federal agents that are sympathatic to your cause. Unfortunately, your group is currently being labelled a subversive “hate-group” by certain entities within the U.S. Government. Due to this fact, no current employee of the “G” with a security clearance of Top Secret or higher can claim, endorse, or have any affiliation with your group. By doing so, they would subject themselves to scrutiny by the US Attorney and face dismissmal from their jobs and subsequent loss of their pension. It is unfortunate but true, rest assured you might not have any offical members that I speak of, however….there are THOUSANDS that will do the right thing when push comes to shove. – The Patriot-
Why weren’t you all doing this 8 years ago? Thanks for finally coming around to liberal progressive idea that the “Patriot Act” is un-American as were the Bush/Cheney doctrine of fear and loathing. Here here!
I am proud of the premise of this group! Thank you Mr Rhodes for kicking this into gear. I am not military, police, fire, guardsmen, etc, but a grateful citizen. I don’t even own a firearm…yet. I do believe in freedom and liberty and all that the US Constitution and our founding fathers stood and fought for!
I am glad to see that I feel the same as commentor #290 in regards to many, many others who are unable to affiliate themselves with O.K., but sympathize with your declarations.
I am a Vet. I will not lay down for anyone. I will question with boldness. I will oppose tyranny of any sort, I will support the Constitution against any agressors. My oath has never been recinded. I am glad to be counted as a patriot. I see and understand what is coming towards us. I will resist.
I am a 45 year old. Veteran of the Army. And I sure am glad to see that other people see what I have seen coming. If the time comes and I;m sure it will when we will have to take back our country and birth right I will be their ready and willing.
Joe, #245. Proofread your own posts. Its “arrogance”, not “agorance”. And, perhaps this points out just how bad our publice education system is. I am sure that most here attended public education. I apologize folks, for using this forum in this manner.
Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! This is the first I’ve heard of this program. I’ve been fighting a long drawn out battle (civilly) with the federal government for so long that I had about lost hope that there were many patriots left. Your Declaration above and these repeated blogs give me hope that when the fight begins, perhaps we few will not be so outnumbered. The number of criminals I myself have witnessed in the federal government, the treason that they so easily perpetrate and the speed at which these usurpations of late have advanced give me little hope that peace can be maintained. Everyone that has neither taken the time to study law (Constitution) or history always query me as to why I fight at all. I try to explain it to them, but they always come back to “You can’t fight city hall!” Well, as most in the military understand, when you’re attacked, whether by foreign enemies or domestic (city hall), to not fight back is to give up. And that’s about as un-American as it gets.
“I will not go silently into tyranny.”
Brian Kilcullen
EnemiesinWar.com
I am no soldier, nor am I a law enforcement officer. I am an American Mother and Grandmother.
Still, my grandfather put a BB gun in my hand at age 5 and a shotgun at age 10. I can shoot, though I wish it would never have come to this point. Though disabled, I can still care for the children of others so that they may fight, help bind wounds and heal the injured, pray for those still fighting and those who have given their all. If God is willing, I pledge to you my fellow Americans, my life, my fortune, and my sacred honor. But I hold this in reserve: In December of this year, Barack Hussein Obama is poised to use article VI of our Constitution against us in a way that will dissolve the soveriegnty of the United States and nullify the Constitution. This will be done by using his constitutional authority to sign and implement international treaties. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40 (see speech by Lord Monckton Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher’s Science Advisor)
The Treaty of Copenhagen, under the guise of global climate change mitigation, http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/content/international/press/reports/ngo-copenhagen-treaty-legal.pdf signs away our country and places it under a One World Communist Government. It uses Article VI of our own constitution against us. Our Senate is the ONLY hope we have for stopping this perversion of our law to its direct opposite.
Should they fail us, we need to consider this: will we support the letter of the law in the constitution which can technically be distorted to allow our enslavement, or will we enforce the spirit of our constitution to defend and maintain our freedoms as intended by our forefathers?
I for one MUST do the latter and I pray that you here today will do the same even though it does not meet the technical letter of the law.
FYI Article VI (please pay close attention to the supremacy clause as that is what will void our freedom) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Six_of_the_United_States_Constitution
Thank you for your time. I apologise for the length of the post, but this is critical and imminent.
~Sarah
I support this movement and represent the thirteen generation American, plus one. East to West coast’s. Without going into my family history, I feel a history lesson is in order. I am from repressed Scot’s/Irish who’s been on the run since day one. Robbed and treated worse than any slave could possibly imagine through this crazy history we call the United States. Through all adversity we have faced, theres been good and bad times depending on the year and season, we have and will prevail. My family motto is “Delve Deep and persevere”. My brothers and kinsman, this is the Constitution our forfathers wrote, get to know it and know it well and why we are where we are in our history. Act of 1871…http://www.byronwine.com/files/1871.pdf
Our goverment or should I say that the district of Colubia is illegitimate. Unfortunately most education is just what they want us to know and the internet will soon be next to be scrubed and regulated if they can figure out how to do that..LMAO!!! Hope you all like what I’m bringing to the party..illegitimate X100,000,000,000…. BTW if i bump into some o dez Beezy postin here im liftin em out day shoes. I’m a Treal Yay Boy….Thizz or Die…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ufB26nw0Vk
….Till then im keepin my oath to the….
Constitution for the United States of America
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Can ya Diggit!!!
DKM
T.I.P.
……PS…..to this dude….
I actually do wish the government would round up the <1% of you right wing wackos and put you away. You guys are a threat to the rest of us calm, rational Americans. I pray that we don't see another Oklahoma City.
Comment by boss hog — September 14, 2009
It's not my job….It's my duty..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Szl_JyCUQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Szl_JyCUQ&feature=related
Boss Tycoon
I'm a Savage…I won't be wearin a uniform if this pops off I'll be wearing Feileadh Mor with a 1% patch…you beezy
P.S. it’s not my job anymore…it’s still and alway’s will be my duty. I’ll be wearing my Feileadh Mor not a uniform.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Szl_JyCUQ&feature=related
I am a 64 year old granny who has never served, but whose family is represented in every branch of the military, and firemen. Anyone with half a brain can see what is happening to our country. I have dumped my stocks, in favor of guns, ammo, and emergency supplies. I have a CCW permit, so I will be a gun-totin’ Granny. It is an insurance policy I hope to never have to use.
And to Matt, who had a problem with our spelling and grammar, I don’t have to know how to spell to load my weapons and aim straight. So you keep studying spelling, and I’ll keep target-practicing.
Gun-totin’ Granny
I confess I feel sheepish suggesting an addition to the ten orders Oath Keepers will not obey. But this one is crucial. It has been so since the 1950s, and it flares forth today with front-page urgency.
Although not stated in the Oath, I’m certain Oath Keepers would not obey orders that would force Americans to undergo involuntary medical or psychiatric treatments.
We have all seen the rumors–and they remain rumors–of plans to detain any Americans who might refuse certain injections or vaccines. That decision must remain every individual’s and every parent’s right.
But since the 1950s, Russia, South Africa, a few South American countries and China have used pretexts of “psychiatric treatment” to silence dissidents, whistle-blowers and over-zealous Constitutionalists. Sometimes, it was merely to remove a troublesome candidate for public office, sometimes to gain access to an elder person’s assets. (South Africa’s use of psychiatric detention camps for troublesome Blacks seems to have ended.)
The psychiatric “treatments” used “for the person’s own good” include elevated doses of mind-bending psychiatric medicines to scramble brain chemistry. These countries also used/use lobotomies. Today, ECT (electro-convulsive therapy) aka “electric shock” is making a comeback. ECT was what drove Ernest Hemingway to repeated attempts of suicide.
On a mass scale, such a program is far cheaper than imprisoning someone for years. In a few days, they simply eradicate the intellectual, memory, and other “troublesome” parts of the human brain.
I just ask that we all be alert to ANY government’s use of medical and psychiatric means to control, coerce, or manipulate its citizens.
Nearly every state already has a law–today–now–on its books allowing a psychiatrist, sometimes just a clinic employee or an officer, to order a 72-hour involuntary psychiatric hold. All they need do is write on a slip of paper the fateful words, “May be a danger to self or others,” and off you go for 72 hours of drugs and possibly ECT.
So the legal means, and the chemical tools exist today. Let’s make sure they are not further misused in the USA as they have been elsewhere.
I’m 23 years old. I realize the importance of a foundation, that is, our nations foundation. I realize that America is not what it was or was meant to be. I’m angered and saddened to see such things. Pray God has mercy and shows this nation His grace. Exercise your born-into-God-given-rights lest you loose them. We need to retaliate and stand with Truth. As long as the Truth is on our side we cannot loose. Remember and rely on our foundations. Trust in the Word in which this nation was breathed from, trust in the Truth in which our foundations derive themselves from. As long as we do not slip into silent complacency there is hope. On every level, in every aspect this nation must be taken back and brought to its TRUE potential. God Bless! IMPEACH OBAMA!
“Why weren’t you all doing this 8 years ago? Thanks for finally coming around to liberal progressive idea that the “Patriot Act” is un-American as were the Bush/Cheney doctrine of fear and loathing. Here here!”
Exactly the point, where were the Tea Parties and the Oath Keepers during the Bush/Cheney subjugation of the Constitution and illegal wars?
Stand up for the Constitution 24/7 and not just when the Democrats are in power.
[...] their “Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey” seems rather innocuous. However, one should take a close, careful look at the choice of words. The [...]
P.S Excuse my gramatical errors for those who wanna keep pushing it on other take this test to find out if you really have this problem solving skills or problem..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgZGuasi1q0&NR=1
You people are bat-shit insane. This country is way too in love with guns. The rest of the world laughs at us and yet this country thinks thats OK. Open your minds people…you’re not the center of the universe!
Jimb! #304 i remember being thoroughly discusted with bush’s executive order/still think it’s a stoopid doo doo dumb. Thinkin about realing from the coverage of 911 and thinkin, he was out of his skull.
#307 you have a high opinion of yourself i know what kinda drugs im on (damn root canal) stop bein a beezy….sane person…you know what they say bout that don’t you? %^
Take the test 2%
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Szl_JyCUQ&feature=related
P.S. Since when did i care what you even thought about me? You are stoopid doo doo dumb. They are laughin with us about you..I grew up in Hawaii..laugh at that Brah! Juicy barrels was da kine cuz@!
Before i say another word everyone needs to listen and read rather than go off.
This is very important and relevant to this conversation to understand this country and who they think they are brains and all and if you don’t get it you never will.
http://www.byronwine.com/files/1871.pdf
stoopid doo doo dumb
And I give you the original Constitution as written before the Act of 1871
Read and pledge you allegence to this my brothers and sisters.
http://www.constitution.org/constit_.htm
Here Here HillRunner! Good observation. I second thaat as another extension into another power an officer cannot be one to discern concerning ones person, because they may be “irrate”. How bothersome. Good thing i have a high I!Q….but can’t type wortha damn..
I have four sons and one able bodied young husband. My husband is already supportive of your stance and will probably join. I will be informing my sons about you, and encouraging a similar patriotism. I think your group will become more important to people like us as time goes on, and I say give me liberty or give me death!
I am so glad to have found this organization. I trust we stick together and I am confident most freedom-loving citizens of our country will support us.
“It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government.”
Thomas Paine
Paul Balmer
Chief Master-At-Arms, USN
Police Officer, Clearwater, FL Police Dept.
[...] aside, their “Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey” seems like things people like, I don’t know, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, or Patrick [...]
[...] must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves…”, they say “Such a time is near at hand again.” Really? Why didn’t this organization get started any earlier that March, 2009? Did [...]
I see a lot of focus on the issues of our rights but the real issue is the moral turpitude of the American people and the education of our children. We have chosen as a people the dark behavior that is leading us to destruction. Our leaders used to be encouraged to take the high road when making decisions affecting our liberties but that has changed. Standing on our rights is good and right but I begin to wonder if we care about those rights since we live like we don’t care. I know that there are still those who care how we live and I believe that God, our Father, still blesses this country based on the strength of the Christian church but that is changing fast too. I hope that the heart of the people changes for this will change the way government responds at the ballot box but until that happens, war within our borders is inevitable. I am a vet of the Vietnam war (Marine) but I am also a Christian and I have seen the heart of the American people change and unless it turns back I see no hope for her survival. Darkness is very dark so goes the heart.
“Why weren’t you all doing this 8 years ago? Thanks for finally coming around to liberal progressive idea that the “Patriot Act” is un-American as were the Bush/Cheney doctrine of fear and loathing. Here here!”
Exactly the point, where were the Tea Parties and the Oath Keepers during the Bush/Cheney subjugation of the Constitution and illegal wars?
Stand up for the Constitution 24/7 and not just when the Democrats are in power.”
We get that all the time. Well, I was here:
http://stewart-rhodes.blogspot.com/
I was a very outspoken critic of most of what Bush did, because most of what he did violated the Constitution, especially his extraordinary claims of executive “war power.” In fact, my writings on that topic won an award from Yale University.
Most of us here at Oath Keepers can show a proven track record of being consistent about our defense of the Constitution no matter which party is in power.
How bout you? Are you consistent? Are you speaking out against Obama’s violations too, now that your guy is in power? Or do you only quote the Founders when the other team has the ball?
Stewart Rhodes
I am a 57 year old veteran. The son of a 30-year Army veteran. I have been watching the objectives of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderbergers (and their support organizations) continually being achieved in this country. Now, we have a president that would rather spend millions of dollars to prevent having to simply flash a real birth certificate than to prove in ten seconds that he is qualified under the Constitution to be President of the United States.
Watching this President and our Congress (House and Senate)repeatedly pass legislation that they have no authority under the Constitution to even bring to the floor for discussion has caused me great sorrow for this country. Then, today, I received an email directing me to this website; and I literally had to hold back the tears when I read “Not on my watch,” and read the Oath of this great organization.
One thing I would caution this organization to heed is “treaty law,” for our Constitution yields to treaties that we make with other countries; and we are about to give away the farm in the global warming treaty that is being negotiated right now. It is through treaties that our sovereignty suffers the greatest harm; so if treaties are signed that direct law enforcement and military personnel to do the things this organization refuses to do; then you will be in violation of the very Constitution that you vow to defend. We must defend against making unwise treaties.
I am so glad to have found this website. Count me in.
Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty, Claims British Lord
http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/u-s-to-cede-sovereignty-to-un-with-climate-treaty/
http://www.resistnet.com/group/watchdogforcapandtradebill/forum/topics/unfccc-091709-and-th
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40
My grandfather was a Wolfhound and fought in World War 2 from the age of 19. He was shot at by Japanese Zeros in his bunk in Schofield Barracks and also went on to serve through Guadalcanal as a active platoon leader. His stories of quiet bravery and subdued heroism at such a young age inspired me to be the man I am today. My grandfather was born at the right time to make a massive difference in the world. It looks like the time for this generation to stand up as well may be near…
[...] must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves…", they say "Such a time is near at hand again." Really? Why didn’t this organization get started any earlier that March, [...]
Good stuff. You just need to add to it:
“We will NOT obey an order to deploy to a foreign country to fight a war that has not been Constitutionally declared by Congress”.
You are being watched, be careful.
I’M 70 YEARS OLD. I’M IN POOR HEALTH. WHEN I WAS YOUNGER. I SERVED MY COUNTRY IN THE U.S. MARINE CORPS. AND ALSO THE 7TH SPECIAL FORCES. WHILE I’M AM NO LONGER FIT FOR TO FIGHT LIKE I ONCE COULD. I CAN STILL SHOLDER A SHOOT A RIFLE. AND I WILL BE PROUD TO FIGHT FOR MY COUNTRY ONCE MORE.
JUST ASK.
DENNIS WILBERG
Like so many of the people who have left comments, I have not served in the military or law enforcement (but I was an EMT for 23 years) but I wholeheartedly and unequivically support the cause of The Oathkeepers. I will be proud to stand side-by-side with The Oathkeepers in defending our constitutional rights. May God bless America and The Oathkeepers. Tim.
I am a former Marine Sergeant and I am disgusted with what is going on in our Executive and Congressional Branches of government. Tyranny is on the march from the left and you can count me in as one of the soldiers who will oppose relinquishing my freedoms to a fascist state.
[...] the Oather’s Declaration of Orders We Will NOT Obey: “We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches of the American people, their [...]
This website sickens me. Yes, many of the things in your Declaration of orders you won’t obey are important, however, they’re all in the constitution already. And in case you didn’t know, all law enforcement and military are required to uphold the Constitution even if they are given a direct order that contradicts it. The are REQUIRED to disobey that order. #5 is just ridiculous! I’ve noticed that some of the comments are from people who are from the deep south who still want to secede, but all this talk of a “Second American Revolution” is just crazy. States do NOT have the right to secede, they must change the government by joining other states and fighting in CONGRESS. If you get elected PRESIDENT and you have a majority in CONGRESS, you can do what you want for the most part. Change the government that way. Not like this.
This is not the time for arms. If and ONLY if that time comes, I won’t take up arms against you, the country would likely be better off without you.
“A house divided amongst itself cannot stand.” -Lincoln
For eight years we have watched the country ever increasingly travel the road to economic disaster. In the past 10 months the effort has accelerated unabated. Worse individuals that believe in socialism (aka communism, totalitarianism) have infested the executive branch. Van Jones (avowed communist) now thankfully gone. Anita Dunn Communications Director turns to Mao Tse Tung (a mass murder and pedophile) as her favorite philosopher. John Holdren (Science Czar) wants forced abortions and mass sterilizations. Mark Lloyd (Diversity Czar) idolizes Hugo Chavez. The Regulatory Czar (Cass Sunstein) wants to ban hunting and establish legal rights for live stock and other animals so they could file lawsuits in American courts. Todd Carr (Climate Czar) supports Cap and Trade (aka Tax and Traitor) system.
Is it any wonder that Americans are wondering about the state of the country and the direction that Obama is leading the Nation. I can not see the future clearly, but the horizon today is dark and foreboding. These are now the times that will try our souls. How will posterity measure us as we face the challenge of our day? Will we give in to tyranny? Will we go gently into that good night? Will we be complacent, subservient and consent to the yoke of slavery which is what the progressives (aka Socialists, Marxists and Communists) are desperately trying to hang around the necks of the American people?
Nay, I say,
Now is the time we must stand together against the coming dark. You can not measure the dark; you can only measure the absence of light. So, as long as of good character stand firm then the wave of socialism (aka enslavement) will be broken and come to ought. Better to die free defending the Constitution than live enslaved by a nanny state.
DO NOT TREAD ON ME! NEVER SURRENDER, NEVER FORGET.
SEMPER FI.
I think it’s all hot air. I doubt anyone would start to rise up. Most would be running for the hills when the US Army came in or air force.
I think if it was a real threat, we’d know way ahead of time. Yeah, they can chip away, but I think the world and America will go the way of Humanity.
Just always have to voice up!
Good Luck….I had toy soldiers when I was a little tyke
‘Someone Sane’ has evidently not been paying much attention, either to current events or to history. When a government fears its people, there is freedom. When a people fear their government there is tyranny. I like Oath Keeper’s unconpromising spirit. It is compromise that has brought us to this sorry state. Hopefully the tide can be turned by peaceful resistance.
Thank you to all that have served and put their lives on the line for the rest of us THANKS. I am with you 100% The Constitution has afforded for the People to be the most important Check and Ballance to Tyranny and I will gladly do my part if the time ever comes. I am sad to see our government demolishing our Constitution and commend you for holding your ground on these basic matters.
To Sab #333,
Dear Sab,
Why do things always happen in three’s? Your very nieve about the real world. This way of Humanity you talk about. If history has any posterity and truth this humanity way as you’ve coined is so flawed. We are the beacons of humanity. There is no other society on earth that has more humanity than the United States of America. We have done more than any country for the betterment of the world and have more in our little pinky than anyone. If you think that the U.N. is the example we should follow, youve been endoctrinated. Maturity to comprehend that soldiering is not a matter of playing with toys but one of responsibility and passion to never waiver from knowing who you are and what your fighting for. If you think the world and words that coin feel good puppy love has your best intentions, keep talking to those who would serve you to thier children for dinner and call it good enough. It’s time to put away your toys your not a little tyke anylonger. BTW the Chinese really believe in “luck”. I pray the good Lord opens your eyes from the dribble, you pay lip service to.
Bless you and yours,
Dan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQ9g3l9Rfs
Be carefull you beezy.
[...] must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves…", they say "Such a time is near at hand again." Really? Why didn’t this organization get started any earlier that March, [...]
I have lost all respect for our federal government with the emergence of Marxism that is now being imposed upon every American. It’s been 40 years since Vietnam for me. I say, bring it on!
I haven’t forgotten my military training and tactics. This graybeard Marine would love a good rush in my old age.
Semper Fi!
12th Marines, 3rd Division
To all the lost boys
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Mac+Dre+-+Since+%2784&hl=en&emb=0#
The story of Gideon
The children of Israel did evil in the sight of the Lord and He delivered them into the hand of Midian for seven years. The Israelites took refuge in dens and strongholds in the mountains, and in caves. At harvest time, when the crops which had been sown by the Israelites were ready for the reaping, the Midianites came with their numbers of camels and ate up the crops. They were so many of them that when they left, the land was bare, with no food for man or the animals.
The children of Israel cried out to God and wanted to know why this great trouble had come upon them, and He sent them a prophet to tell them that it was because He had brought them up out of Egypt, and had delivered them from all oppression, and He had told them not to worship the gods of the country in which they lived, for He was the Lord their God. They had not obeyed Him, and for this they were being punished.
There was a man among the Israelites who did not want to worship any but Yahweh. His name was Gideon, and one day as he sat threshing wheat by the wine-press to hide it from the Midianites. An angel of the Lord appeared and spoke to him, saying, “The Lord is with you, mighty man of valour and you have been chosen to save Israel.”
The next day Gideon took ten of his servants and went up to the hill on which an altar had been erected to the false gods whom the people were worshiping. He threw down the false altars, and built an altar to God in the same place, and on it he made a burnt offering to God.
The next morning when the people saw what had been done, they cried out to one another. “Who has done this thing?” they shouted. The men of the city went to Joash, Gideon’s father, and they asked him to send his son out, that he might be put to death. Gideon’s father refused, saying, “Why should you plead for Baal? If he is a god, he should plead for himself against the one who has wronged him.”
All the Midianites and the Amalekites and the children of the east were gathered together, and went over, and pitched in the valley of Jezreel. The Spirit of the Lord came upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet, and called a great army together. Before he set out to save Israel, he wanted to be sure that he was the one chosen to do it, so he said to God: “If I am the one chosen to this task, I should like a sign. I will put this fleece of wool upon the earth. If the dew forms on the fleece, but not on the earth, I will know that it is indeed so.”
God did so that night. Gideon returned to his army, and prepared for the battle. God told him that his army was far too large, and he asked Gideon to send home all who were fearful and afraid. So twenty-two thousand went home, and ten thousand remained. Yahweh said that it was still too large, and sent home all but three hundred.
That night Gideon went alone to the camp of the Midianites, and he heard one man telling of a strange dream. “I dreamed,” said the man, ” a cake of barley bread tumbled into the host of Midian, and came to a tent, and smote it that it fell and overturned it, and the tent lay along.” The other answered, “This is nothing else save that sword of Gideon, for into his hand God has delivered Midian and the entire host.”
Gideon returned to his camp. He called up his three hundred men, and gave each of them empty pitchers and lamps and trumpets. He then led them to the enemy camp. When they came to the camp, the three companies blew with their trumpets, broke the pitchers, so that the lights shone out, and shouted, “The sword of Yahweh and of Gideon.” The Midianites were in utter confusion, and Gideon won an easy victory.
Only God knows the true outcome of the next fragile years. I believe it will be a very tough time for all of us. For some of us, veterans and non veterans, we know what hell is. For those who are patriots who have not tasted battle, their hearts are still pure and still are concerned as we are about the current status quo and future outlook. I am fortunate to have served as a “Vietnam Veteran” and know that I did what I had to do, and I was proud to do. My dad was a USMC Drill Instructor and I was raised in a very patriotic, loving and serving environment. He served in WWII at Guadalcanal, Saipan and a lot of other small Solomon Islands. If he was still with us, some of his wisdom would tell me to prepare for a fight. That is exactly what I am doing. I am only one voice, one patriot and one gun, but I refuse to accept that I can’t do something about this. For now, like another poster has said, I use the voting box or the juror box but if I have to, the ammunition box. I hope and pray for a change in direction. But I am not putting a whole lot of confidence in it. I tell all my friends to beware, be vigilant, be observant, be prepared and be ready! The storm is coming and sane minds are now waking up to the evil, waking up to the wrong that is being done, and waking up the threat that is forming. They are concerned enough to be bold enough to do something about it. I am in that group. I applaud all “oath keepers” for their commitment to me and to my family and to my country. I would be an “oath keeper” in a heart beat and want to know more about it. I am 62 but still in sound mind. I know the enemy when I see it and I see it!!!
Sempre Fi – 8th and I
OOORAH!!
The GMAN
Please excuse me, for not including the story i was trying to say, i was cutting and copying this story to give you all something you need to concern you selves with not only for faith in who i and we are but where we might be at some point. without qouting the biblical text i wanted to show you some history and be frank with where we are going to be at sorta. this is the closest i will be allowed to show for now. Read the bible and search to find this historic story. This is just a summary. I want you to not exclude my last post but focus on what I am posting in this one with reference to the ones who were chosen because they laped water like dogs.
thank’s,
Dan
Lessons in the Life of the Judges: Gideon’s Army
By Jim Laffoon
Then the Spirit of the Lord came upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet, summoning the Abiezrites to follow him. He sent messengers throughout Manasseh, calling them to arms, and also into Asher, Zebulun and Naphtali, so that they too went up to meet them.
Gideon said to God, “If you will save Israel by my hand as you have promised—look, I will place a wool fleece on the threshing floor. If there is dew only on the fleece and all the ground is dry, then I will know that you will save Israel by my hand, as you said.”
And that is what happened. Gideon rose early the next day; he squeezed the fleece and wrung out the dew—a bowlful of water. Then Gideon said to God, “Do not be angry with me. Let me make just one more request. Allow me one more test with the fleece. This time make the fleece dry and the ground covered with dew.” That night God did so. Only the fleece was dry; all the ground was covered with dew. Judges 6:34-40
Early in the morning, Jerub-Baal (that is, Gideon) and all his men camped at the spring of Harod. The camp of Midian was north of them in the valley near the hill of Moreh.
The Lord said to Gideon, “You have too many men for me to deliver Midian into their hands. In order that Israel may not boast against me that her own strength has saved her, announce now to the people, ‘Anyone who trembles with fear may turn back and leave Mount Gilead.’”
So twenty-two thousand men left, while ten thousand remained. But the Lord said to Gideon, “There are still too many men. Take them down to the water, and I will sift them for you there. If I say, ‘This one shall go with you,’ he shall go; but if I say, ‘This one shall not go with you,’ he shall not go.”
So Gideon took the men down to the water. There the Lord told him, “Separate those who lap the water with their tongues like a dog from those who kneel down to drink.”
Three hundred men lapped with their hands to their mouths. All the rest got down on their knees to drink. The Lord said to Gideon, “With the three hundred men that lapped I will save you . . .” Judges 7:1-7a
When the spirit of the Lord came upon Gideon, he confidently blew the battle trumpet of Israel. Now, as he surveyed the 32,000 ragged soldiers who had responded to his call, Gideon’s heart was filled with fear. What hope did this broken band of cowards have against the 135,000 seasoned warriors of Midian?
Although he should have known better, Gideon decided to test the Lord.
He placed a small fleece on the rough-hewn threshing floor and asked the Lord to send dew which would specifically cover the fleece but leave the ground dry. In his fear, Gideon felt like a small helpless sheep which was going to be crushed by the Midianites; he needed to know God could apply His fresh power to the army of Israel.
Miraculously, the next morning the fleece was wet and the ground was dry. Even then, Gideon asked for one more test. This time, he asked for the Lord to make the ground wet and the fleece dry. God’s amazing response to the second test totally alleviated Gideon’s fears.
Unfortunately, however, the Lord was only beginning with His tests: “Gideon, tell your men if any of them are afraid, they are free to go now.”
As Gideon reluctantly obeyed the Lord, he was stunned to see 10,000 men turn to leave to go home. At this point, he was so frightened, he wanted to join those who were leaving.
Once again, God spoke: “There are still too many men, Gideon.”
“Too many?” Gideon wondered to himself. “He’s got to be kidding.”
God spoke again: “Bring them down to the water for I will sift them there. Watch closely as they drink. Those that lie down and drink like dogs are to be sent home. On the other hand, those who simply kneel and drink from their hands you are to keep.”
By the time that horrible day was done, Gideon’s small army had been reduced to a mere pittance – three hundred men who were just as frightened as he was.
Why did God take an already-small army and reduce it to a mere handful of men? The answer to this is simple.
Historically, God has won far more battles based on the quality of His servants than He ever has through the quantity of His servants. In fact, He will do whatever it takes to raise the spiritual quality of a church or ministry. This process of divine preparation is beautifully illustrated through the story of Gideon’s army.
First of all, God told Gideon to send home every man with fear in his heart. God knew that fear, like faith, is contagious. If He allowed these fear-ridden men to remain, their terror would affect the faith and morale of the whole army.
Second, God brought the rest of the army to a body of water so they could drink. Only those who carefully drank from their cupped hands were allowed to remain; those who lay down and plunged their faces into the water were disqualified.
They were disqualified because they allowed their personal thirst to become the central focus of their lives. Unlike the three hundred who continued to carefully scan the horizons for enemies while they were drinking, the 21,700 other men were so dominated by their personal needs that they lost sight of the very battle that they had been called to fight.
I cannot count the times I have seen this same type of self-absorption in the Body of Christ.
For many Christians, this self-absorption takes the form of a myopic search for personal revival. Others are so bound by fear and insecurity, they ignore the hurting world around them.
It is critical that you and I allow the Spirit of God to deal with our hearts today; no matter where you are or what you are facing, God is well able to set you free.
Where were you loonies when Bush Jr. was shredding the Constitution? Oh right. I forgot. You were nowhere to be found. Now that a black man is cleaning up the mess left by that ignorant Texas shit-kicker, you whine a cry like the little babies you are. So let me set you straight.
You will achieve nothing.
You will change nothing.
You will do as you’re told.
We, the adults, are in charge now.
We, the adults, are going to STAY in charge.
Permanently.
If you think you will start a revolution, go ahead. We have plenty of room at Guantanamo for the likes of you, and believe you me – we’ll have you rounded up faster and with more force than you ever dreamed possible.
So go ahead and play toy soldier if it makes you feel better. Stay on the sidelines and be left behind. It’s your choice.
Bill is part of the organized internet army, part of ACORN’s tentacles, to seek out conservative websites to target, threaten, mock and destroy. The Alinsky method. They are quite numerous and doing a great job.
Wish I could sit and study all their brainwashing philosophy, but I’m busy sharpening my pitchfork.
To Mr. Hicks
How Ironic,
Adult? Thats like a Beezy, to spill like scribbige you are the revolution, were the response. Black? White? Don’t forget where my heritage comes from. Your not why they died. It is disgracefull to think the white blood spilt, (whit man) for my brothers (black man) that it was for not, don’t bring shame to me..you beezy.. Quotes from Lincoln:
“A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure permanently half-slave and half-free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved – I do not expect the house to fall – but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other.” (House Divided Speech, June 16, 1858)
He wasn’t talkin bout our color but our attitudes toward eachother brought upon us by the Euopee=–ons… Next…Pay a Thizzle…Great men say great thinkin’s
“I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.” (1st Inaugural Address, March 4, 1861)
Meaning slavery is a relative thought…we were trying to bring people into the fold of higher society…Meaning they couldn’t help being “SAVAGE” BTW who sold them to us when we needed manpower to “take care of the land”….all the other Bull was more Euro-pee-on propaganda…that still prevails. It might not be right that people were disciplined,in the way they are, but sometimes SAVAGES white and black are….Period. I am a self evowed SAVAGE….SAV…ya hezzerd..
“Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish, and the war came.” (2nd Inaugural Address, March 4, 1865)…..I’m to uneducated to know what this means…any comments?
“It is the duty of every government to give protection to its citizens, of whatever class, color, or condition, and especially to those who are duly organized as soldiers in the public service.” (Order of Retaliation, July 30, 1863)…
Now this i digg…and totally relevant now more than ever seeing how we are all slaves….STILL!!!
I think this one is of the utmost importance to everyone color crede or whatever. To me it says whatever color crede there is knowledge and bounty to be shared by all…tell me what you think? I still think you all are still my beezy though.
“I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea, and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficient Father who dwelleth in Heaven.” (Proclamation of Thanksgiving, October 3, 1863)
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Mac+Dre+-+Since+%2784&hl=en&emb=0#
T.I.P.
Mac Dre
You BEEZY
?Correction I ment Mr. Hick..YOU BEEZXY>>>
Gimme a flight to Boston
We will stand and defend the American Constitution, live or die, we will remain free! We are ready!!!!
Time to rock!
P.S. Mr. Hicks?
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=LIfes+a+bitch+mac+dre&www_google_domain=www.google.com&hl=en&emb=0#
Get a grip!
President Lincoln on his enemy:
If General McClellan isn’t going to use his army, I’d like to borrow it for a time.” (Commenting on General McClellan’s lack of aggression, 1862)
Beezy punk marshmellow! ha…ha,,hella
I was reading the comments on this page and in doing so I came across #11 posted by Andrew who says that he is in the National Guard. It is clear by his post that he does not think for himself, Andrew, I ask you, being in the Guard, If you were Ordered in to deployment to confiscate property and detain what (the officers appointed above you) determined to be subversive to the United States, And upon deployment you found yourself taking your own parents and family into custody if you would be so willing to listen to what was clearly an unlawful order. If you took the time to read any of the 10 orders that we will not follow you will see that any order contrary to the 10 mentioned above would be illegal as per the constitution. What do YOU stand for? Why did you join the Guard? Let me guess, you wanted the benefits?
You’ll know your enemys by the way they hobble.
(Old Irish saying…sorta.)
Ten commandments said not to kill. Hence the this Irish response. Lame them and let them be known. So that those responsible will be chastised for life, death is too good for them. Why send them to their maker when you still live in their stoopid doo doo dumb mess. ya heard”?” Hell stoopid doo doo dumbies?
DFEZZY
My Tartan….
http://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tartanDetails.aspx?ref=536
Can someone tell me the date the Oathkeepers Organization formed? What event, occurence or condition brought rise to this movement? Why are we just now hearing about this organization? What were the organizers/sympathizers doing during the previous president’s (Bush)administration?
Man free will or FerRael? this is a condition of the human spirit that has been since the day’s the bible came out and then some please just understand yourself and where you are in life others have only but so much patience and resources to come about sharing the speach online and only so much in public to share thier thoughts and ideas for fear of bein riddiculed or whatever..wisen up and come fer da rizzide were commin ta gettit ya heard…P.S. where were you when Clinton was totally commiting crimes and was impeached….Bush..duh that was a speed bump in the history of public servants. Most of “OUR” problems were invented in the early 1900’s..
READ…BEEZY
buy
Danner boots
Dan
You folks crack me up. Stop taking yourselves so fucking seriously; get your heads out of your fucked up assess and get your heads out of the 1700’s. SERIOUSLY… You guys are hysterical!!!!!
P.
S.
Beezy HIc
“You will do as you’re told.”
Get lifted out your shoes ya beezy..Thizz or Die..
your the one kikin shizzle my beezy. Don scrimp on you stiky ill focus on it an bogartit da grizeen den motha, it’s my tit, and your the nipple.
Whooo,
Track Johny”ghahuh”seriously”,
so serious!~ livin to make somethin of himself and teachin others to know the way! Laughable about bein fezzie…don’t laugh there might be kids here and i’m showing constraint. Living in any period of time is a frame of fame mind you think your famous take a serious test and tell me if your not the two percent test#%@
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Szl_JyCUQ&feature=related
After tell me the 1871 wasn’t a farse and gimme a reply you bezzy.
I must admit the valuim isn’t helpin my focus or phyco remembrin whateva, but who cares i still make sense you not so much
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=LIfes+a+bitch+mac+dre&www_google_domain=www.google.com&hl=en&emb=0#
Forgive me guys im lifted…gimme a break.. I’m still wit ya
Still wearin Danner boot
Dan
da kine
“Domain ID:D155496425-LROR
Domain Name:OATHKEEPERS.ORG
Created On:01-Mar-2009 21:07:55 UTC”
It’s just great that you won’t (or say you won’t) enforce the various unconstitutional provisions of BUSH’s “Patriot” Act. Where were you when the Bush administration was actually doing the things you SUSPECT Obama’s MIGHT do? Why did your website only pop into existence after Obama became president? Why did we hear not one f**ing word about your qualms till 2009? (Clue: ’cause you spent eight years with W’s d**k in you mouth.) You are another phony teabagger/John Birch Society-type fake “libertarian” stalking horse for the the fascist far right. You’re no more a REAL libertarian than that anti-choice d*****bag Ron Paul. I fully expect to see your group and groups like it attempt to promulgate a military coup using your bulls**it conspiracy theories as cover. You will not succeed.
#344 Bill Hicks
“STAY”, still! You’ll….still be havin…these problems.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=LIfes+a+bitch+mac+dre&www_google_domain=www.google.com&hl=en&emb=0#
Get yer scratch you
BEEZY
Wear Danner
Dan
To #362 AnnU.S.
Your not feelin it…peep..the internet networks, access to them and the types of them…etc.
LAN – Local Area Network
WLAN – Wireless Local Area Network
WAN – Wide Area Network
MAN – Metropolitan Area Network
SAN – Storage Area Network, System Area Network, Server Area Network, or sometimes Small Area Network
Have only been accessable for a short time how do you think most people have been accessing technology for communication? Let me clue you in….family, friends and so forth and they are the ones usually that only want to respond without berating your lack of spelling and punctuation that you would want to respond to. Period. Next we hava a government and media that wouldn’t cover it even if you did…DUH!!!>>> Wake up. I’ve been here where were you! You must be a new neutallity beezy. Plus it’s really sad to pick on Ron Paul..who in the lame game of media hasn’t, more dribble, do you even get him? More pidgeon hole ER Doo Doo Stoopid.
P.S.
I’ll use; coup as a badge of honor
def; ie:
coup1 [koo] Show IPA
Use coup in a Sentence
–noun, plural coups [kooz; Fr. koo] Show IPA . 1. a highly successful, unexpected stroke, act, or move; a clever action or accomplishment.
2. (among the Plains Indians of North America) a brave or reckless deed performed in battle by a single warrior, as touching or striking an enemy warrior without sustaining injury oneself.
Also when did free speach include !@$$%#%@#$^$##^&
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just say dirt if you mean it
you DIRT BAG!~
This isn’t a race issue its a us issue since 1871
http://www.byronwine.com/files/1871.pdf
http://www.constitution.org/constit_.htm
Gimme a flight to Boston Beezy
I.E.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=can+you+shout&www_google_domain=www.google.com&hl=en&emb=0#
Beezy
Dan
Blast from the past:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Wanted_for_treason.jpg
I’m IN with you!
I am NOT in the military or law enforcement. However, I am a Freedom fighting firebrand of a writer!
Feel free to make a connection at my Patriotic Site!
“Not On My Watch!”
Reid Baer
Constitutionalist
#364…AnnSay…
Wha?…you a cuddy fer Treal!!!
Danner wearer besleave it
little d dan
Heres the truth as heard then and relevant today..This is why I still am on fire guard..i love that duty. no one bugs me and i’m the one buggin who’s outa line with pure 007 authority. Step up to Kennedy’s example people why do you think he was waxed?
Fire guard duty is all of our duties.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=kennedies+speach&hl=en&emb=0#
Danner
Dan
Please,
Did you hear that? Like where is this transperancy, from Oblunder? Member that all?
Let’s remember JFK and what he stood for and not be scared of consiquence in 321 of this video and on….. If Barry Soretoro had balls like this I would surround and face out from the WH and posture like a Honor Guard like the damn fools that stand outside the Queens Castle, but do it for free! Who need money or title when you have a man representing what you stand for!!! I wish i was alive and capable to see this man he was on point! Damn now I’m cryin I wish Michele was proud of this!
DcAmn Beezies!@!
Go surf and Catcha wave
Danner
Dan
P.S.
Where is the Media! That was his major point!!!@
No one can survive without it!!! Thank the Lord of Host’s for the net and freedom of it.
P.S.
Look up PS on Wikipedia….Narly! Skip da palistoopid doo doo dumb chap stick. I know some of this lip service need it too. Thank’s to all my cuddies.
T.I.P> Mac Dre
Hey, DKM! LSD, right? So, did the government slip it into your orange juice or did the aliens who abducted you shove it up your ass?
Typical Beezy,
What do you know about Lysergic acid diethylamide in liquid form? Disclosure of any further information would get me killed, and is TOP SECRET! Your life isn’t worth mine to tell you I would have to kill you. Yada Yada. Hint~Ey
E W~I~N~~~K. And your right only an illegal goverment would experiment on civilians more or less military personel. Watch your back..it’s good advice. BTW are you threatin me? Are you a doctor and wanna take my temperature? You must be from one of those weird countries that still do it that way huh? Try the ear method, it’s a hella lot more comfortable. Did you come up with aliens all on your own or was that something you thought was funny. Don’t look up when your in the ground, if i don’t see you midgets(aliens), i appologize. I’m just doo doo doin what i doo.
I could be so fortunate to have the government give me O.J. Do you get it for free? What’s with the gay love? I’m not familiar with abduction or ass love, to each their own. Thanks for a response, i feel the love now, i guess your one of those that is annamoured with my reterick.
Stoopid doo doo dumb
DKM
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=mac+dre+shrooms&hl=en&emb=0#
disclosure
Im only on legal scrips
for my root canal hydrocodon
for those interested why im lifted and ramblin
thanks for askin
Oh and im from the San Francisco Bay area and listen to my cuddy’s beats cause thats what’s up. You’ll get schooled from free speach with free speach. Listen and learn. Pay attention. Use your phonetics and you’ll get lifted to the conscience of bein a real believer of knowin what’s up. Thizz or Die.
T.I.P
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=mac+dre+shrooms&hl=en&emb=0#
It would appear this forum has been highjacked.
I am glad to find this organization. There are a number of police such as myself whom are startled by the erosion of society that has and is occurring. It truely has shifted from a society of self-responsibility to a society of entitlement. Let’s be clear, everyone is entitled to the guarantees of the Constitution, and you are responsible for everything else in your life. I will heed the call when raised, as will a multitude of my co-workers.
whoops scratch the ted speach…Gov’s disinfo..maybe I appologise..heres a better link..
I dislike ted and his cronies. Sorry wrong speach
JFK
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1710662559138481080&ei=lvDeSvqJDorOqALnvdXHCA&q=kennedies+speach&hl=en#
No wonder you think im being probed….haha
whoops scratch the ted speach…Gov’s disinfo..maybe I appologise..heres a better link..
I dislike ted and his cronies. Sorry wrong speach
JFK
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1710662559138481080&ei=lvDeSvqJDorOqALnvdXHCA&q=kennedies+speach&hl=en#
I reread the story of Gideon that i posted and it didn’t seem right…this is the one i remembered..it seems more correct about the men who lapped water like dogs and were the ones chosen by God. Who were to save Israel.
Judges 7
Once again the people of Israel sinned against the LORD, so He let the people of Midian rule them for seven years.
The Midianites were stronger than Israel and the people of Israel hid from them in caves and other safe places in the hills. Whenever the Israelites would plant their crops, the Midianites would come with the Amalekites and the desert tribes and attack them. They would camp on the land and destroy the crops as far south as the area around Gaza. They would take all the sheep, cattle, and donkeys, and leave nothing for the Israelites to live on. They would come with their livestock and tents, as thick as locusts. They and their camels were too many to count. They came and devastated the land, and Israel was helpless against them.
Then the people of Israel cried out to the LORD for help against the Midianites, and he sent them a prophet who brought them this message from the LORD, the God of Israel: “I brought you out of slavery in Egypt. I rescued you from the Egyptians and from the people who fought you here in this land. I drove them out as you advanced, and I gave you their land. I told you that I am the LORD your God and that you should not worship the gods of the Amorites, whose land you are now live in in. But you have not listened to me.
Then the LORD’s angel came to the village of Ophrah and sat under the oak tree that belonged to Joash, a man of the clan of Abiezer. His son Gideon was threshing some wheat secretly in a wine press, so that the Midianites would not see him.
The LORD’s angel appeared to him there and said, “The LORD is with you, brave and mighty man!” Gideon said to him, “If I may ask, sir, why has all this happened to us if the LORD is with us? What happened to all the wonderful things that our fathers told us the LORD used to do–how he brought them out of Egypt? The LORD has abandoned us and left us to the mercy of the Midianites.” Then the LORD ordered him, “Go with all your great strength and rescue Israel from the Midianites. I myself am sending you.” Gideon replied. “But Lord, how can I rescue Israel? My clan is the weakest in the tribe of Manasseh, and I am the least important member of my family.”
The LORD answered, “You can do it because I will help you. You will crush the Midianites as easily as if they were only one man.” Gideon replied, “If you are pleased with me, give me some proof that you are really the LORD. Please do not leave until I bring you an offering of food.” He said, “I will stay until you come back.”
So Gideon went into his house and cooked a young goat and used a bushel of flour to make bread without any yeast. He put the meat in a basket and the broth in a pot, brought them to the LORD’s angel under the oak tree, and gave them to him, The angel told him, “Put the meat and the bread on this rock, and pour the broth over them.” Gideon did so. Then the LORD’s angel reached out and touched the meat and the bread with the end of the rock and burned up the meat and the bead. Then the angel disappeared.
Gideon then realized that it was the LORD’s angel he had seen, and he said in terror, “Sovereign LORD! I have seen your angel face-to-face!” but the LORD told him, “peace. Don’t be afraid. You will not die.” Gideon built an altar to the LORD there and named it. “The LORD is Peace.” (It is still standing at Ophrah, which belongs to the clan of Abiezer.)
That night the LORD told Gideon, “Take your father’s bull and another bull seven years old, tear down your father’s altar to Baal, and cut down the symbol of the goddess Asherah, which is beside it. Build a well-constructed altar to the LORD your God on top of this mound. Then take the second bull and burin it whole as an offering, using for firewood the symbol of Asherah you have cut down.” So Gideon took ten of this servants and did what the LORD had told him. He was too afraid of his family and the people in town to do it by day, so he did it at night.
When the people in town got up early the next morning, they found that the altar to Baal and the symbol of Asherah had been cut down, and that the second bull had been burned on the altar that had been built there.
They asked each other, “Who did this?” They investigated and found out that Gideon son of Joash had done it. Then they said to Joash, “Bring your son out here, so that we can kill him! He tore down the altar to Baal and cut down the symbol of Asherah beside it.” But Joash said to all those who confronted him, “Are you arguing for Baal? Are you defending him? Anyone who argues for him will be killed before morning. If Baal is a god, let him defend himself. It is his altar that was torn down.”
From then on Gideon was know as Jerubbaal, because Joash said, “Let Baal defend himself; it is his altar that was torn down.” Then all the Midianites, the Amalekites, and the desert tribes assembled, crossed the Jordan River, and camped in Jezreel Valley. The spirit of the LORD took control of Gideon, and he blew a trumpet to call the men of the clan of Abiezer to follow him. He sent messengers throughout the territory of both parts of Manasseh to call them to follow him. He sent messengers to the tribes of Asher, Zebulun, and Naphtali, and they also came to join him.
Then Gideon said to God, “You say that you have decided to use me to rescue Israel. Well, I am putting some wool on the ground where we thresh the wheat. If in the morning there is dew only on the wool but not on the ground, then I will know that you are going to use me to rescue Israel.” That is exactly what happened. When Gideon got up early the next morning, he squeezed the wool and wrung enough dew out of it to fill a bowl with water. Then Gideon said to God, “Don’t be angry with me; let me speak just once more. Please let me make one more test with the wool. This time let the wool be dry, and the ground be we.” That night God did that very thing. The next morning the wool was dry, but the ground was wet with dew.
One day Gideon and all his men got up early and camped beside Harod Spring. The Midianite camp was in the valley to the north of them by Moreh Hill The LORD said Gideon, “The men you have are too many for me to give them victory over the Midianites. They might think that they had won by themselves, and so give me no credit. Announce to the people, “Anyone who is afraid should go back home, and we will stay here at Mount Gilead.’ ” So twenty-two thousand went back, but ten thousand stayed.
Then the LORD said to Gideon, “You still have too many men. Take them down to the water, and I will separate them for you there. If I tell you a man should go with you, he will go. If I tell you a man should not go with you, he will not go.” Gideon took the men down to the water, and the LORD told him, “Separate everyone who laps up the water with his tongue like a dog, from everyone who gets down on his knees to drink.” There were three hundred men who scooped up water in their hands and lapped it; all the others got down on their knees to drink. The LORD said to Gideon, “I will rescue you and give you victory over the Midianites with the three hundred men who lapped the water. Tell everyone else to go home. So Gideon sent all the Israelites home, except the three hundred, who kept all the supplies and trumpets.
The Midianite camp was below them in the valley. That night the LORD commanded Gideon, “Get up and attack the camp; I am giving you victory over it. But if you are afraid to attack go down to the camp with your servant Purah. You will hear what they are saying and then you will have the courage to attack.” So Gideon and his servant Purah went down to the edge of the enemy camp. The Midianites, the Amalekites, and the desert tribesman were spread out in the valley like a swarm of locusts, and they had as many camels as there are grains of sand on the seashore.
When Gideon arrived, he heard a man telling a friend about a dream. he was saying, “I dreamed that a loaf of barley bread rolled into our camp and hit a tent. The tent collapsed and lay flat on the ground.” His friend replied, “It’s the sword of the Israelite, Gideon son of Joash! It can’t mean anything else! God has given him victory over Midian and our whole army!” When Gideon heard about the man’s dream and what it meant, he fell to his knees. Then he went back to the Israelite camp and said, “Get up! The LORD is giving you victory over the Midianite army!”
He divided his three hundred men into three groups and gave each man a trumpet and a jar with a torch inside it. He told them, “When I get to the edge of the camp, watch me, and do what I do. When my group and I blow our trumpets, then you blow yours all around the camp and shout, ‘For the LORD and for Gideon!’
Gideon and his one hundred men came to the edge of the camp a while before midnight, just after the guard had been changed. Then they blew the trumpets and broke the jars they were holding, and the other two groups did the same. They all held the torches in their left hands, the trumpets in their right, and shouted,
“A sword for the LORD and for Gideon!”
Every man stood in his place around the camp, and the whole enemy army ran away yelling. While Gideon’s men were blowing their trumpets, the LORD made the enemy troops attack each other with their swords. They ran toward Zarethan as far as Beth Shittah, as far as the town of Abel Meholah near Tabbath. Then men from the tribes of Naphtali, Asher, and both parts of Manasseh were called out, and they pursed the Midianites.
Gideon sent messengers through all the hill country of Ephraim to say, “Come down and fight the Midianites. Hold the Jordan River and the streams as far as Bethbarah, to keep the Midianites from crossing them.” The men of Ephraim were called together, and they held the Jordan River and the stream as far as Bethbarah, They captured the two Midianite chiefs, Oreb and Zeeb; they killed Oreb at Oreb Rock, and Zeeb at the Winepress of Zeeb. They continued to pursue the Midianites and brought the heads of Oreb and Zeeb to Gideon, who was now east of the Jordan.
The moral of this story is that God was the victor not the men.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZk7-1uGmc4
Most of the posters on this site seem delusional (at best) and appear to be preparing for an illusory threat that will never actually materialize.
Tyranny is not on the horizon and the federal government is not your enemy. Bad policies and distorted worldviews are doing far more harm to America that any branch of local, state or federal government.
Wake up from your nonsense,
MZ
I have just one observation. If the Obama (or any) administration finds they have cause to suspect or oppose Oath Keepers, is that a de facto admission on their part that they INTEND to issue unlawful, un-Constitutional orders? I’m just wondering.
I worked a short time as a civilian engineer for the F/A-18 project 25 years ago and my Dad is an Army veteran. Most importantly, as an American, I ask that God bless you and your organization. Though not an armed warrior, I stand ready to defend the Constitution and it’s subordinate documents. I pray the protection and wisdom of our supra-ordinate, our mighty God in heaven.
I’m 78 yrs young, Korean Vet, and will be there when the bugle sounds. Best of luck! God Bless America
Go rotate on it you lunatics!
Where do we pick up our tin foil hats???
You fat heads couldn’t organize a scrap-booking contest!
Here’s an “oath” for ya:
“I am a big, fat, stupid loser with NO brains and NO future.” HA! Why don’t you put your guns to your heads and squirt metal? Do us all a favor by painting the wall with the contents of your empty skulls!!!
I don’t get the purpose of this Oathkeepers organization.
It seems redundant. Active Duty military have already pledged their allegiance to the constitution by taking whichever versions of the military oath.
Is this organization just for wanna-be’s and has-been’s to feel important? or is it intended to recruit active duty to operate with a suspicious bent to every order they’re issued?
[...] they don’t like Barack Obama, their commander in chief). They’ve drafted a list of ten hypothetical orders they won’t obey, one of which I find very interesting: We will NOT obey any order to conduct warrantless searches [...]
[...] first blush, who can object to the 10 orders they say they will not obey. Until you start examining each of them in detail (we’ll put aside for now the mindboggling [...]
Robert the Robot is going to have an awful lot of messes to clean up!
What’s a Beezy, anyway?
Funny that this organization sprung up just after Obama took office. Where were these “Oath Keepers” when the Bush administration
- Pushed for the creation of the Patriot Act
- Implemented the most extensive system of warrantless wiretaps
- Created the detention camp at Guantanamo Bay
- Invented the power to declare anyone an enemy combatant?
I don’t remember the founders of the group ever encouraging people to resist Bush’s unconstitutional orders… Yet the moment a Democrat gets sworn in as president, the republic is in dire danger? Please!
Former moderate and defender of reality, Charles Johnson , has gone berserk on Oath Keepers:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/34937_Oath_Keepers-_Very_Bad_Craziness
Looks like the liberals in denial found this comment site.
Funny how they blame Bush when the current economic calamity started with Carter signing the Community Reinvestment Act and the downfall of the mortgage and banking industry. Oh did we forget guys like Obama were literally suing banks for not making loans to people who could not afford them ????
Liberals in denial. Oh and I bet nobody was paying attention to several of the steps Republicans were trying to take to stop the mortgage crisis – yes they are documented.
Liberals in denial – we have CZARS – hello ???
We have SELF PROCLAIMED COMMUNISTS in the White House. We have a Radical president.
The evidence is overwhelming and it is documented and it is right in front of your noses but of course you are in denial.
And don’t let facts or history get in the way of your warped opinions – you know Mao, Hitler, Stalin etc…
Oh don’t let it bother you that the White House is waging war on anybody who disagrees with them.
Why don’t you guys move to Cuba or Venezuela cause you are not getting our country.
It’s always easy for the left to shriek “radical!!” when someone is actually ready to take up arms in defense of home or country. Yet, it was radicals in April of 1775 that did just that against a tyrannical oppression. The problem with this oppression now, is that it is subtle. It is numbing in it’s inexorable crawl towards fascism. By the time the mushy Centrists, let alone the liberal left gets it, it will be far too late. And yes, it is true, there was a true communist in the white house. Yet the leftstream media (the 4th branch of government now) has successfuly blunted any criticism by first yawning and then burying that story.
I don’t understand the purpose of all this saber-rattling; it seems very sensationalistic. Why is our democracy in danger? Why will there be a revolution!? When will it occur!!? Who are these enemies!!!? If you could please add to this site concrete information that explains what the problem with the status quo is and what the oath keepers intend to do about it, people like me would better understand whether we support this movement.
Many of the ten orders seem to me very improbable: the examples offered to raise concern are either from two hundred years ago or from circumstances in other countries.
One useful example was the reference to H.R. 45 in the first order. Could you please include more concrete examples such as that one?
“We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty” could suggest insubordination in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, because these entities were states (political definition) asserting their sovereignty.
Towards a more perfect union, -Carl
My question is this- what does the organization feel about searches incident to arrest and disarming convicted felons?
So you’re fringe lunatics. Either mainstream political party has its own half of the Constitution it wants to dismantle. Those are the two possibilities you must choose from if you want to hold a “reasonable” political ideology. Anyone who wants to keep the entire Constitution intact, therefore, is a fringe lunatic, like myself.
Where do I sign?
Btw yeah good point…where WERE you guys during the Bush administration? It would be extremely helpful if you would clarify this early on instead of wording your introductions in a way that seems to call for a new Revolution.
VIVA REVOLUTION! Time to overthrow the oppressive government in Washington! Down with the parasitic USA government! Vote these impotent fools out in 2010 and the remainder in 2012!
i am very heartened to see this website. i wondered many times (in the last 15 years especially) when we would wake to find that some group of true statesmen\generals\leaders had surrounded that cesspool on the potomac with tanks (with their guns pointed in) and had told the traitors in that cesspool their time was up. i know now that not all of the soldiers and policemen will kill us. i pray that we never have to find out. maybe just knowing that you are out there and that you will be sheltered, protected, fed, clothed, armed, and aided by the whatever patriots are left in this land we love will be enough for them to get the message
I would like to just say that Scared Of Right Wing Kooks in DC may be someone in the government. I believe it is an unwise decision to use your real names. That will only make it easier for this administration and their goons and followers to find you. By the way I am thankful that I found this site and know that there are so many willing to stand up for this country, its laws and its constitution. God bless all of you and God Bless America.
[...] [...]
Jeez, we coulda used you people under Bush’s rule when some of these things you fear so much were actually happening or could have happened. Why now? You might actually have a bit of credibility if you did that, but alas, you sound like more Rightwing Kooks Fellating Their Guns Who are Afraid of the Black President with the Funny Name. Funny hearing you whine about “communists”. That’s so 1960’s, people. Grow up. Nobody’s gonna come take your peashooters away.
I have never been in the military . But, I am proud to be an American and I am proud of our founding fathers . It is our constitution that keeps us free . And our willingness to defend it at all cost .
As an American citizen I take the oath today to defend our great nation from enemies both foreign and domestic ! I join you if you allow me . Proud to fight beside you .
Documented abuse of power, not only represents attitudes that people in power have about the laws of this country, but reflects poorly of the leadership. subordinate’s have been only reflecting what their leadership’s attitudes are about the oaths taken and consider themselves immune. This is not only unconstitutional, but flagerantly abusive. We need to have more Antidisestablishmentarianism, without God there can be no justice. Here are many examples.
Article 1
Weapons confiscation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5PC7z79-8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_1ushPq1xg&feature=related
Invasion of the individual
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgcZUIc3oks&feature=related
Abuse of power and illegal military institutions war for profit, where does that end?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuBKmPQlJ-M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUzrV0lJ-0A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB-lXJVqGUc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZX1odzHdAo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdkA5H8bHfk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-7dEfIkI4I&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wNVzZNkKtM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-6ZZbIq9E8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DpRz4CvMqo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrZYlFdvFGw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJBZSzIh5Fo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S3q3HbhcRM&feature=PlayList&p=7AFA427369EA7D68&index=8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlXbUatPc-A&feature=PlayList&p=7AFA427369EA7D68&index=9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6hgWK5CA4o&feature=PlayList&p=7AFA427369EA7D68&index=12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AaSLERx0VM&feature=PlayList&p=7AFA427369EA7D68&index=14
Are you a racist?
http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=video&video-id=2592
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsuRCXiYGO4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70onHcye6_U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VIBEvDHVP4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEatWynrV_k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNdo48V_tSs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W53k7uHh_t4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtkuqf1w2Gc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS3-dFEeWHM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYCqZX1yduY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJkLd-2cXuc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elHrDCZ2pOM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp5837FiUdI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JemH2_CIekY&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gAWRcOYUtY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkbouqyeHRY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CELZSD1ijWE&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CEFAifA1vY&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp9WIz_PYl8&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD6AefB0uG8&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF45nb3BS_k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mrkFGG5uOo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99YbBQM72Xg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uGQoNOZSRQ&feature=channel
And now for something sexy! Intelligence is going to get you hot for words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIoxMoCyHCM&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv2_rSCnBQQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrZKK7fOGmw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlOUXWQP-KM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xc-wswXEGM&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrZYlFdvFGw&feature=related
This should give you guys something to chew on for a while, some of you are still teething, and that’s right i said it teething.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Qx0cTze0M&feature=related
FEMA a Disaster for Freedom of the Press
Katrina victims ‘not allowed’ to talk to media, reporter told
7/21/06
(NOTE: Please see the Activism Update regarding this alert.)
The Federal Emergency Management Agency prohibits journalists from having unsupervised interviews with Hurricane Katrina victims who have been relocated to FEMA trailer parks, according to a report in the Baton Rouge Advocate (7/15/06).
“If a resident invites the media to the trailer, they have to be escorted by a FEMA representative who sits in on the interview,” FEMA spokesperson Rachel Rodi is quoted in the article. “That’s just a policy.”
The Advocate report, by reporter Sandy Davis, describes two separate attempts to talk to people displaced by Katrina that were halted by the intervention of a FEMA security guard. In the first incident, in a Morgan City, Louisiana camp, an interview was interrupted by a guard who claimed that residents of the camp are “not allowed” to talk to the media.
Dekotha Devall, whose New Orleans home was destroyed by the storm, was in her FEMA-provided trailer telling the Advocate reporter of the hardships of life in the camp when a security guard knocked on the door.
“You are not allowed to be here,” the guard is quoted as telling the reporter. “Get out right now.” The guard reportedly called police to force the journalist to leave the camp, and even prevented the reporter from giving the interview subject a business card. “You will not give her a business card,” the guard said. “She’s not allowed to have that.”
Later, at another FEMA camp in Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana, the reporter attempted to talk to camp resident Pansy Ardeneaux through a chain link fence when the same guard halted the interview. “You are not allowed to talk to these people,” the guard told Ardeneaux. “Return to your trailer now.” The reporter said she and an accompanying photographer were “ordered…not to talk to anyone or take pictures.”
Earlier, an interview with displaced Katrina victims by Amy Goodman of Democracy Now! (4/24/06) was halted by FEMA security guards. Tape-recording the accounts of residents of the FEMA-run Renaissance Village camp outside Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Goodman was approached by FEMA-hired security guards from Corporate Security Solutions who told her to “turn it off.” When Goodman explained that the resident had asked to be interviewed, she was told, “He can’t. That’s not his privilege.”
At first, the resident talking to Goodman was told by the guard, “You can go get interviewed as long as it’s off post.” But when the resident offered to continue the interview outside the camp, the guard said, “Yes, you can be interviewed… if they had a FEMA representative with them, but since they don’t and do not have an appointment….” Interviews are allowed to proceed, the guard noted, when “they have the FEMA public relations officer with them.”
In concluding the segment on her visit to the camp, Goodman reported, “As we drove off of Renaissance Village, we were chased by the guards in golf carts, who said they would be taking down our license plate and that we couldn’t return.”
Restrictions on the right of citizens to speak freely to the press without government supervision are a clear violation of the 1st Amendment. “They cannot deny media access,” Gregg Leslie, the legal defense director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, told the Advocate, saying that FEMA’s restrictions were “clearly unconstitutional … and definitely not legal.” Referring to the requirement that interview subjects have a FEMA escort, Leslie said, “That’s a standard for a prison, not a relief park and a temporary shelter.”
Timothy Matte, the mayor of Morgan City, expressed surprise that FEMA was enforcing limits on the free speech of disaster victims. “You would think the people would have the same freedom there as everyone else has,” he said.
ACTION: FEMA’s website urges citizens to report “allegations of civil liberties or civil rights abuses” to the Department of Homeland Security’s inspector general, who is Richard L. Skinner.
CONTACT:
Inspector General Richard L. Skinner
Department of Homeland Security
Washington, DC 20528
E-mail: DHSOIGHOTLINE@dhs.gov
See Baton Rouge Advocate: “Hundreds of FEMA Trailers Stand Empty” (7/15/06) by Sandy Davis
See Democracy Now!: “FEMA’s Dirty Little Secret: A Rare Look Inside the Renaissance Village Trailer Park, Home to Over 2,000 Hurricane Katrina Evacuees” (4/24/06) by Amy Goodman
Corrected version: June 22, 2006
See FAIR’s Archives for more on:
Civil Liberties
Censorship
To annonymous #@391
We are here have been will be and always no matter who’s in POTUS chair. Watch and learn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X_0U6Z0eCc&feature=channel
Another example that the media is a lapdog to the government, and another reason why people are just starting to wake up and realize just what the hell is going on. Don’t start commin down on people who are starting to organize in the name of truth and push the ideal that we must be rasict because we have a black man in office. You just think that way because your programed to from watchin the boob toob. Do some more of your internet vetting and your find the truth, rather than being a lazy slob and jumping to conclusions that would suit your frame of mind allowing the “media” to do your thinking for you. Welcome to the twenty first century.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9dhkDhyW8g&feature=related
It took me several days once I heard about this website before I looked at it. I had to convince myself that I felt that my fears are justified and the world that I so wanted for my kids is vanishing before my very eyes.
In all takeovers of a civil society, the very first thing the oppressor accomplishes is to silence all political opposition by 100% controlling the media. Watching this Goverment attack a News organization (FOX) and target legitiment private companies is the first step towards a Totalitarian type total control. Every country in modern history who lost there freedoms first lost there right to free speach.
I believe in the Constitution and the rights of the people. We the people. Somewhere, somehow that phrase is now lost in todays clutter of Goverment intervention. I am not sure what can I change, however I am sure of never loosing my freedom by turning my back on my values. I did take a Oath and I believe in those words and I want Freedom for my children to never be threatend as it is today.
I am 50 years old and when I reflect on my life experiences and realize how much our society has evolved and changed into federally dominated, nationalistic driven ideological force which now holds contempt for a large portion of its population, I fear for my childrens future. I never could of imagined when I was 20 years old and in the USMC that America, my country would turn on its own. I believed that I stood for all that was right about Human Dignity and Freedom. Now I fear that the flood of indiference towards Liberty and the Freedom of what it means to be an American is under attack. The world that we built with all our labors is now no longer ours to control. We are soon to be dictated to in all regaurds what our personal behavior should be. The values of which we tried so hard to instill in our children shall be of little value for them unless this generation of Americans can bring together the momentum of the gathering dissatifaction towards the federal intervention which is now being unleashed upon us and restore America’s Goverment back to an institution which represents the people who installed it. God Helps us all, stay true to your moral beliefs, support the constitution and cause no harm to your neighboors or fellow Americans.
Astonishing. A group of illiterate, amateur constitutional scholars with guns and a power trip. Good luck at your courts martial.
Never forget!
That’s been the motto since 911.
To 411,
It amazes me that someone who’s ego is as large as yours, really has nothing more to say other than to berate others, who fears are very well justified. Then try to instill fear in the hearts of men that loosing rank, their jobs, or even their lives, to stand up and be accountable for their actions at the behest of orders. Orders that are illegal, immoral, evil and unhuman. Why is it that one should or would have to be a scholar to understand the constitution and what it stands for it written in plain language. Grant it as it’s been rewriten from it’s original form, it still stands for alot more ideal than you can seem to muster. I’m astonished on what kind of power trip your on. I’m wondering who you are as well. You kinda remind me of someone that would just do whatever your told and laugh about it later with your cronies knowing you got over on something. If you wanted to help to try to persuade others to see your point of veiw why would you attack them? Your one of those bully kinda people huh? Through out history you know what happens to those people don’t you. I’d be very carefull not to upset others who are tired of that very thing you represnt yourself to be. Read some history books, it’s not pretty what goes down with people that have attitudes like yours. Other than that all i heard was.>>>>>>>blah blah…bigmouth idiot go back to your regularly programed brainwashing.
Oh and your intellectually inept to conceive of thinking for yourself and free thought, more or less the idea of freedom or being free.
Let us know how that works out for you lepton.
Your tax dollars hard at work.
Operation Northwoods
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/northwoods.html
And for like #411 who are inept and have little retension.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI6RLXQyGIw&feature=related
C’est vraiment de ta faute! D?verminage enfer! Enculer une mouche. P?tasse. Casse toi! Connard.
Hey I looked into Oath Keepers because I am a Desert Shield/Storm Veteran and it looked good till I went to see about joining or donating and it said that I would be redirected to PayPal as a payment option. PayPal is as anti gun as you can get. I found that out from selling gun parts on Ebay. Anti gun = anti 2nd Amendment in my opinion. Perhaps Oath Keepers are unaware of PayPals stand on Guns and the 2ND Amendment. Just a example of how PayPal works. If you use PayPal in a firearm purchase or for purchasing certain firearm related products and they find out they will lock up your account and hold the funds in the account until they see fit to release them. I might consider joining if they drop PayPal however I am still available to Uphold the Constitution from Enemies Foreign and Domestic if and when the time comes.
Local diversity
God bless America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A0SQeVOMMI
Martial Law idle talk?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgMx2F41XD0&feature=related
Is your can do no wrong messiah really the antichrist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQoV_Ngl-G8&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Do people really worship this man? One who fought so hard to kill late term babies who were alive?
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRP3kAASxVo&feature=related
2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL871CVn4TA&feature=related
More brainwashing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gzyeo1Z1I4&feature=related
More impressionable minds being raised as soldiers
Here are your toy solders(for those who love to coin that term)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgHm2jd5X1I&feature=fvw
How were the constitution-lovin’, treason-shoutin’ Southern patriots who distributed this flyer in Dallas in 1963 any different from you lunatics? (Substitute “Obama” for “Kennedy” and it’s largely the same crap you’re selling.)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Wanted_for_treason.jpg
Comply or else off goes any type of proof to have any recourse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLMRLdcfvHI&feature=PlayList&p=7AFA427369EA7D68&index=15&playnext=6&playnext_from=PL
I support what you’re doing here 110%. I was never in the military, but my Dad fought in the Pacific in WWII. I’m glad he’s gone now, and can’t see what is happening to the country he loved and was willing to give his life for. I think what you’re doing is very important, since the military and police forces will be expected to enforce martial law on this country, when it comes, and I think it is not far off. Some pretext will be used to declare it, I’m sure, like the “Swine Flu” pandemic, a “terrorist attack, “economic collapse,” or “natural disaster.” Then when we resist martial law, many of our fellow Americans will condemn us for “endangering the nation,” and for being “insurrectionists.” Others will stand with us. Things will escalate from there very quickly. Since I don’t have military experience, I expect to last about five minutes in combat, but I intend to make those five minutes count. They will be the best minutes I have ever lived.
Bravo!
I like this bold, yet passive stance.
In response to #423
My you sound like someone who like’s to incite trouble to give you reason to justify your actions. First not once did I read or have heard of anything resembling JFK or evidence tied to his or any plot ot assasinate POTUS. Again with character attacks, calling us “lunatics”, is that your clinical surmation? What do you know of phychoanalytical deduction? Seems like you have a preconceived notion about who or what we stand for, that you must have read from someone elses opinion. You used “were” as in past tense, instead of “are”. As though we were there and handed out these flyers. Your lack of knowledge of history surrounding this Wanted poster is funny. Let me inform you that frankly I’ve never seen one done of Oblungler, yet. And after reading the Warren report, I’m stumped that for some reason, you are still stuck on stupid. Like as if the removal of any President would change congress or the illegal activities of other very powerfull oraganizations that have entrenched themselves in our society. I can assume that your hatred for the last OPUS and love of this one you problably thought that way about Bush. But now you have a “change” man in the office. Anyone advocating real change in our goverment and people in authority to do so by thier bound duty to an Oath is a “lunatic”. You can’t seem to look past your own nose enough to get the bigger picture. Kinda like when I spoke to a young infantry soldier out on leave after A.I.T. Who was planning to request where he would like to be stationed. I suggested he go to Hawaii, wouldn’t you? His response was supprisingly shocking to me. His desire was to go to Russia, according to him. His “idol” was a Russian sniper and he was told that the Russians had the best sniper training in the world…Boy alot has changed from the days when I was chanting kill a commy for mommy. I sorta just was like well whatever floats your boat, and gave hime some advice on what boots he should buy. Then left it at that. Which is where I’m going with you.
Debile
#423
I put some more thought into why you dislike southerners. You must be locating in New York or near there abouts. And some of the things you say come right out of where the CPUSA is headquartered. They must be doing a good job in your parts. It’s gotta be hard with so much peer presure going on there and the dribble you have to contend with to focus on real issues. Thier tactics haven’t changed. I wish you northerners could have better people to discern from in your choice to lead you instead of recycling the very people that keep doing harm to this country, in the name of “it’s in your best interest”. God did say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I pray ya’ll can see that somethings in life not earned aren’t worth havin.
More criminals helping criminals, soon we will all be criminals or slaves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZNjHBXo-Fw&feature=related
Then on the reverse coin….I want to be fair and balanced…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDCzg9PiwNc&NR=1&feature=fvwp
I always take Jones’ information witha grain of salt. Although his investigative journalism has a conspiritorial tone, it goes to show that things that have and are happening have ten time the credibility of truth, than simplistic lies ment to decive those who are simple minded. More abuse of power. Looks like theres more to this than meets the eye and people in authority have hidden agenda’s. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca-8V4wiWnQ&feature=related
Some people just aren’t cut from the same cloth even is they make the cut, the clothes don’t make the man. This is a great example of what power can do to ones head. Just because you have power doesn’t give you the right to be repected. Another example of why only the cream rises to the top, and curds are just curds.
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Wow, you guys must have had a real problem with Bush, then. Especially 2, 3, 4, 9 and 10, those are kind of his thing.
I am a Christian, I served in the USMC for 11 years and fought in two wars, I am also a Fire Fighter / Paramedic and I am a Police Officer, and I support the Oath Keepers.
If you read the previous posts from the Bible you will see we are there once again.
We have let the progressives/liberals take God from our country and God is letting the modern day Medianites run rough shod over us.
When we put God first he will help us rise up against those that do not believe.
I find it strange you seem compelled to take an oath twice. If you served in the military like I did, you already raised your right hand and took the oath. No one is coming to knock on your door and take your guns away. Nor is anyone turning cities into concentration camps. Have fun at your secret lodge meetings.
Chimpy Bush did warrantless “snoop and poop” searches.
Chimpy Bush made it much easier to declare martial law.
Chimpy Bush’s regime ordered the detention of 2 US citizens without due process. Yusef Hamdi and Jose Padilla were locked up for years before they got a court hearing. By the BUSH Regime.
Conservatives on the West Coast were behind the illegal internment of Japanese Americans in 1942. They tricked FDR into signing the order.
You’re a bunch of Reich Wing hypocrites. YOUR side has done this. And I’d bet the farm you will NEVER EVER criticize your beloved fearless leader Chimpy Dubya Bush for breaking at least three of these rules of yours.
Chimpy didn’t do this alone. How many of you Oath Keepers were on duty at the Navy brig where they kept Padilla? How many of you Oath Keepers were on the FBI teams that did “snoop and poop” warrantless searches??
Hypocrites. You need to clean your own house.
I fought in Iraq, and served in the Army for 8 years. I swore an oath that I still live today even after being out for 3 years. It’s sad that politicians seem to be the enemy now. The liberal left and it’s propaganda machine have convinced the weak that they have the answer. The funny part is that the people that want the freedom’s to do whatever their left-leaning minds think up are going to someday lose these freedom’s they seek because of the monster government they are backing. Wake up!
The politicians that do not support and defend the Constitution are clearly enemies of the Republic and should be jailed. Any organization (ACLU) that tries to smear the clear lines stated in the Constitution should be considered enemies as well.
I urge all of you to join Patriots for 9-11 Truth. Since the Oath is to protect “all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC”, it is time to expose the architects of 9-11: Cheney, Bush, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Rice, Feith,Powell, Mossad, AIPAC etc..9-11 was an inside job and exposing the evildoers would seem to be a mission for your group. I agree with much you say – who amongst you has the courage to stand up and demand a true investigation, with subpoena powers, of the biggest terrorist operation in the USA, that was masterminded by our own government? This should be the front line of your group, as it was all planned in advance so that the “Patriot Act” (which was written well before 9-11) could be justified. It is too bad that the CIA agents who tortured detainees did not join your group as then they may have had the courage to deny immoral orders.Never forget that the Nuremberg trials declared that Germany’s biggest crime was that of aggression i.e., invading another country that had done them no harm. So why do not the patriots in the military refuse to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan? If the trials were held today our country would be indicted for crimes of aggression and it all traces back to 9-11.
My Country Tis Of Thee
martha
It is ridiculous to suggest that our Govt. planned 9-11. The Patriot Act has kept you and Charlie Sheen safe. How can you live in a country that you hate so much? I’ll buy you a plane ticket to any country of your choosing where the govt. really is killing people and see how fast you want to get back here. People like you disgust me! Wake up before it’s too late. It’s not that far off. Promote the things that keep our country safe and start speaking out against the current enemies in Washington that only want to weaken it so they can push for internationalization. You want the UN making the rules for America? Maybe you do, but only because you don’t actually know what that means.
Let’s talk about real conspiracies instead of stupid theories:
How about Washington holding on to bailout money until next year before the elections. I’m sure you’ll see results then so they can show all the great success and try to hold their seats.
Americans are smarter than that. Hopefully the masses have learned from the huge mistake made in the last election. Washington is not listening to the American People any more. If you don’t like the system of government put in place by our founding fathers, then leave this country in search of one that fits your needs. This one works great without the liberal left trying to “fundamentally change” it.
Kyle, I will refrain from making derogatory statements about you and I will not question your patriotism as you did me – I will take the high road. You say I hate the US – Not true! It is because I am a patriot that I refuse to believe the lie that 19 guys with boxcutters diercted by some guy on dialysis in a cave defeated the most sophisticated military in the world. I don’t believe it because I have more faith in our military than you. Why did Cheney issue the standdown order? Why were Air Force interceptors not called in? Why were there no bodies of the so-called hijackers ever found? Why were there no boarding passes issued to the so-called hijackers? How did military grade nanothermite get into the ruins of WTC? Can you answer these questions? Patriots Question 9-11 can – you should educate yourself if you want to protect our country from fighting the Zionist war on terror.
Boxcutters are razor blades with handles, how can you suggest that they could not be used as weapons. We’re talking about 19 “guys” that trained to kill 24-7 so it’s consievable that they could learn you weild there boxcutters against unarmed passengers and the crew easily. They did not defeat the military on 9-11, they defeated the passengers and crewmambers on 4 planes. As far as the “guy on dialysis” well, he’s still alive and fighting his fight against the free world. There’s plenty of information about the Fighters that were called in and were tracking the 2 planes outside New York. Nanothermite is a conspiracy-theory only from what I’ve read. Chaney’s stand down order is not something I can say anything about because I have not read anything on this. I have plenty of faith in our military having served in the Army (Infantry) for 8 years.
Kyle – you have not answered my questions
The only one I did not answer is the one I have not read anything about. If Chaney issued a stand down order to the fighters that were tracking the second two planes I’m sure it was not in an effort to allow them to hit more targets.
This is the thing about conspiracy theories… they’ll always be out there because the American people thrive on controvercy. I guess the same terrorists that kill innocent people around the world are to be ignored in the liberal playbook. Maybe they’ll just get tired and go away. Defence of the constitution and this country should be on the top of the list for everyone, and al-qaeda is just a figment of our imagination. I’ve been there and I’ve seen the hatred in their eyes.
There is a war on terror, but I guess fighting this war on our own soil is the only thing that will wake people up. 9-11 was masterminded by osama bin laden, and there’s no way to suger-coat it and say he wasn’t. The country unified after 9-11 and now we’re back to being complacent. The attempted bombing of a building in Dallas was Chaney too? The attempted bombing recently in New York was Chaney too? These are directly related to al-qaeda, and once again people need to wake up.
To: Bill Hicks
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Don't you know that the only thing you accomplished with your partyline comments is to show how a duped individual follows his orders? You have no brain of your own to therefore I choose to treat you like a pest and step on it!!!
The GMAN
This is an organization for Americans and Americans who want to defend this country and its’ principals. Most of us feel strong enough to defend America’s principals with our lives. To all you anti-American nutcase, communist, brain dead liberals, go find your own site. Go spew your ignorant anti-American propaganda somewhere else,,,or come visit me in Texas and let me do something to you it’s obvious your Daddy never did to you and should have,,,,give up a spanking…Now get lost!!!!!
[...] as well as law enforcement, always fertile ground for fascist recruitment. Also troubling is the especially shrill pitch of their rhetoric. Again, their list of orders they won’t obey isn’t troubling… if you think that [...]
Reading this thread, I am both encouraged and sorely disappointed.
Encouraged because of the patriots who care and are voicing their views in a positive fashion.
Why am I disappointed? Too much clutter and sniping.
We all need, in this hour of peril, to keep up the highest standards of conduct. I suggest that we keep to positive posts and engage with a high degree of mutual respect.
Also, we have so much to do and so little time, let us not waste our efforts.
Many of us are military or former military – let us set an example by discipline and military bearing. The kind of qualities that are desperately needed today.
My two cents…
Boone
I am a police cadet so would I be considered a peace officer or a citizen? I am only a volunteer but im also supposed to follow orders.
After reading these posts I have concluded that many of our domestic enemies of the constitution are not just politicians. There are many sympathizers that will also have to be dealt with. I pray that reason will prevail.
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I wanted to send you a donation via Paypal, but your Paypal button isn’t set up properly. When I click on it, it merely takes me to the Paypal site without the payment and payee being already set up. You are losing a lot of potential donations by not setting this button up properly. I’ll be glad to make a donation when you get your Paypal link set up properly, so that when you click on it, it takes you to a page in Paypal with the payee (you) already filled out. I’m hoping you’ll take the time now to make this donation link a better one, for your organization’s benefit. Please let me know when it’s been done.
I”m realy getting worried now, the Dems. have closed the doors to the Repubs. yet again for a senate meeting. What happened to the multi party system in this congress? where is the debate? (better yet where is the republican party?) If this isn’t a form of dictatorship I don’t know what is.. Is this what the Dems deem as “all inclusive” where is the outrage? why are they not (theRepublican party and Independant members of congress) kicking the doors down and demanding to be in on these meetings? Do we have any doctors here in O.K.? these repubs. need a spine transplant.. ARRRRRRRGGGGG. this is just too much to bear. Please write to your sen. and reps. and let them know how you feel about this. GOD bless America.. Big Mike
Kyle
There are co-conspirators in our government that assisted in bringing about 9/11 and have not yet been brought to justice. Go to
journalof911studies.com
It is all there from experts in the fields of engineering, physics and all others. Read about the incendiary nanothermite, ground shake before tower collapse, sudden collapse initiation impossible and other field expert documents.
Boone
Take your political correctness and shove it. That is one of the things that has been killing our Republic, and continues to.
Thank you for publishing this stand for FREEDOM. I stand with you. Politicians have taken this country in a very dangerous direction and this must be reversed if we truly want to be the nation of our founders.
Any activity inside the building (secondary explosions, initial structural failures, etc…) would register on the ultra sensative seismic equipment. Events were happening inside the building before the visible collapse. I don’t buy into this “theory” and true Patriots don’t either. True Patriots understand that there are enemies of this country inside and out. The furthering of our way of life in America is what Patriots want and the “fundamental change” towards a socialist/marxist/communist style of government is what the enemies (in the current administration) want.
Tell me why the more liberal/godless this country becomes the worse things get. We need to revert to the time when people were proud to be Americans and proud to say “One Nation Under God”. The other direction will lead us into a darkness that will even scare the liberals.
Our government needs a good house cleaning. One of the things I see that the public is misguided on is all the focus on Presidential elections instead of the importance of their REPRESENTATIVES. In theory the President represents no one. He is supposed to be the Administer of the bills and laws our REPRESENTATIVES pass. If more attention was paid to the representatives we send up there, the presidental camphagin would only need to last about 1 day. We have allowed the media, education system and politians take our eyes off where the real power of the people reside; in their REPRESENTATIVES. If WE would clean house and then demand that we be REPRESENTED instead of patted on the head and ignored, we can get our country in order. Until then, we can expect to see a continueounce of the abuse of power and the use of puppets in our government. CLEAN OUT EVERY CONGRESSMAN AND SENATOR and then see if we didn’t get the “governments” attention.
Oathkeepers, just thought I’d let you know that you’re suggesting mutiny.
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894. ART. 94. MUTINY OR SEDITION
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who–
(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
(2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
(3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
(b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
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I hope you have good representation for your court marshal
Lawkeeper, you sound like a modern day King George! Upholding the Constitution is not mutiny, it is upholding the highest law in the land, a law that usurps any common man’s law! Only God’s law supercedes man’s law sir!
The voice of the radio pundit admonished “If you [opponents of liberalism] want to play with automatic weapons, then you need to join the military and they’ll teach you how to use them!”
Sir, the military alredy did teach us how to use them, and when. The freedom of our critics to lecture us the way you do, is what we are pledging our lives to defend.
We’re not ’starting a revolution,’ we are continuing one that began 233 years ago. We are fighting a socialist revolution that has condemned millions of people around the world to unspeakable poverty and suffering.
Invest in gold if you wish, you’ll profit, and your children will become slaves. I’ll invest in lead, and my children will be free.
I’m just saying if you’re active duty and not just a wanna be, you’re risking a court martial for your actions.
Just a FYI.
Joining an organization like this should be weighed independent of political emotion because it’s not a trivial thing to disobey orders and no one should allow themselves to be talked into it.
Sir, I am no wannabe, I served my time in the Corps and I take my Oath VERY seriously! You are right about one thing though, this is no trivial thing and this is NO game that is being played, we are doing this for REAL! Freedom is not Free sir it comes with a cost and we are prepared (if need be) to pay that price to keep our country (even you) free! ~ Pepsi ~
The oath is only applicable to active duty.
It’s nice that you still have a principaled stance toward it, but you are no longer bound by it.
You will receive no orders that you can disobey and therefore are at no personal risk by being affiliated with Oathkeepers.
What I ask is that you respect and acknowledge the personal risk associated with any active duty military who choose to be affiliated with Oathkeepers. If they do not follow orders, they go to a court martial and be subjected to the UCMJ….and unless it can be satisfactorily demonstrated that the orders they disobeyed were unlawful or out of line, they will be punished.
What you fail to understand is that the Oath to the Constitution supercedes the president’s orders, supercedes military law (if that law goes against Constitutional Law) and the oath I took was taken for life. Apparently, you have never served in the military (am I right?), if so you would know that oaths are not something that is “hung up” when you are discharged. I am sure if you stay on this posting for any length of time others will chime in to state the obvious. ~ Pepsi ~
However you feel about your oath is all well and good.
The reality is that while civilians are no longer subject to the UCMJ. Active duty are.
Not following orders is insubordination and a coordinated incident of insubordination (such as what is suggested by being an Oathkeeper member) is mutiny. At least those would be the charges at the court martial.
Always being under military jurisdication subjects you to UCMJ. But the interpretation of the law is done by those interpreting the law under the UCMJ. If our military is suddenly taken over by an enemy domestic (or foriegn) entity do you still believe that those enlisted should follow the orders given to them by that power? As a civilian who disobeys “lawful” orders of his country that has been taken over by a domestic (or foreign) enemy couldn’t some misinterpret that as traitorous???
By stating and joining a group of like individuals who also state that you will uphold your “Oath” to defend your country against enemies (foreign or domestic) is not a court martial offence (and is not traitorous) unless you are being tried under the regime of an enemy!
Count me in guys. You will be receiving donation as soon as I can get it out the door! I am a civilian (not for lack of trying, I was DQ’d at MEPS for a hernia. Was going for Marines.) and proud to be one. I fill gladly give my life for my country (I will of course fight like hell to keep myself alive haha, but if I have to make the sacrifice, I would with pride). My children WILL grow up to a free America.
Stand up, do not fear!
Frank M
Lawkeeper:
in 894. ART. 94. MUTINY OR SEDITION sec a. art. 1)
I feel you are overlooking a very important qualifier in the statement: “lawful military authority”. If said authority has already been ursurped by an enemy (foreign or domestic) they are, by the constitution, no longer a “lawful military authority” and those orders may be (and must be) dissobayed.
Stand up, do not fear!
Frank M
Good lord my spelling suck today… what I would give for an edit button!
Frank M
Good lord my spelling sucks today… what I would give for an edit button!
Frank M
RE: Frank M,
Translation: Obama is not a “lawful military authority, so it is my duty to not follow orders from my commander”….
All this nonsensical hypothetical bullshit seems to flows from that.
Would that be your defense in your court martial?
Lawkeeper,
You seem to want to miss the point, and want to scare people here. The refusal of an UNLAWFUL order would only happen in an extreme circumstance. Think worst case scenario. Not simply when some junior enlisted doesn’t want to deploy because he disagrees with the president. In those cases the fools get what they deserve. Each principle is carefully explained at the top of this page, so any reader can understand what’s at stake here.
The operative word in the UCMJ you cited is “lawful” so if a US Army (regular not Guard) infantryman is ordered to go house to house and force citizens to get inoculations against their will, is this not an example of what the Oath is all about? Posse Comitatus and the basic rights outlined in the Constitution that anyone can understand.
Blind adherence to orders in combat is crucial. Against one’s own countrymen is criminal. Someone worried about their own hide more than upholding their solemn oath is exactly how tyrants execute their will. Unquestioning lemmings is what dictators require, fighting that mentality is what this effort is all about.
I have no illusions that many of the career law enforcement officers at the Federal level will obey no matter what. They have few if any ties to the communities they will be sent into. Deliberately. They will almost never refuse orders, regardless of the insanity they may incur, because they need the paycheck or they won’t risk their career. Or hell, they actually believe in the tasks they may be assigned. Waco, Ruby Ridge and New Orleans all come to mind.
Local law enforcement is another thing entirely. I doubt these folks will dare perpetrate egregious acts against their neighbors for fear of their identities being known and retaliation against themselves, their family or their property. This is why the eventual collapse will witness an influx of Federal or even foreign personnel, military or otherwise.
Thus the Oath and educating folks about it, is so damn important! In the end people have to be smart. Use your head and if it looks like you’re REALLY being ordered to violate the Oath, fight it. Only risk your self if the circumstances require it. Are we talking a Katrina gun confiscation or the civil rights of a bunch of drug dealers who are threatening a food distribution truck?
Freedom is for everyone, but the intelligent are the ones who must defend it. Generally it’s those with foresight who prepare, and has thought out the consequences. Your heart will tell you what the right thing to do is. I have faith that as American’s and the people who take this oath, we’ll know what to do.
Socialism and progressive war has been in full swing against America for years now. This is conspiracy to overthrow the Constitution. All the left-wing sleepers are up and crawling out from under their rocks since obama became president. Giving amnesty to immigrants that broke the law will create an army of foreign invaders dependent on the government. These are acts of war.
Silent Ghost….. Activated !!!!
RIGHT ON, ERIK
by Lisa Guliani
The date is February 21, 1871 and the Forty-First Congress is in session. I refer you to the “Acts of the Forty-First Congress,” Section 34, Session III, chapters 61 and 62. On this date in the history of our nation, Congress passed an Act titled: “An Act To Provide A Government for the District of Columbia.” This is also known as the “Act of 1871.” What does this mean? Well, it means that Congress, under no constitutional authority to do so, created a separate form of government for the District of Columbia, which is a ten mile square parcel of land.
What??? How could they do that? Moreover, WHY would they do that? To explain, let’s look at the circumstances of those days. The Act of 1871 was passed at a vulnerable time in America. Our nation was essentially bankrupt — weakened and financially depleted in the aftermath of the Civil War. The Civil War itself was nothing more than a calculated “front” for some pretty fancy footwork by corporate backroom players. It was a strategic maneuver by European interests (the international bankers) who were intent upon gaining a stranglehold on the neck (and the coffers) of America.
The Congress realized our country was in dire financial straits, so they cut a deal with the international bankers — (in those days, the Rothschilds of London were dipping their fingers into everyone’s pie) thereby incurring a DEBT to said bankers. If we think about banks, we know they do not just lend us money out of the goodness of their hearts. A bank will not do anything for you unless it is entirely in their best interest to do so. There has to be some sort of collateral or some string attached which puts you and me (the borrower) into a subservient position. This was true back in 1871 as well. The conniving international bankers were not about to lend our floundering nation any money without some serious stipulations. So, they devised a brilliant way of getting their foot in the door of the United States (a prize they had coveted for some time, but had been unable to grasp thanks to our Founding Fathers, who despised them and held them in check), and thus, the Act of 1871 was passed.
In essence, this Act formed the corporation known as THE UNITED STATES. Note the capitalization, because it is important. This corporation, owned by foreign interests, moved right in and shoved the original “organic” version of the Constitution into a dusty corner. With the “Act of 1871,” our Constitution was defaced in the sense that the title was block-capitalized and the word “for” was changed to the word “of” in the title. The original Constitution drafted by the Founding Fathers, was written in this manner:
“The Constitution for the united states of America”.
Last post was in response to #459 aka Jack
In response to #460 mutany is revolt on a boat…
Treason is relegated to land…what congess has and is doing.
Plus we who are civilians can take an oath to uphold the Contitution for the United States do not recognise congress’s authority to create laws that would be illegal in the first place that is the difference. \\
To know the difference isn’t to just say oh cause you said so…is that right?
According to Lawkeeper..who must be some NCIS. Lawyer.<<>>simular to all lawyers who are brain dead an only out for the plush accomodations given them from the blood spilt of civilians and gentry alike. They fight to establish laws that are illegal and fight for them and the cause of law never questioning or seeing the wrong. Just that it is, is sufficiant. Obama’s a lawyer that’s why i never trusted him, more or less that he’s a Chicago one….GO BEARS!@! DA BEARS!! Subject one who will quote you verbatem the lexicon of legal ese and stand by it will never question whether that wich is written is legal, only that that is written.
[...] guys, using their platform as the ultimate means of appraisal. Indeed, the constant recourse to the “Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey”- as if this stood outside of a broader social context, and their framing was without meaning- is [...]
This sounds all well and good, if you do not obey the orders you will be relieved of duty, court-martialed, and thrown out of whatever service you are in. There is not enough of you to make a difference or to stop the gov (military, police, FBI, INS, ATF ect.) from doing what they want, or enforcing whatever law they decide to make against the American people. I am glad you are making these statements and oathsm good luck.
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Do the words ‘civil war’ mean anything to you knischansr? Will you be one that does what your told like a quiet little lamb while you clear the path for destruction to take over your comfy way of life and terrorize everything and everyone you love? Will you sit back and watch as other people fight for their liberties and wonder why they don’t just give up like you have? Everything that is worth anything is worth fighting for, even if that fight starts with saying ‘NO! I will not enslave my fellow citizens! Give me demotions and reprimands, take away whatever you can from me, put me behind bars, but when the war starts you better believe I wont be incarcerated any longer and in the end you’ll see that you’re fighting on the side that wants to destroy us all, and you’ll cross the line just like I have. Welcome to my right to fight for freedom.’
Two days ago when I first viewed this site, I posted my thoughts later on that night. (#410)
I was amazed by the next posting, (#441) I was called an illiterate amateur constitutional scholar with guns and a power trip. I was amazed at how you got all that out of my brief writting, you must be one of those types who can only attack because your foundation is baseless.
Lets see, am I a scholar, no. Am I graduate of constitutional law, no. So what am I to you. Are your afraid of a Father of two girls who has worked his ass off his whole life because I have earned the right to do so in a free nation. It s not about power you idiot, its about not having to live under a giant shadow. So if you want to ridicule me, fine. However first explain your point of view and why it is better than mine. Teach me why I am so wrong. If you have a foundation to back up these assertions that I am somehow off base, write it down.
My hats off to the author of posting (#412)
#in response to #451. If you are a citizen of this country you are a citizen untill you rescind it. All civil authorities are considered to be civilians. Even though recently they have a military varnish, don’t get them confused with haveing military authority. You are still a civilain and are “supposed” to be accountable to civil law. Military personell while I was taking boot and ait, were explicate at callin all civilians worms. Mostly to get into your head that we were under the Military Code of Conduct law, if you graduated from A.I.T.
My new mascot
And don’t forget if anyone has any bones to pick with anyone they are my bones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZmo9_2Rg4Y&feature=related
woops..to #488 being my new mascot forgot the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jM3OArE52U
We did take the oath and this organization is giving validity to what I’ve known for years; The fine people who have chosen to defend the Constitution now and in the past will be the ones to insure our freedoms remain intact and will do what it takes to uphold and defend the premise of that oath and the country if needed. I am proud to be one of those willing and able to still defend our Nation and the Ideals that make it great. God Bless America !
[...] guys, using their platform as the ultimate means of appraisal. Indeed, the constant recourse to the “Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey”- as if this stood outside of a broader social context, and their framing was without meaning- is [...]
Obama uses executive power of “emergency”
If your not sick make sure you wont get sick. Get your gas masks.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/24/obama-declares-hn-flu-national-emergency/
Martial LAW????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgMx2F41XD0&feature=related
Proverbs
FEAR NOT, PRAY FOR YOUR ENEMY – Jesus
And i want to correct that this nation is not and was not based on a democracy, it is a republic, but this is vital intel. Pay attention closely, know who your enemies are even though they seem like the good guys. I want you to question to yourself who here is really making policy?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gewp3aVWku4&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gewp3aVWku4&feature=related
Etc….Since when did millions of armed americans who have fought through wars and have served within military and civil authority positions who are armed with capabilities of military strength need military support to protect ones self and property..more or less an inocuous threat like a bug…get your masks out! Wasn’t local militia’s created for this purpose where neighbors banded together to protect blocks or acres from aggression. If anything we need the military for logistics to bring us secure provisions not to whipe our butts…oh that’s the governments concern. Lets make a provision in any and all bills passed through congress to read as such.
Unsistanable Practices
New astro turf measure in any and all congressional bills to be written untill passed.
This is a bottom up Green initiative amendment to the Health Care Bill. Congress is to recycle all paper used to print any and all bills. Dispensers will be coin operated $.10 ea. unit, and installed in all congressional stall lavratories. One ply, two squares will be issued, just as all Eagle Scouts are taught to conserve. One for after the use of the “Biddet” the other to dry. Any infraction of over use will be reported to the IGS (Internal Green Services).
word of the day “Budget”
word of the week “fudget”
National Threat!
Ron Paul has left the building
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSXQLUIc1Ak&feature=related
We do not turn a blind eye when percieve an INJUSTICE to be in our favor! We stand and say THIS IS WRONG and we MAKE IT RIGHT!
IF we believe in Democracy, Truth, and Justice than we must DEMAND OVERSIGHT, TRANSPARENCY and ACCOUNTABILITY.
IF we want Democracy than we must PRATICE DEMOCRACY! If we want Truth & Justice than we must stand up for it ALWAYS, not just when it suits us, even if it hurts us!
It WAS time for more than words when:
The December 12 ruling by the US Supreme Court handed the election to George Bush.
When the White House was behind the Treasonous Act of OUTING AMERICAS NUCLEAR NONPROLIFERATION SPY NETWORK, “in a time of war”!
When we discovered Americas Torture Policy!
When they started PISSING ON OUR CONSTITUTION AND IGNORING OUR LAWS!
It is ALWAYS time for more than words!
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they’re endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. Among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” — which is the ultimate good — “That to secure these rights governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”
“I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same”
IF YOU WANT TO PROTECT AMERICA DEMAND HER LAWS BE UPHELD, HER PEOPLE BE PROTECTED, THE PRINCIPLES OF HER DEMOCRACY PRATICED!
WE HAVE CORPORATIONS WHO LOOT AMERICA, AVOID PAYING TAXES, YET THEY USE OUR COURTS, ROADS, RESOURCES, LABOR, AND LEAVE BEHIND POLLUTION, AND ECONOMIC DISASTER!
WHAT ARE CORPORATIONS RESPONSIBILITIES TO AMERICA, DEMOCRACY, JUSTICE, FREEDOM, ENVIRONMENT AND HUMANITY?
I don’t know how any one in their right mind doesn’t find this “oath” and all the content on this website very insulting to our military, police, and veterans.
Are you people that paranoid and scared? I find it sickening that this website exists, let alone the thought that all you fear filled people think that our government is going to use our military and police to put US citizens in camps or commit genocide.
You people always talk about patriotism and supporting our troops no matter what. I don’t see this as anything less than a slap in the face to all these people who put their lives on the line and have sacrificed so much for our country.
If people knew the truth about why this website even exists, which is to exploit peoples fear and make money, they sure as hell wouldn’t be sending you any. Looks like your hosting is at godaddy.com whats that cost? about $10 a month? I wonder what you do with all that money you shamelessly beg for…
Poor stupid people and shame on you Rhodes for adding more trash to the pile of garbage we now call the internet.
Ben, you are a dissapontment. Maybe you need to read the document that you swore an oath to uphold. Pay particular attention to section that states that any laws enacted that go contrary to these acts are immediately null and void. The lawfull authority is the constitution, not a man. And last I heard, the president is Commander-and-Chief in times of war or under war powers situations. We are in neither. We have not filed a declaration of war in MANY years. Again, the orders that are comming down are therefore illegal and therefore null and void.
Dear Craig,
Gaelic: carraig=rock
The boy’s name Craig \c-
raig\ is pronounced krayg. It is of Scottish and Gaelic origin, and its meaning is “rock, rocky”. Comes from the word “crag”. Also originally a Scottish surname. The name is now popular in the English-speaking world.
Craig has 3 variant forms: Craigie, Craik and Kraig.
Baby names that sound like Craig are Graig and Creik.
Craig is a very common first name for men (#90 out of 1220) and also a very common last name for both men and women (#288 out of 88799). (1990 U.S. Census)
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If you truly are my kinsman. Ho ye! Ae moment please! Can A gie ye a haund? A’m tint. Hey! Mukker! Bless ye! Sairy! A dinna kin! Dia is Muire duit
Mob Rules
666
de⋅moc⋅ra⋅cy [di-mok-ruh-see] Show IPA
Use democracy in a Sentence
–noun, plural -cies.
1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their ELECTED AGENTS under a free electoral system.
2. a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.
4. political or social equality; democratic spirit.
5. the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.
Origin:
1525–35; < MF démocratie < LL dēmocratia < Gk dēmokratía popular government, equiv. to dēmo- demo- + -kratia -cracy
Citizens rule
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p.s where is the mention of: The united states for America?
re⋅pub⋅lic [ri-puhb-lik] Show IPA
–noun
1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the BODY of the CiTIZENS entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
3. a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.
4. (initial capital letter) any of the five periods of republican government in France. Compare First Republic, Second Republic, Third Republic, Fourth Republic, Fifth Republic.
5. (initial capital letter, italics) a philosophical dialogue (4th century b.c.) by Plato dealing with the composition and structure of the ideal state.
Origin:
1595–1605; < F république, MF < L rēs pūblica, equiv. to rēs thing, entity + pūblica public
We were supposed to be the latter. A democratic republic……not a democracy. If you research both you will find the difference. Even though these definitions are a little vague(or seem to be) there is a major difference. They forget that Rome was once and from my history was supposed to be a republic#1. If it weren't for the emperor.
It sounds Craig, like your taking a page out of a book saying that it's the corporations fault when your missing the root of the problem, that is congress. If you truly were concerned with humanity stand with us and debunk that illegal entity that is our current rewritten constitution making the District of Columbia the premire corporation. Then you truly can be soveriegn. Do you own them or do they own you and yours. That is the question you need to ask yourself. when you die or when others who have died in your family are they're worth past to the beneficiary without taxation? Ask yourself whether the tax is justified? Why would someone toil their whold lives paying tax's which by the way are also illegal….example…incometax…to be taxed by their net worth at death proir to giving it to their children. It's just a system that keeps us in slavery. could i help you in your time of need if i was concerned with the government who's idea's are to sit and relegate their authority over me. Who benefits? Where is the creation and invention and hard work to benefit mankind if those who rule over me feel entitled….no one wins.
You keep going backwards towards thinking of when people were awakening to the horrors of government and the unjust lie that's bound all of us. were you taught to hate one man and justify your feelings for another who's done nothing? The constitution was being PISSED ON SINCE 1871. Entertain me and watch and read this. You'll understand that we've been living the lie. I pray.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVsMUpPgdT0
If they handed the presidency to one what makes you so sure they didn't do it for the other? Because it's one that you approve of or accept? There was much disdain for Bush, Clinton, Nixon, Carter, what recourse does one have once one is in power…believe me the list goes on and on. We all pay the price.
I't been time for more than words since 1871…who is capable when they tear us apart? Race, denomination, height, weight, location, color, sex, age, shoe size it goes on and on and on every wich way but loose@! right? thEy count on us fighting eachother to never listening to either one or the other. Did you have any recourse for the_OUTING AMERICAS NUCLEAR NONPROLIFERATION SPY NETWORK…..is it the truth or another ploy to tear us apart? were you there? Does it cause us to have enemies? THAT IS THEIR PLOY….DIVID CONCQUER. An old Gaelic word is, deatach=smoke, that looks like detach. Is this a coincidence? Saol fada chugat Sla/inte chugat
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AMERICA IS UNDER ATTACK BY FINANCIAL TERRORISTS?
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The ECONOMIC DISASTER IS NO MISTAKE! IT’S NO ACCIDENT! They are directly manipulating your life now! LOOK at your Property Values!
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS loosing their homes, going bankrupt, and too embarrased to fight back! Corporations are making $billions and investing it into forign countries, Forign Banks, using offshore addresses and other loopholes to EVADE TAXES, they BETRAY AMERICA EVERY DAY by OURSOURCING JOBS.
We have 50 Million Americans don’t have health care? 45,000 die each year because they don’t have Healthcare, 150,000 die because of medical mistakes and they want to take away your right to sue! what is YOUR life worth? your childs life? WTF has America come to?
NEXT the price of food will skyrocket and you will wish you bought beans & rice instead of guns & bullets!
THIS IS HOW YOU CONQURE AMERICA! Divide it’s people into left & right, Rich & Poor, Black & White, then you bankrupt it and you can make it’s people do what you want!
Remember DIVIDED WE FALL!
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE TREASON
Predicting Worse Ahead from America’s Economic Crisis http://www.infowars.com/predicting-worse-ahead-from-americas-economic-crisis/#
Financial Crisis Called Top Security Threat to U.S.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/12/AR2009021202365.html
http://projectcensored.org
Something I dug up:
“Capital must protect itself in every possible manner by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages must be foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through a process of law, the common people lose their homes they will become more docile and more easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of government, applied by a central power of wealth under control of leading financiers. This truth is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of Capital to govern the world. By dividing the voters through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished.”
– US Bankers Magazine, Aug 25, 1924
we must fix this.
I am one of the fortunate.
I was born into this world with TWO of the greatest gifts one can receive.
Free Will
American Citizenship.
Middle Class upbringing.
Born into the USMC as an 03 on July 15th 1976 MCRDSD
Platoon 1042.
My journey began.
Lessons learned hard, mistakes paid for in blood. The meaning of Brotherhood and Duty shown to me by men from all walks of life, answering a common call. The shared friendship and the pain shared for friends no longer here, their memory serving to remind. Times of Peace. Times of War. I’ve stood in front of the American Flag, with weapon in hand, defying those that mean Her and Her People harm.
As an ol’ Grunt, I can feel a certain rumbling within the ground I so dearly love. One I have experienced before and know all to well.
And yes, America. I will stay true to my Oath and Bond to the greatest documents written by Freedom Loving Men, The Constitution and Bill of Rights. I will stand at the ready, armed and dedicated to defend all for that which you provide.
Fear not America, for though the Enemy has established a foothold within our borders due to lack of foresight by our leaders, We the People shall prevail. And may God have mercy on our leaders and Politicians if they try to enslave, for I will not.
I’ll die a Vikings death, weapon in hand, before I go quietly into a cage.
H. M.
SOL
You know that it is a small percentage right now and hopefully growing that will be on the side of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. It will be like our founding fathers opposing the British all over again! The 2nd Revolutionary War is about to begin. All it will take is a false flag event or financial colapse or something else that will force martial law upon us. When it happens, it will be the bloodiest War to ever be fought on this Earth. The American Patriot will not give up til dead and the brain dead globalist army will fight like a dumb animal til dead. Unfortuantely, most of those brain dead globalist soldiers will be former US citizens. The day they shoot at their first Patriot defending the US Constitution makes them enemy of the United States Of America. As soon as the first soldier shoots at a Patriot defending the US Constitution, Every officer and government official supporting that shot is enemy of the United States of America. They may have already shot that first shot or supported that first shot and they may already be guilty of treason. When that war starts, then it will be official, the now US Government will no longer be the US Government. They will be the Globalist Government and the real US Government will be those defending the US Constitution. It will not only be a Revolutionary War but also a Civil War all in one. Every US Citizen right now needs to make a decision. Are you a US Citizen or a Global Citizen of the United Nations? You need to pick a side, for there will be no in between.
TAKE AN OATH TO TAKE AMERICA BACK FROM THE CORRUPT CORPORATE CRIMINALS
TAKE AN OATH TO DEMAND CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR TAXES!
TAXES ARE THE PRICE WE PAY TO SUPPORT DEMOCRACY!
IF YOU LOVE AMERICA AND SUPPORT DEMOCRACY YOU WILL BE PROUD TO PAY YOUR TAXES, IF YOU DON’T PAY TAXES YOU DON’T SUPPORT AMERICA OR DEMOCRACY!
AMERICA IS LIKE A COUNTRY CLUB AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO PAY THEIR DUES IF WE WANT A GOOD CLUB!
you wouldn’t belong to a crappy run down countryclub where nobody paid their dues and everyone whined about the cost of membership!
KEEP THE OATH TO SUPPORT AND PROTECT FREEDOM, DEMOCRACY AND JUSTICE IN AMERICA
Why even offer feedback if you’re going to just censor anyone who tells the truth?. Im not at all surprised you deleted my last post and I didn’t even question why there wasn’t any negative feedback on your website. Typical of websites like this. Why dont you just tell these people the truth? All you’re in it for is the money. Thats the only reason this website exists.
im a 18 who just recently enlisted in the army in infantry (god save me) and if i am ever ordered to act against the American constitution or the American people. ill not follow that order and take out anyone who tries and enforce it i know what i swore to and it wasn’t against the USA it was to defend our country and what we stand for not what politicians stand for but the real American people the ones that sweat and bleed and are thankful for what this country has always tried to stand for
i pledage alliagnce to the flag of the untied states of america and to the repubilic for which it stands one nation under god one and indivisble
I have read many comments tonight from both sides and even the middle. All are interesting albeit for different reasons. From the ‘left’ I see name calling, condescension, demagoguery masquerading as fact but most of all a fatal desire to keep one’s head in the ‘up and locked position’ and remain ignorant so as not to see the trauma about to visit their little space. The middle have no opinions of their own but like to hear themselves speak so they use other’s to feel involved. Much repetition, very boring. From the right we get to enjoy the rantings of the denizons of Hayden Lake, ID and Elihu City?.. But also from the right we have the backbone of the nation. The pioneers, the explorers, the risk takers, the warriors, yes, even over exhuberent ones, and the Oath Takers. I have experienced all of these traits at some time in my 62 years, some good and some bad. Mostly good. After VietNam and a few other forays into the breach in the 70’s, and 80’s, I stayed under the radar to try and heal myself and stay protected behind my personal wall. I really didn’t care much for politics or politicians or what they were doing to the country. I was pretty much jaded and bitter about the past. However, since I emerged from my self imposed exile and sought help for my personal demons, I have become very alert and alive once again. Then came the election of a cabal of self describedd communists, friends of domestice terrorists, crooks from Chicago not seen since the likes of Capone and all ensconced in the WhiteHouse, aided and abbetted by the most emptyheaded liberal congress ever in my lifetime. For the first time I am afraid for the life of my country. We have lived through a number of scary times. Duck and Cover, Cuban Missiles, Jimmy Carter. But the unthinkable happened Nov 2nd ‘08. We took our eye off the ‘ball’ and crashed into the fantail. We have ‘chutes’ but are in the drink and it is cold and very dark. However, the ‘Ship of State’ is being manuevered by a diabolical crew of TinHorn Dictator Wannabes and things are looking bleak. Danny Ortega is laughing his ass off. My first inclination, not unlike alot of old warriors, was to eliminate the threat, perceived or real. Sadly, some vets have acted on their impulses and they and others have payed with their lives. I was worried enough to call my doc and ask for immediate sessions to deal with the impulses. That particular asshole called the SS and set wheels in motion and me into an old familiar feeling that I wasn’t going to survive the day. Luckily I have friends in the right places and we were able to get ahead of the boys in black SUV’s and everyone calmed down. Since then I have spent my time looking at things from a more clear vantage point. Of course I am still fearful, but I have the faith and the knowledge that this ‘gang’ will self destruct the same way the old USSR did, without a shot being fired. I know it took 70 yrs for that to happen, but they were dealing with an uneducated, besotten and fractured populace without a central core. We have our ‘piece of paper’, our Constitution, unlike any ever written. At least 50 million of us remember and revere that ‘piece’ of paper and the men who wrote it. The others probably don’t know about it or don’t care because they have never had to give anything but ‘lip’ to their parents and teachers. Well, 50 million is still a very big number, even when a trillion is bandied about like halloween candy. About time I got to the point eh? The point is that even as the big crime wave in DC is seemingly washing over us like last year’s Tsunami threatening to drown us all in debt and loss of sovereignty, we are survivors. Survivors will always tell you that they never gave up, called up their faith, whatever that may be, and kept clawing and scratching to kept moving forward. Since none of us want another war like the one between the states, (although we should be prepared with powder and ball), there is a very good alternative to stop this juggernaut. You all know the 10th amendment. It is our first and best line of defense. Some state governors have expressed threats to invoke it, but only half heartedly. They are politicians after all and are mainly interested in the federal dollar and re-election. One in particular was in a supreme position to change the landscape and halt the blatant raid on the treasury and assault on the ‘paper’, but alas, she quit her job before she could realize her true potential. People, “OATH KEEPERS”, quit shaking your fists at DC and the Pretenders. Shake them instead at the Governors of your respective states. March on your own statehouses. They are the ones with the power. They are the ones that can control ALL the taxes that go to DC, without which the congress and the, still, WhiteHouse (as opposed to code pinkhouse) can do nothing but holler like stuck pigs at the trough. Don’t feed them. Scream to the rafters for your governors to recall all the states’ representatives home for a good ole’ fashion thrashin’ behind the barn. I mean it would take a book as thick as ‘War and Peace’ to detail all the transgressions committed by politicians in the swampy city. It seems the world is upside down. Everything seems to be out of kilter as if the gyros have caged and we are in a death spiral. But then here comes ‘Sully’ and his crew there in the Hudson to say, “hey, we still have our hands on the controls, we ain’t lettin’ go”. Go to your statehouses, grab your chief executives(figuratively) by the lapels, shake him or her, slap ‘em upside the head(figuratively)if you have to, but get their attention. Demand that they invoke the tenth ammendment. Demand that the state legislatures pass laws to prohibit any companies located or doing business within the state from sending any collected taxes to DC, instead depositing those collected taxes into an escrow controlled only by the governor( easier to watch one than many). The respective states will then send to the federal government only those monies necessary for the defense of the country and the duties specified in the Constitution. Put the hammer down on the Boxers, Baucus’s? and other America haters working in DC while they are in their respective states getting their asses chewed and where they do not enjoy the protection afforded by their federal offices. POTUS only has as much power as the people give him. Take it away in the form of your taxes and he has nothing. Like all extortionists(and that is exactly what this Chicago mob is)take the money and you take their power. You have all seen the world make major changes overnight. It can happen that fast. Keep the faith. Huah? STAY ALERT, STAY ALIVE!!
I am thankful for OK, and as a Marine whose active duty ended in 1963, it is still very fresh in my mind and thoughts as I look back.
The future in this country looks bleak, but there are glimmers of light and truth in evidence, however….and Oath Keepers is one of the brightest.
I doubt that at this juncture, domestic violence may be avoidable. It may well take a violent overthrow of our existing government to return our country to its rightful owners…We The People…but those of us who took the oath, and those of us who both honor and keep that oath will prevail. We must.
Thomas Jefferson once said that “The tree of liberty must, from time to time, be fertilized by the blood of tyrants and patriots”. That time is near. God bless–and save–America.
JM, Kilo Battery, 4th Bn., 11th Matines, 1958-1963
ENOUGH with the fingerpointing, demagrogery, propaganda, silly rants about empty headed liberals. Please lets stop with the 4th grade level name calling and whineing, can we please talk about something of substance?
While we fight and argue over meaningless bullshit America is being Looted by Multinational Bankers, Corporations and Crooked politicians.
If you don’t believe Liberals Love their country as much as anyone you are being stupid and childish!
I am a Liberal and I am proud of it, I love my country and what it stands for! I want it to be strong and successful and I want our Democracy to be healthy and secure.
We are ALL Americans and we need to stand togather on the principles this country is founded on, we need to EDUCATE ourselves and each other. We need to be able to communicate honestly and we need to understand how to know who has credibility and who doesn’t.
I would like to suggest that EVERY AMERICAN Learn the Preamble to the Constitution by heart!
I see some very troubling things that Every American should be aware of yet I see Little or NONE of it on the “CORPORATE NEWS MONOPOLY”
Downtown Berkeley ‘Urban Shield’ Drill Draws Fire http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2008-09-25/article/31176?headline=Downtown-Berkeley-Urban-Shield-Drill-Draws-Fire
Operation Garden Plot
US Has been preparing to turn
America into a military dictatorship
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/Police%20State/garden_plot.htm
INVASION OF AMERICA: OPERATION URBAN WARROR
http://www.infowars.com/ouwmar9901.html
Operation FALCON – The USA is turning into a Police State
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=431
Free speech zones (also known as First Amendment Zones, Free speech cages, and Protest zones) are areas set aside in public places for political activists …
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone
If they can put liberal hippies in cages they can do it to YOU! you may think it’s funny when they put them damn pinko liberal hippies in “Free Speech Zones” but what do you think will happen when YOU stand up for YOUR rights? do you think they will reconize you as being a “Real Patriot”? lol
Democracy is under attack in America!
I live in South Africa;
but my great-grandfather was American, and I have been to the USA twice.
if America falls, the world falls.
a man does not get to choose his battles or war, he gets to choose right from wrong with the help of God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
the elite are not into satanism and the occult for no reason (please watch ‘Brotherhood of Darkness’ on Youtube)
the elite are into very very evil practises…
world war I was an inside job
world war II was an inside job
too long as sin been tolerated, and when a king/president is unrighteous, a land suffers….
protect your communities, get to know your neighbours, love your wife and family, do not vaccinate, eat healthy, turn the tv off, read the Bible, pray each morning, repent, be safe
I hope to come to the usa a third time in 2010;
take care and be safe all and eat from the Tree of Life
God bless
Steven
contactable on stevenbatman AT gmail.com
You fucking idiots. What country are you talking about? Christ for peace ociffers, and military muckity mucks…you all have a lot of time on your hands. Maybe a swift kick in the taint would snap you idiots out of it. BTW ACTIVE DUTY SMsgt (USAF) protecting and defending your rights to be jackasses.
AMMO@!
IYAYAS!!!
Forgive me AMMO BRETHREN for I have sinned..or sinded for the trailer park crowd. It’s:
IYAAYAS!!
Dear Craig,
Gaelic: carraig=rock
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If you truly are my kinsman. Ho ye! Ae moment please! Can A gie ye a haund? A’m tint. Hey! Mukker! Bless ye! Sairy! A dinna kin! Dia is Muire duit
Mob Rules
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de·moc·ra·cy [di-mok-ruh-see] Show IPA
Use democracy in a Sentence
–noun, plural -cies.
1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their ELECTED AGENTS under a free electoral system.
2. a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.
4. political or social equality; democratic spirit.
5. the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.
Origin:
1525–35; < MF démocratie < LL democratia < Gk demokratía popular government, equiv. to demo- demo- + -kratia -cracy
Citizens rule
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p.s where is the mention of: The united states for America?
re·pub·lic [ri-puhb-lik] Show IPA
–noun
1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the BODY of the CiTIZENS entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
3. a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.
4. (initial capital letter) any of the five periods of republican government in France. Compare First Republic, Second Republic, Third Republic, Fourth Republic, Fifth Republic.
5. (initial capital letter, italics) a philosophical dialogue (4th century b.c.) by Plato dealing with the composition and structure of the ideal state.
Origin:
1595–1605; < F république, MF < L res publica, equiv. to res thing, entity + publica public
We were supposed to be the latter. A democratic republic……not a democracy. If you research both you will find the difference. Even though these definitions are a little vague(or seem to be) there is a major difference. They forget that Rome was once and from my history was supposed to be a republic#1. If it weren't for the emperor.
It sounds Craig, like your taking a page out of a book saying that it's the corporations fault when your missing the root of the problem, that is congress. If you truly were concerned with humanity stand with us and debunk that illegal entity that is our current rewritten constitution making the District of Columbia the premire corporation. Then you truly can be soveriegn. Do you own them or do they own you and yours. That is the question you need to ask yourself. when you die or when others who have died in your family are they're worth past to the beneficiary without taxation? Ask yourself whether the tax is justified? Why would someone toil their whold lives paying tax's which by the way are also illegal….example…incometax…to be taxed by their net worth at death proir to giving it to their children. It's just a system that keeps us in slavery. could i help you in your time of need if i was concerned with the government who's idea's are to sit and relegate their authority over me. Who benefits? Where is the creation and invention and hard work to benefit mankind if those who rule over me feel entitled….no one wins.
You keep going backwards towards thinking of when people were awakening to the horrors of government and the unjust lie that's bound all of us. were you taught to hate one man and justify your feelings for another who's done nothing? The constitution was being PISSED ON SINCE 1871. Entertain me and watch and read this. You'll understand that we've been living the lie. I pray.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVsMUpPgdT0
If they handed the presidency to one what makes you so sure they didn't do it for the other? Because it's one that you approve of or accept? There was much disdain for Bush, Clinton, Nixon, Carter, what recourse does one have once one is in power…believe me the list goes on and on. We all pay the price.
I't been time for more than words since 1871…who is capable when they tear us apart? Race, denomination, height, weight, location, color, sex, age, shoe size it goes on and on and on every wich way but loose@! right? thEy count on us fighting eachother to never listening to either one or the other. Did you have any recourse for the_OUTING AMERICAS NUCLEAR NONPROLIFERATION SPY NETWORK…..is it the truth or another ploy to tear us apart? were you there? Does it cause us to have enemies? THAT IS THEIR PLOY….DIVID CONCQUER. An old Gaelic word is, deatach=smoke, that looks like detach. Is this a coincidence? Saol fada chugat Sla/inte chugat
swine flue propoganda circ. 1976
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EilAqEZHN48&feature=related
Keak Da Sneak-That Go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWgRGHvJ8b8
Swine Flue Pandemic scare! 1976. More hoopla?
news reports circ. 1976
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD6UyEP3qEg&NR=1
2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUZfAaXok3E&feature=related
Blow the whistle!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUVfDvIP2EQ&feature=related
Congressman Ron Paul M.D.
Take a doctors veiw on it, especially one who’s paying attention.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvCVLkBKq1I&feature=related
(NaturalNews) As the anticipated July release date for Baxter’s A/H1N1 flu pandemic vaccine approaches, an Austrian investigative journalist is warning the world that the greatest crime in the history of humanity is underway. Jane Burgermeister has recently filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations (UN), and several of the highest ranking government and corporate officials concerning bioterrorism and attempts to commit mass murder. She has also prepared an injunction against forced vaccination which is being filed in America. These actions follow her charges filed in April against Baxter AG and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology of Austria for producing contaminated bird flu vaccine, alleging this was a deliberate act to cause and profit from a pandemic.
Summary of claims and allegations filed with FBI in Austria on June 10, 2009
In her charges, Burgermeister presents evidence of acts of bioterrorism that is in violation of U.S. law by a group operating within the U.S. under the direction of international bankers who control the Federal Reserve, as well as WHO, UN and NATO. This bioterrorism is for the purpose of carrying out a mass genocide against the U.S. population by use of a genetically engineered flu pandemic virus with the intent of causing death. This group has annexed high government offices in the U.S.
Specifically, evidence is presented that the defendants, Barack Obama, President of the U.S, David Nabarro, UN System Coordinator for Influenza, Margaret Chan, Director-General of WHO, Kathleen Sibelius, Secretary of Department of Health and Human Services, Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Department of Homeland Security, David de Rotschild, banker, David Rockefeller, banker, George Soros, banker, Werner Faymann, Chancellor of Austria, and Alois Stoger, Austrian Health Minister, among others, are part of this international corporate criminal syndicate which has developed, produced, stockpiled and employed biological weapons to eliminate the population of the U.S. and other countries for financial and political gain.
The charges contend that these defendants conspired with each other and others to devise, fund and participate in the final phase of the implementation of a covert international bioweapons program involving the pharmaceutical companies Baxter and Novartis. They did this by bioengineering and then releasing lethal biological agents, specifically the “bird flu” virus and the “swine flu virus” in order to have a pretext to implement a forced mass vaccination program which would be the means of administering a toxic biological agent to cause death and injury to the people of the U.S. This action is in direct violation of the Biological Weapons Anti-terrorism Act.
Burgermeister’s charges include evidence that Baxter AG, Austrian subsidiary of Baxter International, deliberately sent out 72 kilos of live bird flu virus, supplied by the WHO in the winter of 2009 to 16 laboratories in four counties. She claims this evidence offers clear proof that the pharmaceutical companies and international government agencies themselves are actively engaged in producing, developing, manufacturing and distributing biological agents classified as the most deadly bioweapons on earth in order to trigger a pandemic and cause mass death.
In her April charges, she noted that Baxter’s lab in Austria, one of the supposedly most secure biosecurity labs in the world, did not adhere to the most basic and essential steps to keep 72 kilos of a pathogen classified as a bioweapon secure and separate from all other substances under stringent biosecurity level regulations, but it allowed it to be mixed with the ordinary human flu virus and sent from its facilities in Orth in the Donau.
In February, when a staff member at BioTest in the Czech Republic tested the material meant for candidate vaccines on ferrets, the ferrets died. This incident was not followed up by any investigation from the WHO, EU, or Austrian health authorities. There was no investigation of the content of the virus material, and there is no data on the genetic sequence of the virus released.
In answer to parliamentary questions on May 20th, the Austrian Health Minister, Alois Stoger, revealed that the incident had been handled not as a biosecurity lapse, as it should have been, but as an offence against the veterinary code. A veterinary doctor was sent to the lab for a brief inspection.
Burgermeister’s dossier reveals that the release of the virus was to be an essential step for triggering a pandemic that would allow the WHO to declare a Level 6 Pandemic. She lists the laws and decrees that would allow the UN and WHO to take over the United States in the event of pandemic. In addition, legislation requiring compliance with mandatory vaccinations would be put into force in the U.S. under conditions of pandemic declaration.
She charges that the entire “swine flu” pandemic business is premised on a massive lie that there is no natural virus out there that poses a threat to the population. She presents evidence leading to the belief that the bird flu and swine flu viruses have, in fact, been bioengineered in laboratories using funding supplied by the WHO and other government agencies, among others. This “swine flu” is a hybrid of part swine flu, part human flu and part bird flu, something that can only come from laboratories according to many experts.
WHO’s claim that this “swine flu” is spreading and a pandemic must be declared ignores the fundamental causes. The viruses that were released were created and released with the help of WHO, and WHO is overwhelmingly responsible for the pandemic in the first place. In addition, the symptoms of the supposed “swine flu” are indistinguishable from regular flu or from the common cold. The “swine flu” does not cause death anymore often than the regular flu causes death.
Burgermeister notes that the figures for deaths reported for the “swine flu” are inconsistent and there is no clarity as to how the number of “deaths” has been documented.
There is no pandemic potential unless mass vaccinations are carried out to weaponize the flu under the guise of protecting the population. There are reasonable grounds for believing that the mandatory vaccines will be purposely contaminated with diseases that are specifically designed to cause death.
Reference is made to a licensed Novartis bird flu vaccine that killed 21 homeless people in Poland in the summer of 2008 and had as its “primary outcome measure” an “adverse events rate”, thereby meeting the U.S. government’s own definition of a bioweapon (a biological agent designed to cause an adverse events rate, i.e death or injury) with a delivery system (injection).
She alleges that the same complex of international pharmaceutical companies and international government agencies that have developed and released pandemic material have positioned themselves to profit from triggering the pandemic with contracts to supply vaccines. Media controlled by the group that is engineering the “swine flu” agenda is spreading misinformation to lull the people of the U.S. into taking the dangerous vaccine.
The people of the U.S. will suffer substantial and irreparable harm and injury if they are forced to take this unproven vaccine without their consent in accordance with the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, National Emergency Act, National Security Presidential Directive/NSPD 51, Homeland Security Presidential Directive/HSPD-20, and the International Partnership on Avian and Pandemic Influenza.
In the U.S. since 2008, Burgermeister charges that those named in her allegations have implemented new and/or accelerated the implementation of laws and regulations designed to strip the citizens of the U.S. of their lawful constitutional rights to refuse an injection. These people have created or allowed provisions to remain in place that make it a criminal act to refuse to take an injection against pandemic viruses. They have imposed other excessive and cruel penalties such as imprisonment and/or quarantine in FEMA camps while barring the citizens of the U.S. from claiming compensation from injury or death from the forced injections. This is in violation of the laws governing federal corruption and the abuse of office as well as of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Through these actions, the named defendants have laid the groundwork for mass genocide.
Using the “swine flu” as a pretext, the defendants have preplanned the mass murder of the U.S. population by means of forced vaccination. They have installed an extensive network of FEMA concentration camps and identified mass grave sites, and they have been involved in devising and implementing a scheme to hand power over the U.S. to an international crime syndicate that uses the UN and WHO as a front for illegal racketeering influenced organized crime activities, in violation of the laws that govern treason.
She further charges that the complex of pharmaceutical companies consisting of Baxter, Novartis and Sanofi Aventis are part of a foreign-based dual purpose bioweapons program, financed by this international criminal syndicate and designed to implement mass murder to reduce the world’s population by more than 5 billion people in the next ten years. Their plan is to spread terror to justify forcing people to give up their rights, and to force mass quarantine in FEMA camps. The houses, companies and farms and lands of those who are killed will be up for grabs by this syndicate.
By eliminating the population of North America, the international elite gain access to the region’s natural resources such as water and undeveloped oil lands. And by eliminating the U.S. and its democratic constitution by subsuming it under a North American Union, the international crime group will have total control over North America.
Highlights from the complete dossier
The complete dossier of the June 10th action is a 69 page document presenting evidence to substantiate all charges. This includes:
Factual background that delineates time lines and facts that establish probable cause, UN and WHO definitions and roles, and history and incidents from the April, 2009 “swine flu” outbreak.
Evidence the “swine flu” vaccines are defined as bioweapons as delineates in government agencies and regulations classifying and restricting vaccines, and the fear of foreign countries that “swine flu” vaccines will be used for biological warfare.
Scientific evidence the “swine flu” virus is an artificial (genetic) virus.
Scientific evidence the “swine flu” was bioengineered to resemble the Spanish flu virus of 1918 including quotes from Swine Flu 2009 is Weaponized 1918 Spanish Flu by A. True Ott, Ph.D., N.D., and a Science Magazine report from Dr. Jeffrey Taubenberger et.al.
The genome sequence of the “swine flu”
Evidence of the deliberate release of the “swine flu” in Mexico
Evidence as to the involvement of President Obama that delineates his trip to Mexico which coincided with the recent “swine flu” outbreak and the death of several officials involved in his trip. Contention is made that the President was never tested for “swine flu” because he had been previously vaccinated.
Evidence as to the role of Baxter and WHO in producing and releasing pandemic virus material in Austria includes a statement from a Baxter official stating the accidentally distributed H5N1 in the Czech Republic was received from a WHO reference center. This includes delineation of evidence and allegations from Burgermeister’s charges filed in April in Austria that are currently under investigation.
Evidence Baxter is an element in a covert bioweapons network
Evidence Baxter has deliberately contaminated vaccine material.
Evidence Novartis is using vaccines as bioweapons
Evidence as to WHO’s role in the bioweapons program
Evidence as to WHO’s manipulation of disease data in order to justify declaring a Pandemic Level 6 in order to seize control of the USA.
Evidence as to the FDA’s role in covering up the bioweapons program
Evidence as to Canada’s National Microbiology Lab’s role in the bioweapons program.
Evidence of the involvement of scientists working for the UK’s NIBSC, and the CDC in engineering the “swine flu”.
Evidence vaccinations caused the Spanish killer flu of 1918 including belief of Dr. Jerry Tennant that the widespread use of aspirin during the winter that followed the end of World War I could have been a key factor contributing to the earlier pandemic by suppressing the immune system and lowering body temperatures, allowing the flu virus to multiply. Tamiflu and Relenza also lower body temperatures, and therefore can also be expected to contribute to the spread of a pandemic.
Evidence as to manipulation of the legal framework to allow mass murder with impunity.
Constitutional issues: the legality vs. illegality of jeopardizing the life, health and public good by mass vaccinations.
The issue of immunity and compensation as evidence of intent to commit a crime.
Evidence as to the existence of an international corporate crime syndicate.
Evidence of the existence of the “Illuminati”.
Evidence as to the depopulation agenda of the Illuminati/Bilderbergs and their involvement in the engineering and release of the artificial “swine flu” virus.
Evidence that weap